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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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YiddlySquat · 04/03/2026 23:33

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 23:28

How many lives has the Irainian regime killed since 1979?

Or Persian lives don't seem to matter as they don't look like ..........

Or Jewish lives

If sick of seeing, whenever anyone wants to talk about the Hamas atrocities, people say “But but what about Israel”

YiddlySquat · 04/03/2026 23:35

inamarina · 04/03/2026 18:50

Israel is much worse than Hamas? Heard it all now 🙄

Indeed

Imagine being so dense as to believe the word of a Jew hating murderous terrorist organisation known for strangling babies and raping women - and being in their side

GaIadriel · 04/03/2026 23:44

If it was a US bomb it would've almost certainly have been a mistake. A lot of the Iranian public want the current regime overthrown. And a regime like the Iranian government really aren't the sort of people you want to have nuclear armaments.

StandingSideBySide · 04/03/2026 23:51

WearyAuldWumman · 04/03/2026 23:21

So...the Americans haven't learned - it's the same as happened when Serbia was bombed: they used outdated information. For example, the Admiralty building that they hit in Šabac dated from the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Blimey
on that subject

I can’t open the document by the NYtimes ( behind a paywall)
but this is a basic rundown of its contents from Google

‘ Deeply flawed intelligence and outdated targeting information have led to significant civilian casualties in U.S. bombing campaigns, contradicting the narrative of precise, all-seeing drone warfare
. Confidential Pentagon records show that rushed,, imprecise targeting has resulted in thousands of civilian deaths, including children, with minimal accountability.
The New York Times
Key Findings on US Bombing Intelligence

  • Outdated Information: Recent analysis suggests airstrikes, such as one in Iran, may have hit civilian infrastructure (e.g., schools) due to the use of outdated targeting data.
  • Systemic Failures: Assessments revealed patterns of failure, where despite having a codified system, the Pentagon often ignored or failed to learn from mistakes.
  • Lack of Accountability:Investigations into these incidents rarely resulted in findings of wrongdoing, discipline, or compensation for survivors.
  • The New York Times +1
These reports highlight a significant gap between the intended precision of modern military technology and the actual, often tragic, outcomes on the ground caused by poor intelligence. The New York Times +1

Hidden Pentagon Records Reveal Patterns of Failure in Deadly Airstrikes
18 Dec 2021 — The trove of documents — the military's own confidential assessments of more than 1,300 reports of civilian casualties, obtained by The New York Times — lays ba...

The New York Times’

Mistakes through poor intelligence
!!

StandingSideBySide · 04/03/2026 23:52

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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls
GaIadriel · 04/03/2026 23:54

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 17:31

they went overboard . Starving innocent people and stopping aid trucks coming in. Take a listen to yourself . These are human beings you are talking about. Seriously .

Israel have always responded with twice the ferocity. Hamas would've known the outcome of their actions. They didn't care because religious extremists generally don't. Probs just thinking of the 72 virgins they'll get in the afterlife.

OneFunBrickNewt · 05/03/2026 00:09

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 23:28

How many lives has the Irainian regime killed since 1979?

Or Persian lives don't seem to matter as they don't look like ..........

Whataboutery.
Iranian regime is vile.
Israel committed genocide in Gaza.
Hamas are terrorists.
All can be true at the same time.

So many unsophisticated posters on mumsnet, can't understand that the Middle East isn't black and white.

GaIadriel · 05/03/2026 00:11

OneFunBrickNewt · 05/03/2026 00:09

Whataboutery.
Iranian regime is vile.
Israel committed genocide in Gaza.
Hamas are terrorists.
All can be true at the same time.

So many unsophisticated posters on mumsnet, can't understand that the Middle East isn't black and white.

Exactly. And I doubt either side really have any inclination to stop unless they have to.

Bertiebiscuit · 05/03/2026 00:18

An Iranian regime that has happily killed many Iranian girls for not wearing the "right" coverings or daring to speak against the tyrants - hard to stomach any hand wringing from them on this. And their claims that US or Israel are to blame are deeply suspicious.

timeserved · 05/03/2026 00:46

Screamingabdabz · 04/03/2026 07:36

Blame a regime that uses children as human shields by putting a school next to a military base. They don’t care about women and children. Just look at their culture - females are second class citizens.

212 field hospital barracks is located in a residential area close to multiple schools, 216 and 219 transport squadrons also in residential areas.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:23

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 16:55

You still don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word incident. It doesn’t mean something trivial . Look it up in the dictionary. Seriously .

Seriously. No one called 7/10 "an incident". Even in the apparent "evidence" from Wikipedia, the many incidents that made up the invasion and massacres of 7/10 are listed individually.

I bet you've been unsuccessfully searching for soem media outlet that somewhere described 7/10 (or 9/11) as an "incident"

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:25

YiddlySquat · 04/03/2026 23:32

Well given that Israel is extremely liberal and multicultural, has pretty good laws on naturalisation and has equal rights for women, I’d say it’s a good bet. Especially for Jewish Persians who desperately want to break out of the Islamic regime and have no identity with Iran

Indeed. There are LOADS of women in Israel who fled the Islamic revolution in 1979.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:27

OneFunBrickNewt · 05/03/2026 00:09

Whataboutery.
Iranian regime is vile.
Israel committed genocide in Gaza.
Hamas are terrorists.
All can be true at the same time.

So many unsophisticated posters on mumsnet, can't understand that the Middle East isn't black and white.

