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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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DrPrunesqualer · 28/02/2026 22:04

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 28/02/2026 20:48

True, it's always someone offended on behalf of someone else.

As if Gordon Ramsey doesn't have a marketing team to do the research before opening yet another restaurant.

Wonder if he’s got a new team now 3

Gordon Ramsay’s restaurant empire has faced significant financial struggles, with The Times reporting pre-tax losses rising to £15.5 million in late 2025 despite high sales. Key issues included closing multiple Street Burger/Pizza locations, cutting nearly 200 jobs, and high operating costs [1The Sun]. The group is restructuring amid a tough hospitality environment.

Gordon Ramsay burger chain with 9 locations across UK CLOSES major restaurant

A GORDON Ramsay burger restaurant has been closed down after it was plagued by bad reviews. The windows of Street Burger on Kensington High Street, London, have been boarded up and the eatery is se…

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/33364240/gordon-ramsay-burger-chain-closes/

BambinaCucina · 28/02/2026 22:14

I have never eaten a hog roast or suckling pig. I have eaten veal (rose).

However, my mum did get a pigs head some years ago that we had to burn the hairs off and cut in half (with a hacksaw) to be able to fit in the oven. The cheeks were delicious - but I already knew that I would like them as I love guanciale.

I think it's important if you're a meat eater to make sure you're not only eating the finest cuts; I believe that's more of a disservice to the animal.

FYI - lobsters, crabs and prawns are classified as sentient beings according to the UK government, so there is little difference in eating a pig and an unpeeled prawn, as was discussed further up the thread.

TenaAngst · 28/02/2026 23:09

Gordon Ramsay is a pig just an old one with Botox

JJWT · 28/02/2026 23:10

A whole dead turkey, chicken or salmon is seen frequently. Its literally no different from any other piece of meat. Why do you think that a bit cuf off eg a pork chop is somehow more acceptable than the whole carcass the chop came from? The pig doesn't donate the chop and trot off to enjoy the rest of its day. If anything seeing the whole animal is more honest.

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IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 00:26

JJWT · 28/02/2026 23:10

A whole dead turkey, chicken or salmon is seen frequently. Its literally no different from any other piece of meat. Why do you think that a bit cuf off eg a pork chop is somehow more acceptable than the whole carcass the chop came from? The pig doesn't donate the chop and trot off to enjoy the rest of its day. If anything seeing the whole animal is more honest.

My son at the age of 4 did, on seeing a leg of roast lamb for dinner remark 'but mummy, can the lamb still walk without its leg?'

IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 00:29

DrPrunesqualer · 28/02/2026 20:23

You’ve hit the nail on the head really
just the wrong way round

Vegetarians in the restaurant wouldn't be inflicting their views on others would they

Walking through a restaurant carrying a full animal on a platter is though.

But a 1/16 of an animal chopped up is ok?

DrPrunesqualer · 01/03/2026 00:33

IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 00:29

But a 1/16 of an animal chopped up is ok?

I didn’t say that in my post

IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 00:55

DrPrunesqualer · 01/03/2026 00:33

I didn’t say that in my post

But if whole animal on platter is bad, does that mean bits of animal on plate is ok?

Or are you objecting to any meat being served at all?

DrPrunesqualer · 01/03/2026 01:01

IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 00:55

But if whole animal on platter is bad, does that mean bits of animal on plate is ok?

Or are you objecting to any meat being served at all?

What part of my post about vegetarians inflicting their views on others ( in This GR context ) is confusing to you

'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!
HughGrantsfurrysquirrel · 01/03/2026 01:38

Peoplemakemedespair · 27/02/2026 17:19

What’s your opinion on being served a whole fish/crab/other seafood? Or a whole chicken or duck? Have you never seen a whole turkey for Xmas?

My Christmas turkey does tend not to have his or her head still attached.... so no.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 01/03/2026 02:01

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but I'm with you on this. Wouldn't want to see that either.

TheOchreJoker · 01/03/2026 03:18

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:27

I do think a lot of people who eat pork, probably do so because they like it but don't particularly want to dwell on where it comes from or how it was killed.

Buying bacon in Tesco or wherever is something millions do. But sitting eating pork with the pig's head in the table would not go down well with a lot of meat-eaters. It's just vile in any reckoning. Imagine paying for that.

Edited

Know what's really vile? The sheer ignorance and arrogance of vegetarians...

A suckling pig is one of the least wasteful meals, everything is eaten, even the leftover bones can be used for broth afterwards.
On the other hand the amount of wild animals those of us on fruit/veg farms have to kill to sow, grow, protect and harvest food for people like you while you stand there and judge the food choices of others is ridiculous.
The animals that died to feed you have been poisoned, shot or snared and are now rotting in a ditch at the end of the field while you look down on meat eaters for not wasting any part of the animals that died to feed them.

The production of your veg dinner is no less bloody than a steak but we keep the reality from you so you can live in your bubble believing the lie that no animals were harmed for your plant based meals.

At least a meat eater will look a sucking pig in the face and be grateful for the meal it provides them whereas vegetarians and vegans will not even acknowledge the countless deer, rabbits, birds etc.. or the native ecosystems that are destroyed on a daily basis just to fill your judgemental bellies.

