'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

[paloma7]

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

I understand your point OP, I am not vegetarian and have enjoyed whole roast suckling pigs until i had to prepare one - spear it (or rather her as she was a little female) from mouth to anus, rub it with the butter and herbs sauce- and then I felt like you. Plus I leave in SW France, very near the Spanish border and I have driven past so many lorries full of 6 months old max piglets, and the screams stay with you forever. Also since when if suckling pig deserving of a £100 a head restaurant? It's quite obscene, at least there are some chefs like Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall who pay lip service to the environmental catastrophe we're in the middle of ; but not Gordon, no, always with the baseless exploitation of animals

I would much rather this than people buying unidentifiable lumps of meat in a supermarket where it’s easy to disassociate from what it is and how it was raised, treated and slaughtered.

Yes, I’d be interested to hear how OP rationalises this too.

Meh, you'll see babies on an advert, but not the moment they're conceived or born either. Most of us are comfortable with sex, pregnancy and birth but aren't really wanting to see them whilst idly wishing Netflix didn't have two tiers.

Well said

I completely agree with you OP. I am vegetarian, trying really hard to go towards a vegan diet.
I accept other people are free to choose what they eat, but the level of cognitive dissonance between eating meat and the reality of the way animals are slaughtered is something that I find astonishing and very depressing.

You don’t work for GR’s PR team by any chance? I think you’re doing an excellent job encouraging a lot of people here (me included) to try the restaurant! You should ask him for a bonus.

No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

Hm - surely a meat eater seeing a whole pig on a table and wanting to eat it anyway is pretty much the total opposite of cognitive dissonance?

We know how animals are killed, btw. You're free to find that as astonishing and depressing as you like.

She’s a hypocrite.

Growing up by a dairy farm, the wail made by the cows and their calf’s when they are separated is a sound I won’t forget. But the OP seems to have no problem with that.

Okay, so what age do you think it stops being repellent?

Six months? 18 months? 2 years? They can't be too old or the meat would be no good for eating, after all.

But actually the OPs posts undermine this argument. They are more comfortable with supermarket bacon, which is likely intensively reared without much thought for the animal or its impact. I’m not saying that the suckling pig might not also fall into this category but I think it is possible to be an ethical meat eater in the same way as it’s possible to be an unethical vegan.

She can't, which is why she's ignored every single poster asking her about it.

But you're not bothered about a tuna?

Lucky Cat is GR’s Asian brand.

Whole suckling pigs are common in Chinese restaurants and are seen roasting or hanging on spits in nearly every restaurant window in Soho.

The only people who care that they exist is the ones that want to eat them

As a previous post if you RTT
vegans and non meat eaters would rather they were all extinct. For that matter if they could speak so would they

Would you want to bread your own babies for people to prance them through a restaurant after being slaughtered.

vegans and non meat eaters would rather they were all extinct. For that matter if they could speak so would they

How the hell do you know that? 😂 Do you speak pig?

I don't have or want children FWIW. Can't understand why anyone would want to be a parent.

Meat eaters need to address all the horrors of the Industry

Well I’m glad to hear that happened back in the dark ages then

so glad we are more understanding of everyone these days

That did used to happen (except the killed humanely part). Still does occasionally. Many animals, including humans, eat meat and they kill to get it. We don't get killed by other animals much nowadays because we've developed ways to defend ourselves (like urbanization, but also killing off predators). There's generally nothing immoral about a meat eating animal killing another animal to eat. It's the cycle of life that we have evolved to be a part of.

YABU

Eating animals is depraved. I know it is socially acceptable but lots of cruel unnecessary things were once accepted.

We are not apex predators so I have never understood the use of 'carnivore' for those who bravely visit the local supermarket to purchase chopped up body parts of a poor animal chilled and packed in a fridge, when the term necrovore is more accurate.

There are also compelling environmental reasons for a plant based diet.

I am also a vegetarian and yes it must have to horrible to see but realistically in a food programme you are likely to see meat.
On watching the news tonight , it was all about over fishing of Mackerel and shows hundreds of thousands dead fish , it was horrible to see but I would come on here to make a post of it , no .
There are good things and bad things on t.v. , don't watch it if it upsets you .

But the pig is already dead when you see it, not slaughtered in front of you.

We all know how animals are slaughtered, but do most people really think deeply about what actually happens within an abbatoir.
A friend of mine worked in the offices of an abbatoir when she was younger and had to leave because of what she saw. The pigs were so distressed when being unloaded from the trucks, not to mention being kicked and treated appallingly before they even got inside. Some had heart attacks and died as they were so distressed. She never saw the actual slaughter, but what she did see was enough to stop her eating meat.

At least its not as bad as the David Cameron one.