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Whites are becoming the minority by 2056Whites- are becoming the minority by 2056

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Thestarsmayalign · 14/02/2026 13:54

I read this ( not daily mail!) on MN -is this actually a true / statistical prediction?
I can send the link to the thread that stated this .
I have never heard this before . I assume that this is not accurate at all .( also assume applying to uk) .

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marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 12:20

pointythings · 15/02/2026 12:10

I think that equating 'English' to 'White' is well dodgy.

Would all those people doing this on this thread care to explain why they think you can't be English if you aren't white?

They don't even know what culture and traditions they think are at risk, they're definitely not going to know that.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:21

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 12:00

Can we dig into this perception of cultural arrogance here - are you saying you resent English speakers expecting Welsh people to speak a language they already speak fluently?

Not resent, no. I’m a second language (somewhat halting) speaker myself. It’s the attitude some have that they don’t need to try which irritates. My aim was that Welsh speakers wouldn’t have to speak English around me even if I sometimes had to reply in English or with English words. And I ensured my DD was bilingual by using Welsh medium education at primary and then bilingual thereafter. Many English incomers just carry on oblivious or even complain about the preponderance of Welsh in Welsh speaking areas. We aren’t very good at accepting dual language culture in the U.K. Parts of Europe are much better.
It’s not a race/colour issue though. Many Welsh speaking areas are less multicultural as they tend to being rural but a black Welsh friend of mine is a fluent speaker and her mixed race chikdren are first language (one appears 9n Welsh tv as a presenter). I taught plenty of Muslim children in that area who were able to speak English at native level and also learn Welsh. Many of them spoke 4 or 5 languages.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:21

ColdAsAWitches · 15/02/2026 11:55

Is that a joke? You're in a country where the head of state is the head of the church, and is one of very very few where religious leaders are automatically part of the government system.

I do get that. And that's because this is a very old country and our institutions are ancient. But realistically, what influence does the King have on Labour policy? And the bishops are in the House of Lords so have no real power to change anything the democratically elected MPs decide.

No what Im concerned about is sectarianism coming into politics via the election of MPs such as the Gaza Independents. I suspect there will be an increasing number elected in 2029. And the fact there is something referred to as the "Muslim vote" indicating they are voting on religious grounds. We can see from N Ireland that sectarian politics is not a recipe for peace. A great advantage the UK has is that religion was effectively kicked out of politics a very long time ago for all intents and purposes. I don't want to see it back personally.

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:23

RingoJuice · 15/02/2026 03:02

Do you not care that your children will become a hated minority in this case? Wouldn’t you do whatever you could to prevent that outcome? Or do you already plan for them to leave?

I was asked to show the examples of racial hatred towards white people on the thread, i was just giving examples that I had seen already.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:23

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:21

I do get that. And that's because this is a very old country and our institutions are ancient. But realistically, what influence does the King have on Labour policy? And the bishops are in the House of Lords so have no real power to change anything the democratically elected MPs decide.

No what Im concerned about is sectarianism coming into politics via the election of MPs such as the Gaza Independents. I suspect there will be an increasing number elected in 2029. And the fact there is something referred to as the "Muslim vote" indicating they are voting on religious grounds. We can see from N Ireland that sectarian politics is not a recipe for peace. A great advantage the UK has is that religion was effectively kicked out of politics a very long time ago for all intents and purposes. I don't want to see it back personally.

I think people calling it ‘the Muslim vote’ want to imply it’s being done on religious/cultural lines. I’m not sure that’s actually the case though.

pointythings · 15/02/2026 12:28

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:23

I think people calling it ‘the Muslim vote’ want to imply it’s being done on religious/cultural lines. I’m not sure that’s actually the case though.

I agree. There's no such thing as 'the Muslim vote' in the UK, because we don't have a political party with any chance of getting anywhere which advocates that the UK should become an Iran-style theocracy under sharia law. There may be such a party, I wouldn't know, but they are fringe. Meanwhile we seem to have an explosion of political movements which are all about white victimhood. So why are we not talking about 'the white vote', or 'the Christian vote'?

MaturingCheeseball · 15/02/2026 12:29

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:23

I think people calling it ‘the Muslim vote’ want to imply it’s being done on religious/cultural lines. I’m not sure that’s actually the case though.

???!!!!???? Er, have you looked at their mission statement? They’re not overly-concerned about potholes…

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:29

MaturingCheeseball · 15/02/2026 12:29

???!!!!???? Er, have you looked at their mission statement? They’re not overly-concerned about potholes…

Whose mission statement?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:32

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:23

I think people calling it ‘the Muslim vote’ want to imply it’s being done on religious/cultural lines. I’m not sure that’s actually the case though.

I understand some Muslim leaders are instructing their flock how to vote. We haven't really had a culture of voting on religious grounds so it will be interesting to see who gets elected in certain areas at the next election. They will be elected as law makers so that will potentially affect policy if the upward trajectory continues. Thats my main concern. I hope it doesn't happen.

Somerford · 15/02/2026 12:34

pointythings · 15/02/2026 12:28

I agree. There's no such thing as 'the Muslim vote' in the UK, because we don't have a political party with any chance of getting anywhere which advocates that the UK should become an Iran-style theocracy under sharia law. There may be such a party, I wouldn't know, but they are fringe. Meanwhile we seem to have an explosion of political movements which are all about white victimhood. So why are we not talking about 'the white vote', or 'the Christian vote'?

There is literally a thing called The Muslim Vote. Taken from the website: "For the first time, the Muslim community has united and is acting as one at the ballot box, and we've come well-prepared."

