Can't stand this attitude re prison attacks

[BySnappyUmberFish]

After the murder of Ian Watkins and the assault and (very possible) death of Ian Huntley, social media and news articles have been flooded with comments such as 'Give that man a medal!!' 'Not all heroes wear capes!!'.
These people seem to forget that the killers are in prison for as equally heinous and despicable crimes as the aforementioned two. They have also most probably not attacked them over what they did, but over debts, drugs or just to gain some notoriety.

I am fed up of hearing comments like this.

People think in a very linear way now and are so anxious to parade their righteousness. It's not very bright.

A man was bludgeoned over the head while in prison - good he was a child killer he deserved it. He is also a person and the incident raises serious questions about security in prisons and to staff but no matter.

I am stuck in Dubai and frightened - you should not have gone there in the first place, I would never do that, I care too much about human rights.

It's mad.

Who said he thought he was better.
There was a queue of people who wanted to get at Huntley. He'd stopped eating meals because he was scared. Preferring to eat canteen food.
He was killed because people always want to get at people high profile like that.
He had nothing to loose in his eyes as he's in for life anyway.
Best thing if you want to avoid all this is not to go into prison. It's always a choice.

I dont think love cuts off so easily and I think it must be very possible to still love your family member while hating what they did and being relieved they are in prison. I know nothing about him really, but saw a picture of a woman who I felt sorry for.

I agree with this. It’s a case of one psychopath attacking another and the only people I feel any empathy for are the families of the victims they murdered.

Certainly the family of the 3 people the attacker killed (one of them a pregnant woman he raped as well) really didn’t deserve to have to hear about the online praise he received for committing yet another violent attack. (Even if the victim happens to be Huntley.)

I think this is really well put and makes sense.

Totally OP. It’s like people think there are good prisoners and bad prisoners whereas in reality they’re all there for the same reasons

My thought is how horrible this must be for Holly and Jessica's parents, having his name dragged all through the news again.

I thought the Spoon/Brain Episode was proved to be a lie ?

If they’d done what he had, I wouldn’t care!

I would rather the money went on keeping the streets safer for women.

Tbf even his mother had a small.part of her that hopes he doesn't make it.

Personally I don't want these people to die, they should live through it. But I won't be upset if they do.

Not sure on that but would hope so.

I honestly can’t say I care. Or at least, there are things I care about much more than these monsters. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

The two of those men are pure EVIL. Two wrongs don’t make a right but I can’t summon the will to think the world would be better with them in it.

How do you feel about the possibile life long trauma witnessing the attack/the injuries could have caused in the Staff? Or the prisoners in for a lot less? That iron bar could have been easily used on any staff member, that can spark anxiety.
@70isaLimitNotaTarget Robert has been moved. Although his supporters say he's been set up to fail, being put on a busy wing, in his 70s, after solitary. He isn't liking it.

It cuts off for some but not for others.
Remember the disgusting pair who killed Daniel Pelka.
They both died in prison. None of their relatives came forward to claim their bodies or possessions when they died.
They weren't interested. Some things are just too disgusting.

I’m not saying it’s ok, but I’m also saying I couldn’t be upset that it’s happened to him! I feel for the innocent people.

They know very well that the attackers are not going to be released. Its just a reaction to the fact that some nasty scrote has been attacked or killed, and people sre happy about it, even if the attacker is also a nasty scrote.
People are just happy that Huntley probably wont make it. Don't read anything else into it

@sprigatito Yes cannot bear these ‘dim’ types. Thank goodness for people like yourself and the paternalistic policies the government enforces on these thickets to keep them in line.…oh how there is nothing less palatable than a sanctimonious liberal denouncing the views of those who should know better than to believe the podium is available for anyone other than those spouting liberal rhetoric!

Maybe you should spend less time proselytising, and insulting those deemed lesser than your educated self. People like you don’t seem to be able to grasp that there are those in society that exist in the grey - not dim and ‘bloodthirsty’ but hold views which don’t align with yours. Let that thought sink in and terrify you.

FWIW couldn’t give a damn what happens to the heinous Huntley.

I didnt know that little Daniels killers are both dead. Im glad though. 2 pieces of shit that can never hurt anyone else

This isn't something that MN users can solve. It's up to the prison service to work all this out and the government.
Alot of the older more experienced prison officers have left.
Prisons are short staffed. Alot of younger staff are in now.
There are problems, but out of our hands to solve.
You'll never stop prison violence. It's a hostile place, and nobody wants to be there. They all stupidly thought they could get away with what they did.
You have got all the dregs if society all together as well.

Hats off to anyone who does work there. Must be one of the most depressing jobs out, working with the worst in society every day .

Yes she killed herself and he had a heart attack.

Some people are equally unhappy, they want him to survive to be beaten again. It's a mixture of views.

No sympathy for Watkins and Huntley, but you cannot have mob justice in prisons.

I’m not congratulating those who have killed Ian Watkins and left Ian Huntley for dead but I’m glad they felt at least an ounce of fear as they are being attacked. Same with Wayne Cousins now saying he is living in fear that he will be next. All I can think is good if that makes me a bad person or apparently someone who can’t have more than one thought in my head then so be it.

Also i have not give their families a single thought those go to their poor innocent victims and their families.

There's a hierarchy in prisons and paedophiles are at the bottom of the heap.