Are you now more likely to vote for REFORM (the party)

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NC for this and apologies if Q already asked. My quick search yielded no result.

Reform plan to undo the reversal of 2 child cap benefit. Are you now likely (or more likely) to vote for them? There have been endless threads about the welfare bill.

I'd vote for a potted plant before I'd vote for reform.

Ofcourse it is about school fees, The majority of children between 5 and 18 are not affected by VAT on fees.

I really shouldn’t but…. why don’t you feel British?

I am unclear why who your neighbours are (?) makes you feel differently about your identity.

If we do, what will the remaining unemployable elderly and angry little Englishmen live on?

There is nothing they would do that would make me vote for them. My existence offends them so why would I?

not going to vote for them

I don’t mind school fees, I’m pro/education choice. I have said several times I’m a single issue voter on reversing the children aged 5 to 18 education and vocational training tax, there’s no point in telling me I’m not to be honest. It’s quite a weird argument to try and have with someone really

My lack of admiration for the Reform party is infinite.

That’s a tad selfish don’t you think? Do you not have empathy for the rest of us?

Much respect for your post, as this is the first time I've seen someone actually make a coherent post as to what might encourage their vote. Usually it's just arguing and deflection, 👌🏾.

No way!

Not a chance

I am brown, so no.

Whut?

A vote for Reform is a vote for racism, xenophobia, economic recession and poverty. The only thing that might ever change my absolute no on voting for them would be a policy so out of keeping with their usual rhetoric that I could believe I had misjudged them. A legal way to apply for asylum in Europe without making dangerous boat crossings in the channel perhaps.

Theres such a thing as society, if everyone voted literally what suited them short term without any thought for others then where would we be?

Oh I would say you are very honest that you are voting on this single VAT issue and that you don't care about their other policies.

Maybe a tad selfish?

One man - approx 450 victims.
Many Muslim men - estimated 250,000 victims.
I think we can safely say the Muslim raping gangs have left many many more victims in their wake.
I’m not sure if Jimmy Saville impregnated girls, forced them to have abortions, drugged them, forced them into being raped by multiple men night after night, beat them, tortured them and murdered them.
I don’t know if Reform can do anything for these girls but I would hope that any more girls who are reported (because it’s still going on, don’t kid yourself otherwise) to social services in Reform run councils will now be given the support they need to report to the police and be removed from these evil evil men’s clutches. I hope they wouldn’t throw these girls back to their abusers because they were too scared of
a) being called racist
b) loosing the Muslim vote.

I’ll say it again.
I don’t know how any woman can vote Labour knowing how they left white working class girls to be repeatedly raped so they could keep votes.
I suspect many of those girls who are now women will vote Reform - probably fill the ‘not educated women’ demographic flung out on this thread.
They may not be ‘educated’ by mumsnet standards -but they are educated on a side of life and humanity that Labour MPs deny an enquiry into.
I wonder why.

God No ! They aren't even a political party, they are just a limited company set up by a very experienced grifter. Fair play to their PR team though, that's some graft for a grifter !

Good, glad we finally managed to get there.

Am I living in an alternative universe or is this thread somehow discussing how Jimmy Saville might be bad but he’s not the worst?

That was not on my bingo card for this year. Or ever, really.

And as someone who is struggling to conceive, this has upset me no end

Between 1980 and 2013, the United Kingdom had five different Prime Ministers, with the Conservative Party in power from 1980–1997 and 2010–2013, and the Labour Party from 1997–2007
Between 1997 and 2013, girls were abused by grooming gangs of predominantly Pakistani men.

Those dates seem to implicate both the Conservatives and Labour ?

First post nails it. I’d vote for no one before even considering them

I’m either going to vote Conservative or Restore.