Are you now more likely to vote for REFORM (the party)

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NC for this and apologies if Q already asked. My quick search yielded no result.

Reform plan to undo the reversal of 2 child cap benefit. Are you now likely (or more likely) to vote for them? There have been endless threads about the welfare bill.

I was talking about refiguring universal credit but I'll get back to you with the finer detail when I am in Government!

Makes no difference. I would never vote for them. Their opinion about disabled children are vile and dangerous.

Except Thunberg was threatened and arrested (and quite brutally treated.) Which proved the point she was trying to make (whether you agree with it or not). Farage had nothing much really happen except being politely told he can't enter and did a lot of breathless over-dramatic tweeting on a beach in The Maldives and then flew home. Which makes him look like a self agrandising fool. It's like Alan Partridge does Ghandi.

So the video doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know and that Nathan Gill was correctly convicted.

But none of it gives any evidence or truth to your statement of "Farage's Russian links " because there isn't any.

For what it's worth I would never vote for Reform based on facts rather than misinformation such as an un evidenced claim of Russian links".

Facts like Reform UK's proposed economic, tax, and public service reforms being massively unfunded, with estimates of up to a £93bn shortfall in their 2024 manifesto.

l will also continue to shoot down misinformation and conspiracy theories.

Look. I have been a welfare benefits specialist for over a decade. I spend most of my working hours fighting (often in tribunals after a harrowing year wait for a court slot) for people who, believe it or not, do not love the hand that life has dealt them. And before you jump up and give me some half arsed babble about "oh but the truly needy and ill shall be helped!"- rubbish. Reform would like nothing more than to drop every disabled, long term sick person, single parent left floundering after DV or bereavement, off the nearest coastal location and forget all about them. Reform have fostered and engineered such hatred for anyone vulnerable it makes me physically sick. The issues in our welfare system - where there are definitely issues- are not fixable by fostering their kind of one size fits all despisement of anyone who doesn't fit their flag waving, ignorant inciteful agenda. And your ridiculous notions about another tier to the system that already is fraught with understaffing, woefully inadequate admin systems and downright incompetence is a joke.

Absolutely 100% agree. Disgusting.

Did you read the policies?

Barely.

corporate speak they won't mention hiring quotas etc

Some had hiring targets although apparently not met, e.g.

Deloitte [UK] is committed to achieving 12% ethnic minority and 3% Black partners by 2025, plus targets across other grades to create the future pipeline of talent.

a target of 40% female partners (or senior leaders) by 2030

EY UK Target [not met] 40% female partners by July 2025, alongside a target of 20% from ethnic minority backgrounds (with 15% being Black).

I will probably be voting tactically next time, and just now I have no idea which party I will vote for, will have to decide nearer the time. Here’s the most recent summary of voting intention across opinion polls, but things can change, so who knows https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/

It's like Alan Partridge does Ghandi

That's probably hilarious as well. I still think he got the idea from Greta Thunberg. Publicity stunt for both.

Oh for sure I think it was a publicity/PR stunt for both. There is no way Thunberg thought they would be allowed to sail that boat to Gaza. She did it in the expectation they would be arrested. Thus drawing attention to the blockade/making Israel look bad. But she was successful - she was "arrested for trying to bring aid" and it got attention.
I dont know if Farage also wanted to be arrested or exactly what he hoped would happen. But "man goes to military base without completing any paperwork and is told politely he can't come in because he hasn't done the paperwork so flies home" isn't a PR win in the same way. If they'd handcuffed him and thrown him in Chagossian jail he'd have made a point but that was never going to happen.

It's all so terribly British.

Yeah that's the sort of thing I meant when I said you can have targets but you are limited in what you can do to meet them. So you can maybe do more recruiting fairs in areas with high ethnic minority populations, you can have a senior woman give talks about how great working for Deloitte is, you can make the working environment ”inclusive" and tell everyone you are doing it in the hope it encourages minorities to apply. But you can't say "we need 20% of the applicants we choose to be ethnic minority so privilege those applications". If 100% of the best qualified applicants are white men (unlikely in reality) you can't legally reject some in favor of a less qualified candidate. Likewise internal promotions.
That's the kind of "uneven playing field" people complain about but it's not actually legal here. Its a breach of the equality act and puts companies on the hook for big payouts. Which is why it's odd Reform/the right are discussing getting rid of the EA.

This literally makes me laugh out loud. I know of a reform candidate who hasn’t worked since he left university in an actual job. Over 5 years.

He doesn’t claim benefits. He just sponges off the woman that he lives with. She pays for everything the stupid mare.

Reform has announced a more extreme immigration plan than Trump.

Would you like to see ICE in the UK @Decisiondecisions ?

But surely they should go back to country of origin once the danger past OR apply for a work visa to stay.

Most of them do go back. The problem is that safety can take a very long time to be restored.

Once they are granted asylum, that is effectively a work visa to stay. Personally I think we should allow asylum seekers to work - it would aid integration, keep them occupied and help the economy.

I'm sure the Reform supporters on here are salivating at the idea of deporting people who were granted IRL decades ago.

Non European people that is.

Exactly. Though I have no doubt that they will also come after those of us who have EU settled status, because they don't want to pay us our pensions.

I think they can once approved.

But not when in the process (with a few exceptions) and that is when people complain about them receiving free accommodation, food, healthcare and a small amount of spending money.

The problem with the process is it's so inefficient and takes far too long. Should be sped up. Those approved can get to work and those denied should be immediately removed

I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than vote for that shower of bastards.

I'm absolutely in favour of speeding up the process. It's best for everyone. But that will cost money, and Reform lovers will whinge about the cost to the taxpayer.

There is also a backlog of cases. Reform is not interested in improving the process though.