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To be annoyed I had to watch GB News to see coverage of anti women protestors at Southwark

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/02/2026 12:35

A mother, Miranda Newsom, had her gym membership suspended for a year after reporting an "unmistakably male" trans woman in the female changing room.

Why isn't this on the BBC? The reporter in the video is doing genuinely impressive investigative journalism, didn't we used to have the national broadcaster to do this sort of thing?

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FateAmenableToChange · 18/02/2026 19:08

Vote with your £ people - if you can. My gym is very clear - changing rooms are single sex. Duncan Bannatyne was vocal that in his gyms changing rooms are single sex. Dont sign up to gyms where they take it upon themselves to expose you to this shitshow. When women stop joining (and say why) theyll change their misogynistic policies fast enough.

Catiette · 18/02/2026 19:35

FateAmenableToChange · 18/02/2026 19:08

Vote with your £ people - if you can. My gym is very clear - changing rooms are single sex. Duncan Bannatyne was vocal that in his gyms changing rooms are single sex. Dont sign up to gyms where they take it upon themselves to expose you to this shitshow. When women stop joining (and say why) theyll change their misogynistic policies fast enough.

I asked at a leisure centre I visited recently if the female-only sauna actually meant female-only. Held my breath as I asked the dreaded question (but how could I not? it was in this isolated little corner, and I'd not consider using it without being certain - I resented being put in that position)... And the guy said that he understood and it was, and emphatically expressed his agreement about how important this is.

I was lucky there, I know - but the more who ask, the more they'll notice and listen.

callmeLoretta1 · 18/02/2026 21:32

Verytall · 17/02/2026 12:38

Happy that my reality isn't yours. In mine, people live and let live. Yours seems to be focused on hate and fear. It doesn't sound like a nice way to live.

You realise we have every good reason to hate and fear the male sex?

callmeLoretta1 · 18/02/2026 21:36

Verytall · 17/02/2026 12:49

Perhaps calling people fuckwits, shouting at people in changing rooms and declaring 'anyone with a penis is a threat' isn't the best strategy for that then.

Womens sports is a new one. I remember watching someone interview TERF protesters at a sporting event. They were asked about women's sports they watched, female athletes they admired, sports they were concerned were affected, how often trans people in sports were affecting women. It was a long video. Not one could give an answer. That's how much they cared about women's sports.

Oh that purity trick. Women don't need to know or participate in sports to care that women and girls have fair and safe sport for those who are into it.

And if males want to convince us they should be allowed in our female only spaces, calling for us to be raped, curb stomped, punched, stabbed etc is not the best strategy. Polls released today show trans is going backwards in support in America and by female Democrat voters. That is no surprise. Interesting twitter thread: https://x.com/lxeagle17/status/2023744570308317232

Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) on X

The trans rights backlash is extremely real and very worrying for progressives. The public is aligned with conservatives on several issues like sports, restrooms, and minors' access to care. It's possibly the worst issue for progressives I've ever pol...

https://x.com/lxeagle17/status/2023744570308317232

callmeLoretta1 · 18/02/2026 21:38

Verytall · 17/02/2026 13:04

I don't have a link to the original as it was on my social media, but depressingly its not unusual to find people protesting who don't care about what they're protesting 'for', just those they're protesting against. There's another here

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/quick-hit-anti-trans-protestors-embarrassingly-cant-even-name-5-women-pro-athletes/

Lgbtqnation - so an anti-women thinktank. 🙄

callmeLoretta1 · 18/02/2026 21:40

Verytall · 17/02/2026 13:51

I have written about the first point earlier in the thread, though quelle suprise you don't have the basic manners to read what I'd written, and I daresay you won't bother to read this post either, but what the hell. I believe that trans men should use the men's and trans women's should use the women's. As to sports, you're assuming a view I haven't given. The sports situation is complicated and nuanced depending on the sport, it is a very, very minor problem when you look at the problems facing women in sports, and the sport that I personally participate in has rules in comps that everyone seems happy with. There are only two known trans people who compete in the sport I'm in, and only at a novice/local comp level so it's not our primary focus. We're a bit more interested in things like having equal competition prizes and fair weight categories, the things that affect 100% of our female competitors.