You're welcome.

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 01/03/2026 06:34

TenaAngst · 28/02/2026 23:09

Gordon Ramsay is a pig just an old one with Botox

Wow, your comment says a lot more about you than Gordon, whom you've never even met.

blubberball · 01/03/2026 06:41

I didn't like seeing it. When they put the flowers on it's eyes, it just reminded me of that fucked up Midsommar movie

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 01/03/2026 06:43

TheOchreJoker · 01/03/2026 03:18

Know what's really vile? The sheer ignorance and arrogance of vegetarians...

A suckling pig is one of the least wasteful meals, everything is eaten, even the leftover bones can be used for broth afterwards.
On the other hand the amount of wild animals those of us on fruit/veg farms have to kill to sow, grow, protect and harvest food for people like you while you stand there and judge the food choices of others is ridiculous.
The animals that died to feed you have been poisoned, shot or snared and are now rotting in a ditch at the end of the field while you look down on meat eaters for not wasting any part of the animals that died to feed them.

The production of your veg dinner is no less bloody than a steak but we keep the reality from you so you can live in your bubble believing the lie that no animals were harmed for your plant based meals.

At least a meat eater will look a sucking pig in the face and be grateful for the meal it provides them whereas vegetarians and vegans will not even acknowledge the countless deer, rabbits, birds etc.. or the native ecosystems that are destroyed on a daily basis just to fill your judgemental bellies.

You're welcome.

👏👏👏.

Even the aphids, worms, beetles, caterpillars, snails etc that die for vegetables to be harvested don't seem to count to vegans.

ChipDaleRescueRangers · 01/03/2026 06:46

I couldn't get upset about the pig, but after seeing the prices I would be upset at £20 for egg fried rice and £16 for a bowl of broccoli!

Mumtobabyhavoc · 01/03/2026 07:24

I don't know why food preferences need to become a competition of morality. And the extreme examples given are ludicrous. 🤦‍♀️
Three are moral quandaries to all food production and consumption, aren't there 🤷‍♀️
FWIW just the term suckling pig makes me want to cry at the thought of eating it. I couldn't. I also think not all things need to be eaten -- it's just gluttony. I do think we in the west over indulge in meat (often poor quality), too and stats support that, I believe.
But, no one needs to lecture about it.
Personally, I don't eat pork, but do eat beef and bison occasionally, moose on rare opportunities and consume chicken, salmon prawns and crab regularly. We're all different.
i was pretty much vegetarian at one time and I think I could go that way again quite easily, I just honestly feel better when animal protein is in my diet. But, I've gone way off course here-- just no to suckling pig, Gordo. 😥

IDontHateRainbows · 01/03/2026 08:00

DrPrunesqualer · 01/03/2026 01:01

What part of my post about vegetarians inflicting their views on others ( in This GR context ) is confusing to you

Why can't you answer the question rather than continually referring back to a previous post. It wouldn't be because you...hmm.. can't answer without contradicting yourself now, could it?

Missey85 · 01/03/2026 09:04

I love suckling pig 🐷 it's the best! Of course there's going to be dead animals on a food show! 😂

WhereAllLightComesIn · 01/03/2026 09:21

I would hate it but as a vegan I only eat in vegan restaurants, sometimes a restaurant that serves vegetarian as well. I can’t stand Gordon Ramsay anyway. There are other ways to get good views over London.

usernamealreadytaken · 01/03/2026 09:24

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:39

What a laugh for all

Animal husbandry is a hugely important life lesson; raising and caring for the thing which will sustain you, and being mindful of the circle. That’s what we’ve lost with factory farming and packaged meat which bears no resemblance to the original animal.

As a vegetarian, where do you stand on almond milk and avocados? Or do you just eat seasonal, British (assuming you are in Britain) produce?

usernamealreadytaken · 01/03/2026 09:47

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:41

That’s not an argument
because
Neither do human babies
So that’s OK then ?

Edited

Other omnivorous and carnivorous animals would have no problem with eating a human baby. Pigs are known to eat human flesh. We’re omnivores, just with enough awareness to choose what we eat and when.

DiscoBeat · 01/03/2026 09:53

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:37

If you ordered veal, would you want the cow's head on the table while you ate?

Yes, people know where meat comes from, but many of them don't like to dwell on it too much. No meat eater I know would be particularly delighted with the head of a lamb, pig or cow on the table while they ate. Let's be honest.

I eat meat 2-3 times a week but I don't like eating baby animals, I get you, OP. I picked up what I thought was venison in Waitrose the other week and realised at the checkout that it was veal, so I put it back. There's a limit for me!

faerylights · 01/03/2026 09:57

DiscoBeat · 01/03/2026 09:53

I eat meat 2-3 times a week but I don't like eating baby animals, I get you, OP. I picked up what I thought was venison in Waitrose the other week and realised at the checkout that it was veal, so I put it back. There's a limit for me!

The vast majority of the meat you buy from a supermarket will be from a baby animal Confused

Most chickens are slaughtered at 3-5 months.
Deer between 12-24 months.
Pigs before the age of 1.
Cows between 18-24 months.
Turkeys between 12-26 weeks.