Reform aren't a proper political party - why are we pretending they are?

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Farage isn't a real political leader. He's a hype 'em up, sound bite merchant. When he was an MEP he rarely bothered to attend. He just wants the kudos without any desire or ability to do the actual work.

The councils run by them are chaos, having increased council tax massively despite promises to the contrary.

Reform is just the next iteration of the National Front, BNP, English Defence League. Farage is no better than Nick Griffin.

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I find it quite entertaining that on the one hand people complain about media bias and on the other, complain that Reform get air time.

Farage is a a despicable bastard and a waste of oxygen. However, he needs to be taken seriously as a very real threat. He could be our next prime minister. I don’t want that to happen as you can probably tell, but it’s a real possibility.

Only fascists complain about their opposition having free speech and promotion of that free speech through the media.

Oh worth a punt for 4 years of a Reform government? Destroying the NHS, repealing the Equality Act so you can be sacked for being pregnant or disabled or black?
I can only assume you’re Fagash Nige.

Perfectly summarised.

And if I hear my multi millionaire parents in law whine and blame immigrants whilst playing GB News for 12 hours a day from their massive 6 bed detached after a life of wealth, comfort and privilege I'm not sure I can be held responsible for my actions.

Especially as my FIL had to recently have an emergency hospital admission and never complained once about any of the staff who werent English at that point. They were good enough to be in the country the second it suited him.

Don't you think that Labour are just the same though?

Morgan Mc Sweeney and the £700k donations undeclaired to get Starmer elected from Nevsky Capital founder Martin Taylor and Trevor Chinn.

Lord Ali donating funding, clothes and a flat to all of the top tier of politicians given special access pass to Downing St.
Total Support: Over £100,000 in gifts and, separately, a long history of donations to the party over two decades.
Specific Gifts to Starmer: Included £16,000 in clothing (October 2023/February 2024), another £16,200 for clothes earlier, £2,485 for glasses, and £20,000 for accommodation.

American Billionaire Peter Theil from Palentir was given a large contract from a deal put togehter by Peter Mandelson. At the time, Palantir was a client of Global Counsel, the lobbying firm Mandelson founded.
Since then, Palantir has signed a £240 million deal* *with the Ministry of Defence, on top of its £480 million contract to manage sensitive NHS patient data.
Peter Mandalson also accepted 70,000 from Epstein, he also was given a rented house from Nathan Rothschild in Wiltsire and owns a 7.6 million pound townhouse in Camden, a 2.4 million Camden Villa and a Nottinghill House.

The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change (TBI) is heavily funded by American tech billionaire and Oracle founder Larry Ellison, whose foundation has donated or pledged at least £257 million ($338 million+ USD) to the institute since 2021.

I honestly don’t understand this when they are full of the dregs of the Tory party who fucked the country up in the first place.

I think he's going through the motions, while in reality, hoping for a call from the Tory Party with the right offer to facilitate his taking over as their new leader.

No. Because they are LABOUR.
If Labour came up with the same policies that are so derided here, the same posters would be lining up to justify them.
See WFP, tanking economy, RR lies, zero growth, property tax, Chagos, Mandelson - all have been wafted away as The Tories Would Be Worse or a fuss over nothing.
It's quite entertaing tbh

it’s really depressing to have no ‘good’ options to bote for and having to opt for the least bad or tactically to keep the worst out.

I dread the Greens too. Quite mad.

I've said that for a long time.

The Greens are currently the most dangerous party. Their naivety has given access to radical Islam. Women are screwed all ways round with the Greens yet lefties still vote for them.

You're up for them fucking you, me, and everyone else, then? As they 'fuck the lot of us'?

Lots of people on here have suggested that all political parties are the same, and that none of them deliver on their promises. That is certainly the picture painted by the largely right-wing press in this country. Labour have made several mistakes and political missteps in the past two years, but they have made significant progress on a lot of their pledges - we just don't hear about it.

I don't support Reform but they couldn't destroy the country more than the Conservatives and Labour have already done.

Couldn't they? Are you sure? There is absolutely nothing that could be worse than it is right now?

Working for the NHS I totally agree!

I can see the evidence as I work in a nhs hospital.

OK, that's the biggest laugh I've seen yet.

Working for the NHS, believes that the one party who want to bin the NHS couldn't make things worse.

Genuinely couldn't make it up.

Exactly that's my point, things are so bad now it's hard to imagine anything getting worse!

And you actually can't imagine anything worse than the UK is right now? What if you really, really, try?

Reform have admitted their ‘commercial strategy’ for Warrington Council has ‘failed’, and they are in £1.6 billion debt, and a council tax rise is imminent.

I think Labour need to make the point to the nation that if this is repeated on a national scale, than the UK is in a lot of trouble.

I was more shocked that, finally, an NHS worker can admit the current system will never get any better. Far too much wasted money has been thrown at it, when managers are as useless as council hierarchy. It should be run like a business. U fortunately, the only business the fat cats are interested in is their own personal finances.

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Some would risk losing all of that just as a "ha, ha, screw you!" It's not a game, it's people's lives.
Seems very cut off your nose to spite your face.
Unless you're a rich millionaire yourself maybe.