They could be true but there certainly isn't consensus in the world that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza. The UK government has said it's not genocide.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:36

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 17:25

@sabababa i don’t know why you are so keen to defend such disgusting evil. Hamas are bad but Israel are just as bad. What they did in Gaza was absolutely disgusting . Anyone standing up for them should be ashamed of themselves

Ahhh, so you see Israel is not "disgusting evil". It's a country, like other countries, made up of fallible human beings. Do I support what was done in Gaza? No, I don't. I think there was a lot of revenge motivating the actions even though I also don't know of any miltiary that has managed to fight a para military force embedded within a civlian population and for whom the civilians are expendable without severely imapcting that population. But, yes, preventing food from entering to put pressure on Hamas was totally wrong. And a lot of the actions were disproportionate to the miltiary gains (in my opinion). So you see, i don't just scream that Israel is evil or that Israel is entirely justified and can do no wrong.

And, no, Israel is not "just as bad" as Hamas. Hamas not only has gencodial intent to israelis, it also butchers and oppresses its own people and sees them as entirely expendable for the greater good. Just because more people die on one side than the other doesn't make them better or correct. Imagine if Hamas had actually spent money on, I dunno, building bomb shelters for its population before attacking Israel? Fewer Israelis die, not because of lack of trying from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, but because Israel actually invests in protecting its citizens. Iran is firing ballistic misiiles and cluster munitions into civilian areas of Israel - its intent is mass murder, that much is clear.

StandingSideBySide · 05/03/2026 01:46

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:27

They could be true but there certainly isn't consensus in the world that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza. The UK government has said it's not genocide.

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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls
sabababa · 05/03/2026 02:17

StandingSideBySide · 05/03/2026 01:46

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Exactly, lack of consensus. And a lot of the countries "agreeing" have pretty poor human rights records themselves, many actually genocidal but denying it (Turkey, Indonesia and Pakistan to begin with).

sabababa · 05/03/2026 02:25

StandingSideBySide · 04/03/2026 18:08

You want to check out where Israel put their intelligence and military sites
They've only recently decided to move some of them out of the capital
and Israel have plenty of land

pot kettle black

What military bases are there in Jerusalem?

Laskey · 05/03/2026 02:47

Hamas, Pakistan, Hezbollah etc ALL use human shields. Their bases are specifically built next to hospitals and schools. It’s a well known strategy. They know leftist, virtue signallers will lap it up. And they do!

Their deaths are a tragedy. But the Islamic regime is 100% culpable. They’re murdering women for not covering their faces ffs! In the thousands!

PurpleAxe · 05/03/2026 02:57

Dragonflytamer · 04/03/2026 10:30

Great - get back to class leave the adults to chat about this.

When will the adults be arriving?

rainingsnoring · 05/03/2026 03:30

Laskey · 05/03/2026 02:47

Hamas, Pakistan, Hezbollah etc ALL use human shields. Their bases are specifically built next to hospitals and schools. It’s a well known strategy. They know leftist, virtue signallers will lap it up. And they do!

Their deaths are a tragedy. But the Islamic regime is 100% culpable. They’re murdering women for not covering their faces ffs! In the thousands!

Edited

No. The Islamic regime is not responsible for the fact that Israel and the US decided to attack Iran. The responsibility for that is 100% with the representatives of these countries.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 03:43

rainingsnoring · 05/03/2026 03:30

No. The Islamic regime is not responsible for the fact that Israel and the US decided to attack Iran. The responsibility for that is 100% with the representatives of these countries.

It actually is through its actions. They were warned.
They have attacked israek repeatedly through their proxies, that is causus beli

rainingsnoring · 05/03/2026 05:02

sabababa · 05/03/2026 03:43

It actually is through its actions. They were warned.
They have attacked israek repeatedly through their proxies, that is causus beli

Not at all. Israel has been the chief aggressor in the ME. They are engaging in multiple wars with other countries in the region. The genocide that they are carrying out in Gaza is only part of it. They get an A* for playing the victim, that's for sure.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 06:01

rainingsnoring · 05/03/2026 05:02

Not at all. Israel has been the chief aggressor in the ME. They are engaging in multiple wars with other countries in the region. The genocide that they are carrying out in Gaza is only part of it. They get an A* for playing the victim, that's for sure.

Right.....
Iran isn't an aggressor. They just destroyed Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon. But what's aggressive about that?

Oh yeah and funded Hamas to carry out its mass massacre which is what precipitated the Gazan disaster.

Iran literally has a clock counting down to the destruction of Israel in the middle of Tehran. But that's cute, not aggressive.

sabababa · 05/03/2026 06:14

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TheIceBear · 05/03/2026 06:17

sabababa · 05/03/2026 01:36

Ahhh, so you see Israel is not "disgusting evil". It's a country, like other countries, made up of fallible human beings. Do I support what was done in Gaza? No, I don't. I think there was a lot of revenge motivating the actions even though I also don't know of any miltiary that has managed to fight a para military force embedded within a civlian population and for whom the civilians are expendable without severely imapcting that population. But, yes, preventing food from entering to put pressure on Hamas was totally wrong. And a lot of the actions were disproportionate to the miltiary gains (in my opinion). So you see, i don't just scream that Israel is evil or that Israel is entirely justified and can do no wrong.

And, no, Israel is not "just as bad" as Hamas. Hamas not only has gencodial intent to israelis, it also butchers and oppresses its own people and sees them as entirely expendable for the greater good. Just because more people die on one side than the other doesn't make them better or correct. Imagine if Hamas had actually spent money on, I dunno, building bomb shelters for its population before attacking Israel? Fewer Israelis die, not because of lack of trying from Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, but because Israel actually invests in protecting its citizens. Iran is firing ballistic misiiles and cluster munitions into civilian areas of Israel - its intent is mass murder, that much is clear.

Of course I don’t see the citizens as evil. I mean the government and their decisions. I don’t see any country as having a population that is “evil” but plenty of leaders are