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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:05

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 17:59

no one would learn a thing about the condition if it was censored out.

I watched John's Not Mad again today. The sight of him sitting in that classroom, way back in the 80's, eating lunch alone and segregated from his peers, genuinely made me cry. All I could think was it's still happening to him. He was forced into segregation at the BAFTAS, at the event which was meant to be a celebration of all he's achieved.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:05

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:01

John has to do precisely nothing. The responsibility is with BAFTA and the BBC, or whichever event he attends in the future. He's already put out a statement. That's enough.

Yes, slurs about anyone should be edited out before they are broadcast to millions. So a disabled person calling Meryl Streep a cunt when she goes up on stage at the Oscars, that can be edited out too. We don't need to use it as a learning aid to teach people about disabilities.

I don't really understand why you are going on about JD, when I have not mentioned him in my last few posts.

Edited

So basically any characteristic or trait of disability that makes us uncomfortable in any way should just be edited out as though it doesn’t exist ? That attitude is one of the reasons that disabled people people were institutionalised for so long. Out of sight, out of mind.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:06

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:05

So basically any characteristic or trait of disability that makes us uncomfortable in any way should just be edited out as though it doesn’t exist ? That attitude is one of the reasons that disabled people people were institutionalised for so long. Out of sight, out of mind.

Ok. You are entitled to your opinion. If you think editing out the N word is like locking disabled people up in asylums, I can't help with that level of hyperbole.

The two are very far apart.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:05

I watched John's Not Mad again today. The sight of him sitting in that classroom, way back in the 80's, eating lunch alone and segregated from his peers, genuinely made me cry. All I could think was it's still happening to him. He was forced into segregation at the BAFTAS, at the event which was meant to be a celebration of all he's achieved.

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:12

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:15

Quite confused by this response. You disagree but think it should have been bleeped out? Do you think leaving it in creates awareness?

It’s perfectly simple. Yes, leaving it in creates more awareness. Unfortunately the price to pay for raising that awareness involved the explosion of a baying mob on social media demanding what would essentially have been a pointless apology for an action resulting from disability a without intent. But hey, someone has to pay, right ?

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:17

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

Where were black people segregated at the BAFTAs?

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:17

And is it using people as learning aids or simply showing the reality for people who suffer like John?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:17

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

Where and how were black people segregated ?

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:21

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:17

Where and how were black people segregated ?

In the past. Not at the BAFTAS. That's what Sinners was about.

I can't believe people are using that word so casually and with so much hyperbole.
It's a bit like saying "Well I had a holocaust in my house!" when your boiler broke.
John Davidson was not segregated.

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 24/02/2026 18:24

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:21

In the past. Not at the BAFTAS. That's what Sinners was about.

I can't believe people are using that word so casually and with so much hyperbole.
It's a bit like saying "Well I had a holocaust in my house!" when your boiler broke.
John Davidson was not segregated.

And disabled people were locked in asylums so very comparable.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:25

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:21

In the past. Not at the BAFTAS. That's what Sinners was about.

I can't believe people are using that word so casually and with so much hyperbole.
It's a bit like saying "Well I had a holocaust in my house!" when your boiler broke.
John Davidson was not segregated.

That's a ridiculous comparison

Disabled people are segregated and kept away from others. That's what I Swear was about

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 18:25

You cannot throw it about in popular music like confetti then expect a person with Tourette’s to be censored. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. If you want the word erased from the modern consciousness then everyone has to stop using it. Not just white people.

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

Triskellion75 · 24/02/2026 18:26

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:44

There is something called reasonable adjustment and accommodation which is applied to disabled people to ensure that despite disability, they can participate fully in society. Many disabled people are marginalised by their conditions because they are difficult to manage, misunderstood and society is intolerant of them.

What you’re suggesting here is censorship. Because Tourette’s is difficult and unpredictable, let’s sanitise it so that people aren’t offended. Do you not think a better option would be to show the reality and the difficulty people with this condition live with every day ? How else are we, as a society, going to learn, tolerate and ultimately ensure social inclusion ?

