Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

539 replies

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

OP posts:
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/03/2026 10:12

DiscoBeat · 01/03/2026 09:53

I eat meat 2-3 times a week but I don't like eating baby animals, I get you, OP. I picked up what I thought was venison in Waitrose the other week and realised at the checkout that it was veal, so I put it back. There's a limit for me!

The veal Waitrose sells is British produced and it's rose veal, not the veal prized on the continent which is white. British veal is produced from male dairy calves who might live to twelve months old. If there was no market for their meat they would be slaughtered at birth because obviously only female calves can go on to produce milk. Would that be better?

Here's some information from a producer about this. https://alternativemeats.co.uk/product-category/british-beef-and-rose-veal-and-dairy-cow/british-rose-veal/

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 01/03/2026 10:40

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

I am genuinely trying to understand your perspective. But wouldn’t that apply to all meat? When we make a spectacle about tender veal? Dry aged beef? Delicious duck? Or when we have an iberico ham to slowly slice?

or even how some people simply salivate over bacon and making bacon memes. How is this any different? Except that you can’t forget the actual animal that had to pay in this case.

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 01/03/2026 11:42

@Mumtobabyhavoc : But, no one needs to lecture about it......

:I also think not all things need to be eaten -- it's just gluttony.
:I do think we in the west over indulge in meat.
:just no to suckling pig.

Yet more lecturing, those are your options.
Your gluttony is someone else's normal.

Also, doesn't mean those who eat a particular thing, eat everything else.

usernamealreadytaken · 01/03/2026 11:48

I think what @paloma7 is desperately trying to let us all know, is that she doesn’t want to live in a multi-cultural society, because many cultures have traditions and practices which she finds abhorrent, and shouldn't be welcomed here. Strange that she worries that Muslims might be offended by a traditional Chinese (and European) practice. I assume she’s never seen a traditional Muslim whole goat served at big celebrations, or perhaps goats are lower on the pecking order than cute little piglets?

usernamealreadytaken · 01/03/2026 12:04

Sophabulous · 28/02/2026 18:11

Asian cuisine is very pork orientated so no I don’t think it would be odd. It’s the same as someone having bacon or a pork chop just more jarring. It’s authentic and theatrical and for all I know a delicacy?

I wouldn’t order it personally but I wouldn’t leave a place over it being at another table. I was vegetarian for 8 years btw until I had to give up for health reasons.

To each their own, it just doesn’t sound like the place for you, and I get that! I would feel that way about octopus for example. Don’t know why, just gives me the heebie jeebies!

Also, I saw some wanky post on LinkedIn yesterday about someone who went to the Manchester one I think, granted there were a fair few drinks on the bill but it was £406 for 2 people! 😱

I think I saw the same post, and nearly half the bill was alcohol - five beers, several glasses of wine and a cocktail. There was also quite a lot of food, it sounded like quite the celebration!

ilovepixie · 01/03/2026 12:41

Have you not seen a hog roast. It’s literally a whole dead pig on a spit.

Hedgesandbutterflies · 01/03/2026 12:55

usernamealreadytaken · 01/03/2026 11:48

I think what @paloma7 is desperately trying to let us all know, is that she doesn’t want to live in a multi-cultural society, because many cultures have traditions and practices which she finds abhorrent, and shouldn't be welcomed here. Strange that she worries that Muslims might be offended by a traditional Chinese (and European) practice. I assume she’s never seen a traditional Muslim whole goat served at big celebrations, or perhaps goats are lower on the pecking order than cute little piglets?

Half a camel including head hanging in the butcher's window.
Lamb head soup... 🙈 (like lamb did not like the taste oddly. I think it's the non meat parts flavour)
Lamb head placed on top of dishes...

Labelledelune · 01/03/2026 13:46

So it’s ok to eat meat but not ok to see it whole?

Deboragh · 02/03/2026 11:06

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:13

Not to mention that this will not exactly appeal to his potential Muslim customers.

Oh grow up.

CanYouHearYourself · 02/03/2026 11:12

I'd far rather people be accepting of what they are eating and pay proper prices for it than buy shitty water and chemical injected meat from supermarkets. If an animal is bred for meat then it doesn't really make much difference when it's slaughtered does it. The fact that a piglet is cuter than a pig shouldn't be part of the equation.

You seem to want people to be hypocrites OP.

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 14:02

Dear God, I cannot believe the amount of psychopaths on here that can't see what's wrong with this. Hopefully they'd feel just as comfortable seeing a newborn kitten or puppy being served up in the same manner. And I hope they don't get upset about the Yulin Festival. Otherwise it's pure speciesism. Just wait to hear all the "but it's different" excuses. It's not different at all for that animal. It's exactly the same. Breeding a baby so you can kill it as soon as it's born, how is that not evil?
Humans are so selfish, we really think we have the right to do these horrific things to animals because we have power over them. So arrogant.
Let's just hope all those thinking there's nothing wrong with this would be just as happy if they were in a country where eating dog meat was culturally accepted and it was served up whole in front of them. Or would have no problem going to a "dog" roast. If not, then they are total hypocrits as well as speciesist.
Take a walk up and down your local supermarket aisles. See how much food exists that doesn't involve dead animals. We don't NEED to exploit and kill animals when there are sooooo many other things we can eat. So if you don't need to, why would you? And don't dare call yourself an animal lover if you eat them..just don't.

BIWI · 02/03/2026 14:04

I think you need to go and have a bit of a lie down @Queenjuliana! Dismissing meat eaters as psychopaths is just a little bit silly, don't you think?

