Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

[Dirtydianaoh]

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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There is no excuse for starving innocent people and stopping all aid coming through to them.

It’s literally there in the Geneva Convention that you can stop aid it’s enshrined in International Law. If you want aid to come through, it’s allowed to because of the Geneva Convention. But the drafters realised sometimes this right had to be curtailed and therefore in certain circumstances it can be. You can’t have one without the other.

As I keep saying no one here is in a position to decide whether stopping the aid was because of security concerns (allowed) or with the intention to starve the population (not allowed). This will undoubtedly be investigated by the relevant international courts

This thread has been completely derailed from the off
This thread is surposed to be about young children killed in a school bombing

Have people no empathy to allow a single thread to talk about the loss of young lives at the school

Shame

I think it’s the people saying it was an Iranian bomb with no proof that almost immediately derailed the thread to be honest . A thread about such an event is never going to be not controversial.

Not a 'pathetic' excuse. Supply lorries may well have had ammunition in them.

I think everyone thinks the loss of life, especially children in war is terrible. But in a war people have different allegiances, talking about deaths in an ongoing war will always bring about political discussion.

Sadly almost every thread gets derailed at some point.

And it is precisely this situation the caveat to the Geneva convention is meant to cover.

Tell that to all the men and women and children who starved to death. That there was literally no safe way of getting supplies to them when they were blockaded off by Isreal . Sorry but I just don’t believe that

I don't understand this insistence with people wanting to call it "Israel's war".

Is it because you want to blame Israel more than the US?

The US themselves are insistent that it is a joint war and they were clearly preparing to go to war with Iran in the months leading up to it. Not to mention that Trump's personality means that he does what he wants to do.

If the US had triggered the first attack & then Israel joined in that same day, would you then call it the US's war?

I agree it’s very unclear it this point so no one can say it’s an Iranian, US or Israeli missile. Certainly no one can say whether it was intentional or accidental, although I think most seem to agree based on critical thinking it’s unlikely the killing of young girls as the aim was the aim by anyone

And now there is research that it was the US there’s been almost no comment at all
Surprise surprise

It isn't just individual soldiers, this is standard operating procedure, rape and sexual violence is being explicitly ordered and encouraged by top military and civilian leadership. It's disgusting to try and downplay the systematic use of sexual violence against a population as just the odd rogue soldier.

Specific forms of sexual and gender-based violence – such as forced public stripping and nudity, sexual harassment including threats of rape, as well as sexual assault – comprise part of the Israeli Security Forces’ standard operating procedures toward Palestinians.
Other forms of sexual and gender-based violence, including rape and violence to the genitals, were committed either under explicit orders or with implicit encouragement by Israel’s top civilian and military leadership, the report said.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/report-of-commisison-of-inquiry-opt-13march2025/

It got derailed by people saying it was an Israeli/US/Iranian bomb before any of know the truth.

Multiple threads get derailed by people using the genocide word when they could just say possible genocide and avoid all the subsequent discussion of is it/isn't it genocide but they never learn.

The first page is all people claiming it was or was probably Iranian . Regardless a thread like this isn’t going to be just full of people saying thoughts and prayers or whatever it’s always going to start some sort of heated discussion

And that needs to be investigated more fully. Although the UN have a poor record in similar situations (see Bosnia).

I note that it states the “only conclusion” of such attacks is that they were state sanctioned - clearly this is not the case and other explanations are available, including rogue people in the Israel government.

The UN have been accused of political bias against Israel on several points re Gaza. UN Watch ( a Geneva based NGO which monitors the actions of the UN) has long pointed out the anti semitism in the UN (long proceeding the recent Gaza situation).

As far as I’m aware this has not been through the courts

OP felt they knew it wasn't Iranian and used Tiktok as proof.

A few people agreed and someone said, Nothing will happen to the two countries who did this.

So then people who care about facts had to point out that we didn't actually know which country had caused it. Then some gave their opinion that it could have been or probably was Iranian.

It’s all just fucking depressing. But tik tok for news Op? Seriously?

In other words 'we don't believe you'. I think Palestinians are used to it by now but it's still really grim to see the denial of systematic sexual violence on a website that is majority female.

It's not like they can use the UN or any humanitarian organisations for proof is it? The UN, the red cross, Drs without borders, Amnesty, B'Tselem, save the children, the world courts, you name it and it's been smeared as anti Israel or antisemitic. People would rather believe a government being ran by a man with warrants out for his arrest for war crimes and crimes against humanity that actually the Israeli government and the IDF are innocent and it's everyone else who is the problem. These are the times we live in.

Yeah but it wasn't. The original post wasn't about how sad and tragic it was. Nope, it placed blame and even intent without proof.

And then the israel haters piled on with 'oh israel loves killing children' usual bs

Hence derailment. To whcih you also contributed btw

But indeed regardless of provenance (or numbers) still a tragedy and my heart goes out to those families

Yeah, how dare Jews 'harp on' about what happened 80 years ago!

Time to move on, victim card has expired! Stop talking about that pesky actual real genocide!

Exactly this. Sickening.

Shame on anyone who uses what happened to their forebears 80 years ago as "justification" for war crimes now

No, it says it needs to investigated, my post clearly states this, It needs proving in a court of law,

The source used here, the UN have previously been criticised by the UN watch fog for anti semitism and that needs to be considered alongside the report.

if the accusations are proved in a court of law the court will rightly choose what happens as a consequence.

Do you generally have an issue with legal due process.