SugarPuffSandwiches · 15/02/2026 12:34

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 11:40

How is it that 'culture and tradition' is so important, but no one can name a single culture or tradition that is going to be lost 🤔

Exactly, why can no one say what traditions we have lost? If there were so many, you'd think someone would be able to say one.
I honestly can't think of multiple cultures and traditions that we have supposedly lost.

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:35

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 00:22

In every country, I do not care what skin tone the population have.

So it would be totally fine if Nigerians became a minority in their own country? Or Somalian? Or Japanes? Or Colombians? Or Napali? Or any other country? There would definitely be something wrong with that picture?
You do realise the white people are already a global minority at only around 15% why would anyone find it ok to reduce that even further, are white people so hated globally that they must dwindle away to nothing?

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 12:35

ColdAsAWitches · 15/02/2026 11:55

Is that a joke? You're in a country where the head of state is the head of the church, and is one of very very few where religious leaders are automatically part of the government system.

Compare and contrast our country and similar countries across Europe with countries governed with the religiously driven legal, justice and social framework of Islam.

bemoresloth · 15/02/2026 12:36

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:35

So it would be totally fine if Nigerians became a minority in their own country? Or Somalian? Or Japanes? Or Colombians? Or Napali? Or any other country? There would definitely be something wrong with that picture?
You do realise the white people are already a global minority at only around 15% why would anyone find it ok to reduce that even further, are white people so hated globally that they must dwindle away to nothing?

British people are not becoming a minority in the UK

AngryBird6122 · 15/02/2026 12:37

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 12:20

They don't even know what culture and traditions they think are at risk, they're definitely not going to know that.

Most of the non white British people I know (British born) would call themselves their ethnicity (Ghanaian, Indian, Chinese over English) even though they are British. Because they are proud of their heritage. They don’t call themselves English. I can only think of one that calls himself English (my dh) and he’s not white and his parents were illegal immigrants. There’s a difference between ethnicity and nationality. That may be why people are saying that.

AngryBird6122 · 15/02/2026 12:38

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:35

So it would be totally fine if Nigerians became a minority in their own country? Or Somalian? Or Japanes? Or Colombians? Or Napali? Or any other country? There would definitely be something wrong with that picture?
You do realise the white people are already a global minority at only around 15% why would anyone find it ok to reduce that even further, are white people so hated globally that they must dwindle away to nothing?

People would go nuts if it was the other way round!

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:38

bemoresloth · 15/02/2026 12:36

British people are not becoming a minority in the UK

But everyone on here is saying it would be totally fine if they were and that it would in fact be better. Pure racial hatred

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:39

SugarPuffSandwiches · 15/02/2026 12:34

Exactly, why can no one say what traditions we have lost? If there were so many, you'd think someone would be able to say one.
I honestly can't think of multiple cultures and traditions that we have supposedly lost.

Ive already said one. Secular politics. Probably the most important one.

AngryBird6122 · 15/02/2026 12:40

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:38

But everyone on here is saying it would be totally fine if they were and that it would in fact be better. Pure racial hatred

White people are fair game!

Somerford · 15/02/2026 12:40

bemoresloth · 15/02/2026 12:36

British people are not becoming a minority in the UK

The census data says otherwise.

AngryBird6122 · 15/02/2026 12:41

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:39

Ive already said one. Secular politics. Probably the most important one.

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Go to Saudi Arabia and try and live your life exactly as you do here. You can’t. Because if their cultures and traditions. Because yours are different. That’s our culture and tradition. Ffs. So dumb saying we have none.

@marcyhermit @SugarPuffSandwiches

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/02/2026 12:42

Poetnojo · 15/02/2026 12:38

But everyone on here is saying it would be totally fine if they were and that it would in fact be better. Pure racial hatred

I don't understand comments like this at all. I don't hate white people at all. I am white, and I don't hate myself.

I just don't care that much if my neighbours happen to have a different skin colour, and I don't feel threatened by the presence of people with different skin colours in our society.

How exactly is that racial hatred?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 12:45

pointythings · 15/02/2026 12:28

I agree. There's no such thing as 'the Muslim vote' in the UK, because we don't have a political party with any chance of getting anywhere which advocates that the UK should become an Iran-style theocracy under sharia law. There may be such a party, I wouldn't know, but they are fringe. Meanwhile we seem to have an explosion of political movements which are all about white victimhood. So why are we not talking about 'the white vote', or 'the Christian vote'?

We don't have one yet.

Whether we do end up having an increasing number of MPs elected on religious grounds will probably depend on the demographics of the electorate at the time of any election and whether they subscribe to religion in politics or not.

pointythings · 15/02/2026 12:45

Somerford · 15/02/2026 12:34

There is literally a thing called The Muslim Vote. Taken from the website: "For the first time, the Muslim community has united and is acting as one at the ballot box, and we've come well-prepared."

I've heard of the organisation. That doesn't mean they materially alter the way Muslim people vote. You're assuming that Muslims are a monolithic bloc of people who all vote, think and believe the same way. That is manifestly incorrect. I wasn't talking about the organisation, I was talking about people.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 12:45

cardibach · 15/02/2026 12:23

I think people calling it ‘the Muslim vote’ want to imply it’s being done on religious/cultural lines. I’m not sure that’s actually the case though.

If you listen to Muslims, that’s exactly what they are doing.

Anas Sarwar recently gave a speech to Pakistani Muslim leaders (that was leaked) promising them that they have now gone past being ‘new Scots’ , they are now The Scots (despite many being no more than first generation of Pakistani origin) and that they will have positions at the very top of government to influence law and justice. Islam has a very strong element of law and justice in its framework and they have very specific principles. Many of those are not compatible with Western culture - extreme homophobia, subjugation of girls, early marriage, first cousin marriage etc.

The group Sarwar was addressing wish to become lawmakers in order to change the laws to fit their culture and requirements.

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