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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:45

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 18:41

It's a shame to see comments about lynch mobs, segregation, and how black people shouldn't use the word if they don't want white people to do so. I would've thought people would be more aware of racism in this day and age.

Never has Black History month been moe needed! People actually segregated and lynched, not leaving the Royal Festival Hall voluntarily to sit in a lovely private room and watch.

Auroraloves · 24/02/2026 18:48

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

A racially aggravated hate crime? Oh come on you’re being so ridiculous

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:50

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

John Davidson will not face trial for a racially aggravated hate crime, because thankfully the authorities in this country recognise that you cannot hold someone criminally responsible for the involuntary effects of disability. There is no case to answer because there is no intent. There is no earthly reason that Davidson needs to apologise to anyone for what happened because it didn’t originate from a personal characteristic, trait or belief. It was as a result of uncontrollable disability, and hopefully, as a society, we haven’t yet stooped to making people apologise for actually being disabled.

And why were you surprised he was at a live TV event ? Do you think that those with difficult to manage is disabilities should be routinely excluded from such events simply because their condition may cause discomfort to others ?

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:51

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:45

Never has Black History month been moe needed! People actually segregated and lynched, not leaving the Royal Festival Hall voluntarily to sit in a lovely private room and watch.

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Disability History Month runs each year from Mid November to Mid December. Mark it on your calendar.

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 18:51

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:45

Never has Black History month been moe needed! People actually segregated and lynched, not leaving the Royal Festival Hall voluntarily to sit in a lovely private room and watch.

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Yes. It couldn't be more different. Regardless of what one thinks of the issue overall, using such language is incredibly belittling and dismissive.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:53

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:45

Never has Black History month been moe needed! People actually segregated and lynched, not leaving the Royal Festival Hall voluntarily to sit in a lovely private room and watch.

Edited

Mid November to Mid December is Disability History Month so maybe you can use that time to read up on how disabled people were (are) segregated, bullied, attacked and discriminated against

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:54

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:45

Never has Black History month been moe needed! People actually segregated and lynched, not leaving the Royal Festival Hall voluntarily to sit in a lovely private room and watch.

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What about a disabled history month ? This is not a game of top trumps and it isn’t racist to point out that the perceived slur wasn’t intentional.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:54

Auroraloves · 24/02/2026 18:48

A racially aggravated hate crime? Oh come on you’re being so ridiculous

I can't believe they actually suggested that might happen and they were trying to avoid it!

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:55

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:53

Mid November to Mid December is Disability History Month so maybe you can use that time to read up on how disabled people were (are) segregated, bullied, attacked and discriminated against

Like Henrietta Lacks? Ok.
Now she was actually segregated in the 40s and her cells stolen to make a cure for cancer. But hey Henrietta, its ok to let any racial slurs against you be broadcast across the world because rap bands use the word.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:55

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:53

Mid November to Mid December is Disability History Month so maybe you can use that time to read up on how disabled people were (are) segregated, bullied, attacked and discriminated against

This. The general consensus seems to be that racism is disgusting but ableism is fine and dandy.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:55

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 18:51

Yes. It couldn't be more different. Regardless of what one thinks of the issue overall, using such language is incredibly belittling and dismissive.

And accurate...

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:58

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:53

Mid November to Mid December is Disability History Month so maybe you can use that time to read up on how disabled people were (are) segregated, bullied, attacked and discriminated against

Given the overwhelming slew of ignorant and prejudiced comments about John and Tourette's polluting twitter this past few days, I think it should be compulsary for the idiots posting same to observe Disability History Month.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:58

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:55

This. The general consensus seems to be that racism is disgusting but ableism is fine and dandy.

The general consensus across the press, public and social media- not just PoC- is that the words should have been edited out.
You can believe this is ableist. But it does seem to be the consensus.
Most people also agree it wasnt JDs fault. I think it might have to be left at that

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:59

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:55

Like Henrietta Lacks? Ok.
Now she was actually segregated in the 40s and her cells stolen to make a cure for cancer. But hey Henrietta, its ok to let any racial slurs against you be broadcast across the world because rap bands use the word.

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You're changing the goalposts again

Disabled people were locked up in asylums, sent to special schools and homes where they wouldn't "offend" people, not allowed to work. And this was until recently. Even now disabled people are faced with being unable to exit their homes because of poorly managed tower blocks or unable to enter places because of lack of access

As shown in I Swear, they are also the victims of physical abuse and harm by people who fail to understand their conditions

But do tell us how segregation and violence is just a black issue..

Lockupyourbiscuits · 24/02/2026 19:00

It’s a real shame that no idiot could see what might happen here
It doesn’t take a genius to think what might happen and I’m sure even during filming he would have had the N tic
It was never going to end well - The participants weren’t able to give consent they understood this could happen and it was never going to be ok because Tourette’s isn’t understood and the word is too offensive
I think BAFTA are to blame for putting all at risk of this outcome and the BBC for broadcasting-
I really feel for JD and the men accepting the award
just terrible

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 19:01

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:59

You're changing the goalposts again

Disabled people were locked up in asylums, sent to special schools and homes where they wouldn't "offend" people, not allowed to work. And this was until recently. Even now disabled people are faced with being unable to exit their homes because of poorly managed tower blocks or unable to enter places because of lack of access

As shown in I Swear, they are also the victims of physical abuse and harm by people who fail to understand their conditions

But do tell us how segregation and violence is just a black issue..

All true. But John Davidson leaving the Royal Festival Hall is not segregation. That's hyperbole.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 19:01

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:55

This. The general consensus seems to be that racism is disgusting but ableism is fine and dandy.

Quite

There is a definite suggestion being made here that segregation and violence are exclusively black issues

But when that's pointed out, conveniently some people change their narrative

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 19:02

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 19:01

Quite

There is a definite suggestion being made here that segregation and violence are exclusively black issues

But when that's pointed out, conveniently some people change their narrative

Not what I said. I said JD leaving the hall is not segregation and editing his remarks not censorship.

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 19:02

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 19:01

All true. But John Davidson leaving the Royal Festival Hall is not segregation. That's hyperbole.

What is it then? How would you describe it?

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 19:02

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 19:01

All true. But John Davidson leaving the Royal Festival Hall is not segregation. That's hyperbole.

And yet you've said they can't use segregation as a term for disabled people being kept out of spaces

Which is exactly what happened by him leaving. Voluntarily or not, he was still unable to stay in a space because others found him uncomfortable

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 19:03

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 19:02

What is it then? How would you describe it?

Voluntarily leaving to sit in a comfortable space. Not being kicked off a bus.

Triskellion75 · 24/02/2026 19:04

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:36

The fallout has mainly been due to he attitudes of people on SM who clearly have no idea what Tourette’s involves and no desire to educate themselves. Which is kind of my point.

I get it, I do. But the poor guy's been getting dog's abuse from all sides.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 19:05

Lockupyourbiscuits · 24/02/2026 19:00

It’s a real shame that no idiot could see what might happen here
It doesn’t take a genius to think what might happen and I’m sure even during filming he would have had the N tic
It was never going to end well - The participants weren’t able to give consent they understood this could happen and it was never going to be ok because Tourette’s isn’t understood and the word is too offensive
I think BAFTA are to blame for putting all at risk of this outcome and the BBC for broadcasting-
I really feel for JD and the men accepting the award
just terrible

You think people should give consent to be around disabled people?

Auroraloves · 24/02/2026 19:07

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 19:05

You think people should give consent to be around disabled people?

That’s how it reads doesn’t it?

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 19:08

Black History Month in the UK is in October btw.