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cornflakecrunchie · 26/02/2026 17:41

..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

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Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 19:48

Pebbles16 · 26/02/2026 19:34

Have you met young British people? There is a large sense of entitlement which seems to preclude them from wiping bums and picking produce. And, yes, that is a generalisation - but I have yet to meet a 20 something who would.

I don't agree with your other posts but you are spot on here. If benefits were cut the people already here would take the jobs.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 19:49

janietreemore · 26/02/2026 19:42

Exactly. They can only claim asylum when they have arrived, not before. If they were refused and continued to stay, they would become illegal. But the majority of asylum seekers are accepted. They are fleeing from terrible situations.

Some but they arenot all asylum seekers, though they probably all say they are, some are economic migrants, terrorists, criminals, though we don’t really know as they get rid of their documentation!

JonesTown · 26/02/2026 19:50

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 19:48

I don't agree with your other posts but you are spot on here. If benefits were cut the people already here would take the jobs.

Yes- because we definitely want people doing personal care work in people’s homes who don’t want to be there 🤨

suburburban · 26/02/2026 19:51

Pebbles16 · 26/02/2026 19:34

Have you met young British people? There is a large sense of entitlement which seems to preclude them from wiping bums and picking produce. And, yes, that is a generalisation - but I have yet to meet a 20 something who would.

Perhaps but we need to get them into employment of some description however the farming work is seasonal so it is not always that straightforward

are these arrivals necessarily going to be carers?

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 19:53

JonesTown · 26/02/2026 19:50

Yes- because we definitely want people doing personal care work in people’s homes who don’t want to be there 🤨

I was referring to all jobs. We have rising unemployment. We don't need more people. We should utilise the people we already have.

Tricket · 26/02/2026 19:54

Asylum seekers are here illegally. It's an offense to enter the country not at a designated port.

They do not have a visa and/or passports even. And they don't have any right to be here.

I used to be a "oh they are human, let them stay" but then I've seen the damage done and realised that British citizens one first and they must be refused.

For all the ills of trump, his administration just blatantly say no and refuse any and all asylum claims.

I remember MN posts saying to ban male nursery workers because even though it's not all men, banning make nursery workers will at least reduce the horrible stuff happening to children. If you take the same principle here if you refuse asylum seeking here they'd commit less crime.

EleanorReally · 26/02/2026 19:56

Boxthree · 26/02/2026 19:20

The outrage was supposed to be all about them being housed in "luxury" hotels and now they're being moved to old Army bases, you got what you asked for.

However, numbers of asylum seekers with initial claims pending has reduced from 125,000 to about 64,000 from 2024 to 2025. So no, they're not just being shuffled, their cases are being heard more quickly too.

these Crowborough people are just Not in My Backyard people
as long as they are somewhere else

Snugglemonkey · 26/02/2026 19:56

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 18:21

They are not legal. Opposite of legal is illegal. Do you prefer the US term aliens.

What is wrong with a term which at least recognises that they are people?

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 19:57

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 26/02/2026 19:04

I would prefer that you stop deliberately trying to dehumanise people, as per my previous post.

If English your first language, you will be aware that illegal is not a noun, and that you did not use the word correctly in your previous post.

You can refer to irregular migrants if you want to describe people who enter the country by irregular means. Or if you are referring to people who are seeking refuge in this country, you can refer to them as asylum seekers.

Describing people as "illegals" says more about you than it says about them.

Very kind of you to give me an English lesson. Although you seem to have missed the point of the thread. English comprehension not your strong point.

LakieLady · 26/02/2026 19:59

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 19:35

They often don’t have the money, though. They have loans from the gang master and are paying it off for years. Surgeons and the like will be applying via legal routes, satisfying the required criteria.

If people's safety is at risk because of persecution, they don't have time to go through "legal routes".

Itsmetheflamingo · 26/02/2026 19:59

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 18:20

France could strengthen their borders for a start, plus we are paying the French millions to stand on the shore and wave bye bye to the dinghies, no results, no more money. Clamp down on dinghy manufacturers. Stop RNLI providing a water taxi service, instead have patrol boats to escort them back to France.

im genuinely laughing on the cross country train at this bonkers post. WTF?!?

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 19:59

Snugglemonkey · 26/02/2026 19:56

What is wrong with a term which at least recognises that they are people?

The 'uninvited people' is that OK?

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 19:59

JonesTown · 26/02/2026 19:50

Yes- because we definitely want people doing personal care work in people’s homes who don’t want to be there 🤨

Care home work is not a vocation. Immigrants are no more suited to do it than anyone else. If it were better paid, had better training and prospects more would do it.