Transwomen are males with penis and testicles. Why should a male with penis and testicles being in the female change room?

callmeLoretta1 · 18/02/2026 21:51

Verytall · 18/02/2026 17:02

No, I said after seeing post after post from you can I can well imagine you might be the women in the story being banned for (according to what I read online) approaching and shouting at a stranger who was clothed and washing their hands in a sink.
I know quite a few people who are trans through the LGBTQ scene and I don't know any who would behave as indiscretely as you or others on here do. Do you usually get your bits out and wave them around at people in changing rooms? Do you frequent places where this is a thing? If not why do you think anyone else would, especially someone who is already likely to be fearful of drawing attention to themselves.

I know you're not going to agree with me and probably chalk me up as some woman hating cool girl. I just think the things you post have no bearing in reality. You seem to think that anyone who is trans is some sort of bizarre caricature, who is threat to any woman. It's not borne out in reality, in lived experience or in the stats on offenders. I said it right at the start of the thread, if a man wants to attack a woman he's not going to worry about putting on a dress and finding a women's toilets first.

"You seem to think that anyone who is trans is some sort of bizarre caricature, who is threat to any woman. "

You still don't get it. It's about males. Not trans.

"I said it right at the start of the thread, if a man wants to attack a woman he's not going to worry about putting on a dress and finding a women's toilets first."

That comment has already been addressed and torn apart. As we said, they don't need to bother putting on a dress anyway.
'If a burglar wants to break into a house he's not going to worry about locked doors, but we still lock them.'
We strengthen safeguards we don't tear them down.

and what you are saying is deeply offensive because, again:

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FranticFrankie · 18/02/2026 22:44

It is not trans per se, verytall it is MEN who are the potential threat. You may believe transwomen are women and transmen are men but it does not make it so.

We are hard wired to be wary from an early age. There is a good reason for it as men do most of the assaulting, raping and killing. This does not change when men start to identify as women. It is borne out in reality.
There are posts- there's a thread on FWR, re "it will never happen......" that might be helpful? But I'd guess you don't read FWR?
Have you read around the subject? Seen any stats?

I assume you'd rather throw out the same old tropes, as has been mentioned above.
It's tiresome
It's offensive
And boring
Heard it all before

Verytall · 18/02/2026 23:08

FranticFrankie · 18/02/2026 22:44

It is not trans per se, verytall it is MEN who are the potential threat. You may believe transwomen are women and transmen are men but it does not make it so.

We are hard wired to be wary from an early age. There is a good reason for it as men do most of the assaulting, raping and killing. This does not change when men start to identify as women. It is borne out in reality.
There are posts- there's a thread on FWR, re "it will never happen......" that might be helpful? But I'd guess you don't read FWR?
Have you read around the subject? Seen any stats?

I assume you'd rather throw out the same old tropes, as has been mentioned above.
It's tiresome
It's offensive
And boring
Heard it all before

The last part of your post is much like the last few pages. I work in safeguarding, have done so for twenty years, with extensive academic study to do so. So I'll go with my professional, lived and evidenced based reality rather than a Mumsnet board.
I honestly don't understand what some of you posting on here want. A fully segregated world, seeing as all men are the problem and all men are to be feared at all times, according to several posters? Because there are countries where you can live like that if you want. I don't think you'll find they really have women's rights in mind though. As I said a few pages back, I'm happier in my reality and I have zero interest in joining yours, or any of the terf/GC or whatever term it is you currently use. It genuinely sounds a horrible, fearful place to live, under constant threat of half of society. Even this thread is depressing, so I'll going to do my best not to get drawn back in. Much like the police apparently advised Miranda, probably best we just stay away from each other