I don't agree, because the fallout on both the actors and JD has been horrendous. JD has already attempted suicide in the past and this must be dreadful to live through right now. And I'm 100% of the opinion that he has nothing to apologise for.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:29

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

No. Tourettes sufferers absolutely cannot and should not be prosecuted for hate crimes. That requires intent. No intent here.

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 18:30

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

So you are suggesting a men with a genuine disability should be segregated after all the work he has done bringing about awareness. You are part of the problem. You are what he has been having to deal with all his life.

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 18:32

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

He won't be - his disability is a protected characteristic, as it should be.

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 18:33

https://x.com/concretemilk/status/2026336282683539931

A bit more awareness for you all - this is an 8 year old boy with tourettes who is so distressed by his tics that he askes his parents to kill him. It's a hard, hard condition to live with.

Damo (@concretemilk) on X

This is how Tourette's can impact the people who live with it. I'm sure demanding that they issue relentless apologies for their tics would be a massive help, right?

https://x.com/concretemilk/status/2026336282683539931

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:33

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:06

Ok. You are entitled to your opinion. If you think editing out the N word is like locking disabled people up in asylums, I can't help with that level of hyperbole.

The two are very far apart.

It’s not hyperbole and l wasn’t directly comparing editing out the N word with ;locking up disabled people’. I said editing out the N word was sanitising what is reality for people with this condition. They are marginalised by a society that doesn’t understand their condition and how difficult it it is to live with, and not showing the reality because it’s too uncomfortable for others to look at is perpetuating the ignorance. It’s 2026 and we should have left attitudes like this behind when the last asylums and institutions closed fifty odd years ago.

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 18:36

Naunet · 24/02/2026 13:40

Then genuinely, kindly, you should get some therapy for that.

Wow. What a passive aggressive response.

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 18:36

2.5k likes for someone wanting to violently assault John Davidson, btw. A man with 23K followers on X.

https://x.com/larryislegend/status/2025708362738909257

Larry Legend (@larryislegend) on X

They should stomp the Tourettes out that man.

https://x.com/larryislegend/status/2025708362738909257

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:36

Triskellion75 · 24/02/2026 18:26

I don't agree, because the fallout on both the actors and JD has been horrendous. JD has already attempted suicide in the past and this must be dreadful to live through right now. And I'm 100% of the opinion that he has nothing to apologise for.

The fallout has mainly been due to he attitudes of people on SM who clearly have no idea what Tourette’s involves and no desire to educate themselves. Which is kind of my point.

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:37

ILikeKeirStarmer · 24/02/2026 18:26

saw the moment live but didn't hear what was actually shouted (noisy husband). The 2 poor actors were clearly shocked but carried on with the utmost grace and professionalism.

I saw later that apologies were issued which is obviously completely right.

I was genuinely astonished that the apologies were so mealy-mouthed and were not specifically directed to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

I am personally sorry that such an awful thing happened and I hope they, and any other Black person who heard this, are able to get over it.

I assume that they are being very careful to avoid a situation where John Davidson faces trial for a racially-aggravated hate crime.

I am surprised he was in such a high stakes situation of prestigious live television given his condition.

At this stage, I'm struggling to decipher which comments are serious and which comments are satire.

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 18:41

It's a shame to see comments about lynch mobs, segregation, and how black people shouldn't use the word if they don't want white people to do so. I would've thought people would be more aware of racism in this day and age.

Weeallthewayhome · 24/02/2026 18:42

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

You clearly paid no attention to the film, the several documentaries and a plethora of articles about this brave and extraordinary man.

Of course he was segregated. Your choice to assign other interpretations of that word is entirely valid but it is used entirely correctly and in heartbreaking context about him.

The Borders of Scotland in the 1980s was a cruel place for many children,