Drinkers in Spoons

[TheDaringOliveNewt]

I'm away and at spoons having breakfast.

Every single table apart from mine has pints going, at 8.30.

Aibu thinking it's weird?

No one is saying morning drinking is a good thing. People are saying it happens. Some people are alcohol dependant. what are you going to do?
Tell them glorriiiaa on mumsnet thinks they’re vile so pull themselves together?

your link still doesn’t state why drinking in the morning is worse for your health than drinking at any other time.
If you’re alcohol dependant it’s irrelevant what time you drink. Drinking in the morning doesn’t lead to anymore risk of physical hazards than drinking at night.
These things do not make drinking in the morning, in itself, any worse for you than any other time.
now if you could make some argument that your liver processes alcohol more slowly at 8am, leading to proven liver damage risk, I’d be with you. But you might get more dehydrated?! Give your head a wobble.

I suspect you've a history or trauma around someone's alcohol misuse and I'd kindly suggest you see a therapist to deal with it.

Drinking at 8.30am isn't societally 'the norm' in the UK.. Purely because of the way our shops and jobs run. However I genuinely don't see how it's any worse than drinking at any other time of the day.

Alcohol isn't a good thing to ingest, full stop. The time is irrelevant.

I think this point has already been made re the day drinking. The men you see with their pints in the morning are nursing the same one for ages. They are not flinging back shots, and they are not getting drunk and rowdy. They have usually gone home by late afternoon.

Indeed. All of those posts seem to immediately assume everyone who drinks has zero ability to moderate their intake of alcohol. Why would someone be at more risk of dehydration and vomiting from one single pint at 9am than from one single pint at 6pm?

Excess alcohol consumption leads to those outcomes, regardless of when you consume it.

Yesterday I had a pint of beer at 3pm as we popped in to the pub in the middle of a long walk to escape a heavy rain shower. Pint drunk and rain tailing off, we resumed our walk and then went home. I drank no more alcohol the rest of the day or evening.

Gloriia’s language is revealing. “Enabling” is what is said about people who promote physical or mental abuse by a third person.

Moral, not health, judgement is at the heart of her difficulty with old men who drink beer and chat in Spoons of a morning.

Alcohol consumption generally is not great for your health, particularly to excess. However a lot of countries have a culture of moderate spread out alcohol consumption during the day rather than shoving it all in to a few evening hours.

Yes, binge drinking and the pursuit of drunkenness is particularly British. Public drunkenness is shameful in much of Europe, quite rightly.

Binge drinking was at least in part encouraged by restrictive licensing laws. The old blokes in Spoons in the mornings are continental and enlightened in their own way!

Yes I agree. The level of disgust is unusual

People always say this but It really isn’t. See the Dutch, Germans, Irish, Russians Christ the Japanese! Many countries have issued with binge drinking. The uk has been really successful at turning it around actually, compared to the days of the 2000s where people who went out and got pissed were made to feel like scum despite capitalism telling us to do it.

Here is a novel idea. Go elsewhere to get breakfast if it bothers you?

That’s fair. Many years ago a bar owner in the Canaries told me that the Scandinavians were the worst for bingeing because the beer was so expensive at home and so cheap there, and I’ve heard that since from others. And East Europeans are very heavy drinkers.

But I still think it’s true that bingeing was a problem here - even if it wasn’t or isn’t particular to Britain - but has much improved.

There is a lot of shame and generational trauma in societal binge drinking. It’s never in isolation an issue because people are stupid or uncontrolled.

But you didn't refine your query to Google to ask it if that's the only time you drink?

Lots of people who drink in the morning, aren't recovering from a hangover, they have done all their "daytime activities" already and will head to bed shortly after. I'm pretty sure a desire to drink at any time of the day can indicate alcohol dependency.

Re Dehydration... again, wouldn't really apply if 8am is in the latter end of your 24 hours period!

Morning eating on an empty stomach.... again, your stomach can be empty at any time of the day 😂 Good thing all the offenders of morning drinking are in Spoons for a big fry up then

It's probably all those people drinking cheap pints that allow you to get a cheap breakfast - which is why you were there I presume.

Spoons is all about the volume.

'Gloriia’s language is revealing. “Enabling” is what is said about people who promote physical or mental abuse by a third person'

'Enabling' can be used in many contexts. Here it is being used to demonstrate how some posters excuse, dismiss and minimise extremely unhealthy drinking habits. As seen repeatedly on this very thread.

Why do you keep banging on about “unhealthy” habits - assuming you mean physical health? I doubt you could care less about the physical health of isolated old men trooping to Spoons in the morning for Ruddles, nods and chats.

If you’re using “unhealthy” in the sense of morally bad habits, then you’re proving me right.

Because the drinking habits of a theoretical stranger are, you know, nothing to do with me?

that’s hardly enabling them is it!?

Who is less healthy - a guy who has two pints of fairly low ABV ale on a Saturday morning in Wetherspoons or someone who polishes off a bottle of wine over a Friday night meal at a high end restaurant?

Hey if you're necking wine at 8.30am that is up to you. It's not ok and it certainly isn't healthy but you do you.

The guy who starts on his allegedly low ABV ale on a Saturday morning probably makes it an all day event so he is the 'less healthy' one.
The venue isn't the issue so your 'high end' description is irrelevant.

Not Wetherspoons. They're very strict. They have a busy food service and ban dogs "For the comfort of all our customers". Also the rate of dog bites on staff was rising every year so they knocked it on the head.

@Gloriia again why are you so convinced all drinkers have no self restraint. I am perfectly able to have one or two drinks and then stop. This says more about your attitude to alcohol than other peoples I think.

Some nightshift workers do drink in the mornings