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/02/2026 23:18

Verytall · 18/02/2026 23:08

The last part of your post is much like the last few pages. I work in safeguarding, have done so for twenty years, with extensive academic study to do so. So I'll go with my professional, lived and evidenced based reality rather than a Mumsnet board.
I honestly don't understand what some of you posting on here want. A fully segregated world, seeing as all men are the problem and all men are to be feared at all times, according to several posters? Because there are countries where you can live like that if you want. I don't think you'll find they really have women's rights in mind though. As I said a few pages back, I'm happier in my reality and I have zero interest in joining yours, or any of the terf/GC or whatever term it is you currently use. It genuinely sounds a horrible, fearful place to live, under constant threat of half of society. Even this thread is depressing, so I'll going to do my best not to get drawn back in. Much like the police apparently advised Miranda, probably best we just stay away from each other

You don’t work in safeguarding. I’ve worked in criminal justice/safeguarding for over 20 years.

All the men in my life are lovely and as far as I know they wouldn’t at harm anyone. I don’t believe they should be allowed in women’s spaces. I don’t fear them, they just know what spaces to stick to.

That’s why single sex spaces exist.

It’s not kind to lie.

MirandainSouthwark · 18/02/2026 23:59

Not wanting male strangers in the female changing room doesn’t mean we hate men! We have a healthy wariness and yes, fear of unexpected men in what should be a female-only space.
Many of us had/have wonderful fathers, male lovers or husbands, male friends, brothers, uncles. These nice men also shouldn’t be in female changing rooms. And we still don’t want to undress in front of male strangers! Or see male strangers undress! And we don’t want any males in female sport or prisons.
Our position isn’t radical, strange or unreasonable.

oldtiredcyclist · 19/02/2026 07:06

Verytall · 18/02/2026 23:08

The last part of your post is much like the last few pages. I work in safeguarding, have done so for twenty years, with extensive academic study to do so. So I'll go with my professional, lived and evidenced based reality rather than a Mumsnet board.
I honestly don't understand what some of you posting on here want. A fully segregated world, seeing as all men are the problem and all men are to be feared at all times, according to several posters? Because there are countries where you can live like that if you want. I don't think you'll find they really have women's rights in mind though. As I said a few pages back, I'm happier in my reality and I have zero interest in joining yours, or any of the terf/GC or whatever term it is you currently use. It genuinely sounds a horrible, fearful place to live, under constant threat of half of society. Even this thread is depressing, so I'll going to do my best not to get drawn back in. Much like the police apparently advised Miranda, probably best we just stay away from each other

Yet you still keep coming back, to lecture the good women of Mumsnet, good honest women, who simply want sex segregated safe spaces - changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards, sports and anywhere else, where male intervention is unwanted.
This desire to have safe, single sex spaces, is not borne of hatred to anyone or any group, it is down to respect and common decency, something which you have demonstrated by your numerous posts, that you are lacking.

BitOutOfPractice · 19/02/2026 08:27

oldtiredcyclist · 19/02/2026 07:06

Yet you still keep coming back, to lecture the good women of Mumsnet, good honest women, who simply want sex segregated safe spaces - changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards, sports and anywhere else, where male intervention is unwanted.
This desire to have safe, single sex spaces, is not borne of hatred to anyone or any group, it is down to respect and common decency, something which you have demonstrated by your numerous posts, that you are lacking.

Oh the irony! There is only ever one side of this debate on mn that does the hectoring and lecturing! Most of the “good women of MN” don’t engage on threads like this because they are bored of it all or can’t face the inevitable backlash if they dare question the narrative.

MirandainSouthwark · 19/02/2026 10:17

BitOutOfPractice · 19/02/2026 08:27

Oh the irony! There is only ever one side of this debate on mn that does the hectoring and lecturing! Most of the “good women of MN” don’t engage on threads like this because they are bored of it all or can’t face the inevitable backlash if they dare question the narrative.

Question what narrative? I don't understand what you mean.

oldtiredcyclist · 19/02/2026 10:39

MirandainSouthwark · 19/02/2026 10:17

Question what narrative? I don't understand what you mean.