Flowersforyourchocolateprettyplease · 02/03/2026 14:25

BIWI · 02/03/2026 14:04

I think you need to go and have a bit of a lie down @Queenjuliana! Dismissing meat eaters as psychopaths is just a little bit silly, don't you think?

Agree, lost the argument right there.

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 14:39

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 14:02

Dear God, I cannot believe the amount of psychopaths on here that can't see what's wrong with this. Hopefully they'd feel just as comfortable seeing a newborn kitten or puppy being served up in the same manner. And I hope they don't get upset about the Yulin Festival. Otherwise it's pure speciesism. Just wait to hear all the "but it's different" excuses. It's not different at all for that animal. It's exactly the same. Breeding a baby so you can kill it as soon as it's born, how is that not evil?
Humans are so selfish, we really think we have the right to do these horrific things to animals because we have power over them. So arrogant.
Let's just hope all those thinking there's nothing wrong with this would be just as happy if they were in a country where eating dog meat was culturally accepted and it was served up whole in front of them. Or would have no problem going to a "dog" roast. If not, then they are total hypocrits as well as speciesist.
Take a walk up and down your local supermarket aisles. See how much food exists that doesn't involve dead animals. We don't NEED to exploit and kill animals when there are sooooo many other things we can eat. So if you don't need to, why would you? And don't dare call yourself an animal lover if you eat them..just don't.

I mean... I would eat a dog or cat...
I don't discriminate. 🤷

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 14:44

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 14:39

I mean... I would eat a dog or cat...
I don't discriminate. 🤷

What about a hedgehog or perhaps a nice plateful of butterflies as a starter. Where you you draw your line? Monkey brains? They're a delicacy in some places. Funny when I saw your username I imagined you were going to be a nature lover.

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 14:47

BIWI · 02/03/2026 14:04

I think you need to go and have a bit of a lie down @Queenjuliana! Dismissing meat eaters as psychopaths is just a little bit silly, don't you think?

That is not what I said, don't twist my words to make yourself feel better. You go and have a lie down dear. Flesh eaters don't like being called out, it's probably shaken you up

BIWI · 02/03/2026 14:50
Grin

Is that the best you can do?!!

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 14:51

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 14:44

What about a hedgehog or perhaps a nice plateful of butterflies as a starter. Where you you draw your line? Monkey brains? They're a delicacy in some places. Funny when I saw your username I imagined you were going to be a nature lover.

I like nature. I also eat nature. Natural thing.
Yeah would eat hedgehog nd considering I already had cricket protein bars that are on sale, I don't see reason why not butterflies? Unless it again about the cutness, which it generally seem to be.
I don't eat brains, even lamb ones, that's DH's speciality. Actual monkey brains are not generally eaten anywhere due to the risk anyway. It's more of a fiction they are eaten in modern world based on some historical accounts

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 15:36

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

TunnocksOrDeath · 02/03/2026 15:47

I'm don't eat meat, but this doesn't bother me at all. It really is no odds if the dead animal is served in little tiny pieces or as a whole carcass. Serving it as a whole animal is at least honest.
I get really annoyed with meat eaters who "can't" eat meat if it still looks like an animal, it's so weak-minded. If they want to eat meat, that's fine, it's totally their choice, but they should own that choice, or be honest that they're uncomfortable with things dying and give up eating it.

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 16:03

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

There is nothing boasty about understanding meat is from animals, including cute ones, and being fine with it🤷 it should be normal imho.
It's only rational not to eat something when it poses risk to you. Certain animals, mushrooms, plants. We all consider that when eating.

Honestly, I am not the one looking like a troll or looking like I am about to have aneurysm here...

Queenjuliana · 02/03/2026 16:32

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 16:03

There is nothing boasty about understanding meat is from animals, including cute ones, and being fine with it🤷 it should be normal imho.
It's only rational not to eat something when it poses risk to you. Certain animals, mushrooms, plants. We all consider that when eating.

Honestly, I am not the one looking like a troll or looking like I am about to have aneurysm here...

I would say the vast majority of the population over the age of 12 understand meat is from animals.. but most people don't go on social media proudly stating that they have no qualms about eating any type of animal, baby ones, fluffy ones, cute ones. Like most people I understand where meat comes from, but unlike you I also consider how that animal gets to be on your plate. What it goes through. The fear and the pain. I'll assume you know they gas pigs these days as it's cheaper and more cost efficient. They lower them into a chamber of CO2 gas where they scream and thrash and panic as they lose consciousness. You'll also know that pigs are known to be very intelligent. But that doesn't matter to you. Have you got a dog or cat btw?
You keep mentioning the word "cute" as if you're even more proud of the fact that it doesn't bother you to eat them either.
You're obviously not used to being challenged about your selfish views, and your response is to say that. 'I'm about to have an aneurysm'. How childish

Hedgesandbutterflies · 02/03/2026 16:41

🙄
Yeah ok you win. You are the smartest bestest person.
I am surprised you even bother to challenge someone so below tbh

Labelledelune · 02/03/2026 17:30

Deboragh · 02/03/2026 11:06

Oh grow up.

That’s not nice especially when it’s a fact.

Franpie · 02/03/2026 18:52

Labelledelune · 02/03/2026 17:30

That’s not nice especially when it’s a fact.

Do you know why Muslims don’t eat pork?

Hint - it’s not because they are fawning over little baby piglets!