The impossible has happened - Trump has made me a Keir Starmer supporter!

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'This is not the age of churchill'

Thank God. Fucking orange twat.

Kier should have said and Mr President this is not the age of Eisenhower, Kennedy or Obama.

I feel a bit of pushback to Trump is long overdue. Mind you, we will probably get tariffed.

I agree with you OP. He hasn't done everything right and after the terrible debates he did pre election I decided not to vote for Labour despite intending to. However he is a better leader than the last 3 we have had and he is dealing with this correctly.

A British PM who stands up to an American President is a rare thing indeed. Thank god KS believes in the rule of law and has the guts to say so.

I’d be screaming well done you’ve helped destroy a religious theocracy who hates Jews and has killed 2 million people in the last couple of years.

I genuinely cannot understand the venom people spit towards Starmer. I think he's handled this (and a lot of other things) really well.

Guts to endanger our troops and their families.

he is indeed a fantastic guy

I hadn't seen the clip of the orange buffoon criticising the UK as if we're a nation of naughty school children until I read your thread. But I have now and for once I'm quite impressed with Starmer. He's correct, we shouldn't be getting involved in a likely illegal war with Iran. As for Churchill, he was a great wartime leader at a time when we were actually at war. Given we're not at war with Iran - nor is there any imminent likelihood we're going to be - referencing Churchill is laughably pointless, petulant and predictable nonsense from the Orange One.

Services families on Cyprus aren’t at risk, they’ve been moved. Troops expect to be at risk, it’s an occupational hazard. The reality is that we don’t know what security measures are in place and nor should we, it would defeat the objective entirely if it was public knowledge.

Jury is out on educated. The something is another story

Yes to all of this. We were talking last night about Starmer showing leadership and wishing our PM (NZ, Luxon) would do the same.

Who wouldn’t have been in danger in the first place if DT didn’t fancy doing a bit of regime change.

I think the Cyprus thing is a bit of a red herring, one drone made some minimal damage and two were intercepted, anyone stationed there when it was really spicy knows that is peanuts !

To be fair the UK has very little in the way of anti missile or anti drone equipment, so there isn't much that could have been flown out to Alkrotiri anyway.

Instead the proposed solution is to park a destroyer just off the coast of Akrotiri.

Just pondering how the UK would go about defending an air base that was well inland?

Maybe based on evidence, AKA what he’s done. Iran already hated us. Now the USA does and Starmer put thousands of British citizens at risk

I think you’ll find it’s Trump who’s done that.

How do you plan ahead with someone like Trump?

Also the idea that the armed forces in Cyprus and their families are just flailing around waiting for one boat to show up is laughable !

Do you think the UK is safer when joining in with the bombing? Do you think we should join the war?

It’s not our job to take out every autocratic regime in the world. I thought we learned that from Iraq.

So why is Starmer sending a boat and helicopters?

To reinforce protection of the base at Akrotari.

Well the type 45 was built to do that as are the Wildcat helicopters on them. But we only have 6 and three are in multi year fixes meaning they aren’t available and of the three that are, one was in any way ready.

100%

Well exactly

You know what - it used to be our job, back when we could hold our head high as a country. There is nothing good to say about Iran. We should have done this years ago and I’m damned glad we did be fire it got like North Korea.