I didn't understand it at all. Very bizarre.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2026 11:53

Verytall · 18/02/2026 23:08

The last part of your post is much like the last few pages. I work in safeguarding, have done so for twenty years, with extensive academic study to do so. So I'll go with my professional, lived and evidenced based reality rather than a Mumsnet board.
I honestly don't understand what some of you posting on here want. A fully segregated world, seeing as all men are the problem and all men are to be feared at all times, according to several posters? Because there are countries where you can live like that if you want. I don't think you'll find they really have women's rights in mind though. As I said a few pages back, I'm happier in my reality and I have zero interest in joining yours, or any of the terf/GC or whatever term it is you currently use. It genuinely sounds a horrible, fearful place to live, under constant threat of half of society. Even this thread is depressing, so I'll going to do my best not to get drawn back in. Much like the police apparently advised Miranda, probably best we just stay away from each other

You'll find what we want tallies with what the Supreme Court judgment found re the Equality Act, and what both Westminster and Scottish govt overtly and explicitly accepted as the law.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2026 11:55

At this point, trying to suggest sex based rights are 'niche' is just a bit daft, I'm afraid. The majority of people agree.

Verytall · 19/02/2026 12:51

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/02/2026 23:18

You don’t work in safeguarding. I’ve worked in criminal justice/safeguarding for over 20 years.

All the men in my life are lovely and as far as I know they wouldn’t at harm anyone. I don’t believe they should be allowed in women’s spaces. I don’t fear them, they just know what spaces to stick to.

That’s why single sex spaces exist.

It’s not kind to lie.

I come across some arrogance on Mumsnet, but to declare that you know what my job is better than I do just because you disagree with my opinion, even for Mumsnet standards, is up there. Comically awful behaviour

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/02/2026 13:05

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ILikeDungs · 19/02/2026 13:51

Verytall · 19/02/2026 12:51

I come across some arrogance on Mumsnet, but to declare that you know what my job is better than I do just because you disagree with my opinion, even for Mumsnet standards, is up there. Comically awful behaviour

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Not really, Verytall. I mean, I have to agree with Accidentally. When I saw you claim to work in safeguarding many many pages ago I thought WTAF?

But if you do and those are your standards...well no wonder we are where we are.

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2026 18:13

All sorts of people work in jobs that are supposed to involve safeguarding.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/02/2026 23:08

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5492987-a-hill-you-will-die-on?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

A thread that shows sanity is prevailing. Every other post or thereabout is rejecting men can become women, and not hushed away to FWR.
Despite some posters stating it’s not an issue. It
clearly is. Refreshing.

A hill you will die on. | Mumsnet

Mine is --amongst others-- that carbonara should only ever be made with long pasta, none of your penne, or fusili nonsense.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5492987-a-hill-you-will-die-on?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 03:14

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/02/2026 23:08

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5492987-a-hill-you-will-die-on?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

A thread that shows sanity is prevailing. Every other post or thereabout is rejecting men can become women, and not hushed away to FWR.
Despite some posters stating it’s not an issue. It
clearly is. Refreshing.

Yes, sanity prevails on MNet.

Not just on that thread, but on loads of threads. We're a knowledgeable and sensible lot. Just look at the trans threads on AIBU and chat. Especially the ones with polls.

DifferentNameForQuestion · 20/02/2026 08:06

MN has definitely changed. A couple of years ago saying a man couldn't be a woman meant deletion or sent to a dark corner.

Now the majority are allowed to openly state that you cannot change your sex, sex is binary and men shouldn't be in women's safe spaces. Facts are winning through.

Hopefully, in time, this trans nonsense and social contagion will have had it's day and children (often autistic) will be given help to accept they are wonderful as they are and taking hormones to stop puberty, bind breasts and lop off perfectly healthy breast tissue isn't the answer. Parents, teachers and institutions will help children rather than tell them things that cannot be.

FranticFrankie · 20/02/2026 09:24

ILikeDungs · 19/02/2026 13:51

Not really, Verytall. I mean, I have to agree with Accidentally. When I saw you claim to work in safeguarding many many pages ago I thought WTAF?

But if you do and those are your standards...well no wonder we are where we are.

Hmmm, I get you @ILikeDungs
Academic study though: as we have seen before, academics have wide and very varied views don't they?

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