Hotels emptying

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..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

Exactly.

So does mine, but I want to reduce the number of people turning to criminality, as well as punishing those who do.

Part of this is recognising the underlying causes and reducing those. Are you not interested in that? Just a simple punish those who turn to crime?

And the vast majority of asylum seekers are also not doing those things. That's the point. It's all about perception. And the perception in the 1930s was that Jews were sexual deviants and money grabbers and all kinds of other things. People don't tend to hate other people because they think they are good people who want to fight for the local army - even if they are those things - hatred is about perception not reality. You only have to find one or two cases to stir up hatred because people are terrible at understanding both statistics and when they are being manipulated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74x9ln0y4qo

"You just have to find one or two cases to stir up hatred". Yes.

I can find you very similar headlines about Jews from the 1930s if you want? I can also find you white rapists. English rapists. Even Danish rapists.

Your response showing ONE example clearly proves the point that you simply don’t understand @CorporealCarrot post.

Definitely avoid middle aged white men: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2jye8k6go

If a mother steals milk to feed her child then the victim is the supermarket. Your loyalty lies with a multi million pound business over a starving child?

The reasons behind why people commit crimes is not black and white.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/31/new-year-s-eve-2015-in-cologne-the-night-that-traumatized-thousands-of-women-and-shook-germany_6748974_4.html

Just when you think someone can’t stoop any lower.

As opposed to what OP? What would you like 'us' to do with asylum seekers in the UK?

When multiple asylum seekers are committing serious crimes then that is an issue that all of us should be concerned about.

Not wring our hands wondering why? or proclaim 'British people do it too'

They commit a criminal offence gaining entry to the UK without a visa, that criminal offence is usually not prosecuted but when they continue to commit criminal offences, we need to wonder whether not prosecuting that initial offence is supporting asylum seekers or inviting further criminality.

You need to look at some of the reasons why.
Institutional racism, through school, through jobs and opportunities means that more ethnic families are in poverty. Far more likely to be in poverty than white people in London.

Poverty breeds crime, which is a tale as old as time and that's the thing that needs to change. Same to be said of you and your ill-informed view of people with a different skin colour. Get some education will you, for gods sake. (I know you won't).

As perpetrators and as victims, iirc.

Yes

Also I’m fed up with the constant building work which is ruining green belt land and woodland and councils riding roughshod over objections

We are continually being told we need to be net zero yet building housing which is ruining our countryside and suburban areas.

That's not the fault of asylum seekers.

I know but this never ending immigration is having a knock on effect on housing and other services

Do low life thieves not steal from corner shops? This has a huge impact on small businesses and their ability to hire staff.

All shops are businesses and they are not responsible for lifestyle choices of customers.

Mother stealing milk:-

Partner- can't they help out
Benefits- if in poverty she would get UC. That covers milk?
Get ANY job - that's what people do if they need money.
Long term plan - contraception is available. What was the original financial plan when becoming pregnant
Friends or family - does she not know anyone.
Cashflow - use a credit card
Sell something

Are you saying she couldn't take up any of these options? If so, she isn't a fit mother and I feel sorry for the child.

Most, nearly all immigration is controlled by government, the same (tory) government that's was in charge of our services and housing who have not taken into account the huge numbers of visas they granted. They are at fault 100%. Not immigrants, not asylum seekers. Immigration has gone down a lot since last year.

So your 'yes' on the post you highlighted to reply implied you are against asylum seekers as well as building new houses for them is incorrect, it is not the fault of A.S. That's why I replied to you.

But Asian boys and Chinese boys and Jewish boys are not massively over-represented. Yet experience the same discrimination.

So then you need to look at other factors which are cultural. Drug culture, gang culture and the music that come with it.

The recent Panorama episode which focused on the murder of 2 black boys in London who were both embedded in gang drug-dealing culture and when murdered by other gang members were in possession of drugs and knives themselves.

One of the boys, they showed a video he had made at the age of SEVEN wearing a balaclava and rapping/ drill music.

Is that due to poverty? is that due to racism? Or is that something else?

Anyone that claims that the over-representation of black kids in drug dealing, gangs and knife crime is due to poverty or racism is a misguided virtue-signalling fool.

Stealing always goes up in times of poverty, like other crimes.

To be fair, the cost of living and the lack of jobs has contributed to more people pushed into poverty as well as worsening conditions for those already struggling. This is real and it was a fairly hefty rise in everything and fast for us all.

'Get a job' is ideal, but a single mother of a baby on formula without any family help will not be able to work because of child care. Not everyone is fortunate to have a lovely family who are in a position to help them, poverty tends to run in families.

I’m not against people seeking asylum but definitely not happy with the amount of economic migrants who have been allowed to come to the UK plus the corruption with the student visas and people being here who shouldn’t.

Bangladeshi Londoners are the most common minority in poverty in London. Are they not Asian? Of course they are. Sigh.

Gang drug related crimes are driven by poverty.

Anyone who doesn't think that racism plays a part in creating poverty with ethnic minorities in London is an ignorant fool.

The per capita data is absolutely clear cut. We need to realise things have gotten out of hand and protect our own citizens.