Tricket · 26/02/2026 20:00

EleanorReally · 26/02/2026 19:56

these Crowborough people are just Not in My Backyard people
as long as they are somewhere else

A friend in crowborough says how he sees the asylum seekers deliver drugs, and hiss and leer at the women in the area.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 20:01

LakieLady · 26/02/2026 19:59

If people's safety is at risk because of persecution, they don't have time to go through "legal routes".

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They go through several safe countries before arriving. in the U.K. Why don’t more people stop in one of them? I think we know why!

bestchooseanother · 26/02/2026 20:01

JonesTown · 26/02/2026 18:57

A human can’t themselves be illegal, but they can enter and be in a country illegally.

What I would like to see is a scheme where we accept a set number of the most vulnerable who can come in via a legal route. Those who come illegally can then be deported home or to a safe third country.

I’m not convinced we should be spending billions to accommodate people who can travel across continents through numerous sage countries, having paid smugglers thousands. They are by definition not the most vulnerable.

Cameron proposed that when the refugee crisis started. He wanted to go directly to camps and take I think 20,000 of the most vulnerable people, who were verified as genuinely in urgent need of asylum. Anyone arriving independently via smugglers would be removed.

At this point in my life I was fully 'refugees welcome' and remember thinking that was the perfect solution which would hopefully be expanded once it was shown to work. It should stop people funding the smugglers - who were funding the war that caused the refugee crisis - and prevent people from risking their own lives, and the lives of their children. Plus the money saved could be spent improving the camps for the majority who would have to remain there until they could return home. Excellent, I thought.

But the 'left' screamed that it was racist for some reason and so we should continue to allow people to pay fortunes to terrorist-linked criminal gangs, and if that meant more dead children, so be it. And the Tories being the Tories just gave in and abandoned the plan. And I realised 'refugees welcome' lot were not remotely interested in actually helping refugees, and that there was something sinister at play.

And so now we have more boats than ever carrying people from countries all over the world that are entirely safe, we have people continuing to die trying to get here (if they've not been robbed, raped or murdered before they even get to France), the camps which still house the vast majority of refugees are still horrifically underfunded hellscapes - and the smuggling gangs are richer than ever so can easily afford to cause more wars, which create more refugees, and thus ever more customers.

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 20:02

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 19:59

Care home work is not a vocation. Immigrants are no more suited to do it than anyone else. If it were better paid, had better training and prospects more would do it.

💯 this needs to happen. Afterall who did these roles decades ago.

Tricket · 26/02/2026 20:02

It baffles me why you risk death across the channel and the safety of Europe?

Netcurtainnelly · 26/02/2026 20:07

Never mind just put them on the estates and in HMOs.
Residents won't mind.🙄

LakieLady · 26/02/2026 20:08

janietreemore · 26/02/2026 19:42

Exactly. They can only claim asylum when they have arrived, not before. If they were refused and continued to stay, they would become illegal. But the majority of asylum seekers are accepted. They are fleeing from terrible situations.

My refugee friend had been imprisoned and tortured for a fortnight when she fled her country of origin and has PTSD as a result.

She arrived in the boot of a car on a cross-channel ferry.

Netcurtainnelly · 26/02/2026 20:10

MaidOfSteel · 26/02/2026 19:26

And instead, private landlords will snap up houses, probably in areas already flooded with migrants, turn them into HMOs and make an absolute fortune out of the public purse. They must be rubbing their hands together with glee.

It’s sickening.

Thankfully some landlords have refused.

Hellohelga · 26/02/2026 20:11

You wanted them out of the hotel and they are. Still not happy though. Honestly if they don’t have anxiety or adhd let them stay. We need young people to work. We can’t rely on the pip generation to do it.

Netcurtainnelly · 26/02/2026 20:12

Ella31 · 26/02/2026 18:54

Not all asylum seekers are men. And they aren't all criminals. Christ....

Not but some are and even one is too many.
They seem to be.mostly fighting age men.

Hellohelga · 26/02/2026 20:14

Gingerbeersallround · 26/02/2026 20:02

💯 this needs to happen. Afterall who did these roles decades ago.

British kids won’t work in care homes. If they do apply they go once and don’t go back. That applies to lots of jobs actually. Immigrants will do it though.

Netcurtainnelly · 26/02/2026 20:15

MissingSockDetective · 26/02/2026 18:32

That money is a drop in the ocean, it sounds significant because the media and NF and Reform tell you it is. You are supposed to be against them and think they are to blame, and you clearly are and do.

Personally I'm proud to live in a country with people from all over the world and one that will provide shelter and a home to those most in need. I see it as a privilege that we are able to do that. I would want someone to do that for me and my family if the tables were turned.

Those in need are not always thankful though.
Many of them given refuge are raping and killing women.
Not a nice way to thank the country that helped you though.

You'd think after being given help and care they wouldn't dare step out of line.