To think the new halal and kosher labelling bill is a great idea?

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https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2026-02-24/debates/8FDB8A16-AE50-4246-ADC9-70191907499B/FoodLabelling(HalalAndKosherMeat)

personally I’m not bothered that meat is killed in certain ways, I think if you eat meat you need to make peace with the entire process being pretty horrible for the animals.

But if you’re going to have issues with halal slaughter, you also need to have an issue with kosher slaughter. It’s the exact same process, just with different prayers said. The slaughter process is the same in both methods - the animal has its throat slit and they are left to have the blood drain out.

Because it's the Islamophobes that want the label as a dog whistle. They don't care if it's stunned or not, hence they don't care if it's kosher.

Despite a fair few posts the majority are with you op on the voting.

Not sure about kosher, but to be halal, the animal must have access to food/drink right up until the time of slaughter, must not see another animal being slaughtered or see the knife either.

I find the care about weirdly hypocritical when you have no issue with the animal being slaughtered for your personal benefit.

”Yes please slit it’s throat so I can have a filet mignon….but do it nicely!”

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Shouldn’t that be the same in most slsughterhouses?

The unstunned halal number falls in the region of 12-28.8% which according to a quick online search is 27-30 million animals per year. That’s a huge number.

I think it’s more likely to be the case that, in certain areas of the country it’s difficult to find a restaurant that sells non halal meat. I’ve never walked into any eatery and seen a sign saying ‘kosher’.

Yes, I’m sure all racists are against halal meat, but not everyone who opposes halal meat is racist.

My understanding is that animals are lightly stunned, they recover, then are slaughtered whilst conscious. This is to get around legislation. And supermarkets can therefore say ‘yes it was stunned’ .

All meat should be labelled ‘full stun’ ‘partial stun’ ‘halal’ and ‘kosher’ . I also believe all non stun meat should be outlawed in Britain.

I do not eat meat (ethical reasons) but buy it for my children to eat and I will no longer buy supermarket meat due to their poor labelling.

If you are writing your supermarkets ‘full non recoverable stun’ is the phrase to use apparently.

AFAIK butchers have to display info about the origin of the meat, including the slaughter house. If one was concerned, you could look at the abattoir code to see if they do halal/kosher slaughter or not.
I didn't know that about the Jews not eating the rear of the animal. Can anyone tell me why?
I don't know why any of the halal animals are given elsewhere, go into any halal butcher and you find not only the meat, but innards, chicken feet, eyeballs, testicles....not much goes to waste to be going to other butchers.

Have the upmost respect for anyone who avoids meat. Think those that are eat meat, yet have issues with how the animal is slaughtered are hypocrites (& probably need to go back to finish their GCSEs!!).

Just think for a second..the animal is being KILLED for their pleasure..so they can EAT it..yet they apparently care about the animals welfare...sadly people without a brain won't understand this.

I’m vegetarian too, not here to preach before anyone jumps on me to say I am.
Rest of my family eat meat and I don’t have an issue with that. I cook meat for my family just don’t eat it myself.
I do have an issue with the method of slaughter and that we should have a choice about buying stunned or halal/kosher rather than just a blanket of non stunned.
I know that slaughter houses have got their job to do but I’ve seen footage of animals being able to see those in front being killed, animals being beaten and abused too. This doesn’t happen at ALL slaughter houses but does at some. That cruelty is what I object to.
People who say “oh but they don’t know what’s going to happen to them” are wrong.
Animals do know, they can smell it and hear it. I realise I’ve gone off on a tangent here!
Humane slaughter is what is important and in my opinion non stunned slaughter is not humane.

Yes, the slaughterhouse code is displayed on the label. A recent example of poor labelling was a friend who purchased chicken drumsticks from Costco. Slaughterhouse was halal. Not mentioned anywhere on the label that the bird was halal, because by halal standards it probably wasn’t (not processed by a halal butcher), but it was still religiously slaughtered. Google ‘slaughterhouse 2653’ and it will tell you. Anyone can do this by searching the code whilst at the supermarket. It’s certainly eye opening.

At the end of the day, slaughterhouses are a business, and they’re not just going to stop working when they have supplied all the halal butcher’s.

What's the issue with Muslim prayers being played in the UK?

I have a problem with people praying over dead animals... weird.

Some religions don’t permit consumption of meat blessed by other religions.

I want to live in a secular society. What people believe in private is each to their own, but I don’t see why we should introduce Muslim prayers in slaughterhouses in a Christian/ mainly secular country.

For halal, it's a statement of 'in the name of God' before the incision is made.

The slaughterhouses have no religious denomination as far as I'm aware. A Muslim or Jew saying something before they slaughter an animal will not make the slaughterhouse any less secular. It means nothing to you if you are not a believer.

From what I understand, Muslims eat from kosher but Jews do not eat from Muslims?

I don’t know I’m afraid, but sounds plausible given that some halal is pre-stunned, which kosher doesn’t allow.

I just know some Christian’s, depending on their interpretation of the bible, won’t consume meat blessed by another religion. There’s another but I can’t remember which religion it is.

It should be labelled as that so people who only eat that know they can. And also if someone has somewhat hypocritical notions that it is fine to kill animals for food but not if prayers are read through a tannoy while it's happening. Then they can boycott.

I think Sikhs don't eat halal in particular.

Recently I have seen that Sikhs are not allowed to eat meat that has prayed over. This is very new to me as when I lived in an area with a large Sikh/hindu population. Those that weren’t vegetarian used to buy their meat from the halal butcher.

If the slaughterhouses have no religious denomination, they should not be praying / play prayers while slaughtering the animals.

How can you say this means nothing to me as I am not a believer? It does mean something to me as I want to live in a secular society. Not where religious pressure groups manage to introduce prayers in a slaughterhouse because “it means nothing to non Muslims”.