To think the sex of suspects should always be properly reported for violent or sexual crimes, the mass killer in Canada was male. That's important to know.

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

"Suspect in Canada shooting is identified as an 18-year-old with history of police visits to her home"

Is incorect. Women don't tend to go on mass killing sprees. Or rape many people.

https://apnews.com/article/canada-school-shooting-british-columbia-e577eb5689d1af42f6077a56368d4170

Whether they do or not, it’s not something that should be lied about, is it?

The killer was born male and his crime needs to be clearly categorized as a male crime against women and children. HE deserves no social politeness calling HIM by his preferred pronoun. I hope at the very least this crime blows up this trans BS of being able to change sex/gender.
Police failing on the gun front smells suspicious, I wonder if HIS family were litigatious and troublesome.

@Boomer55 statistics are important, because they influence policy and resources. For example, if there was a sharp rise in young women committing violent sexual assaults, then resources might be directed towards finding out why women were doing this, what was triggering them, could school intervention help, do we need more women’s prisons, what was happening to young girls that was making them violent abusers etc etc. If it turned out that it wasn’t women committing these crimes, it was actually men in dresses, then interventions aimed at women would be a waste of time and money!

Alec (Maya) McKinney who shot a lot of people, but only one died so maybe isn’t included in some lists.

@LVhandbagsatdawn

"C) The early reports did say a female in a dress. "

If the media believed the shooter to be a woman, they would have said it was a woman, not someone they believed was a woman wearing a dress. The ambiguity caused many of us to suspect the shooter was male long before it was announced.

Whataboutery. This is about the reporting of a crime, which remained inaccurate for many hours. It helps precisely no current or future victims of crime to mis-report and mis-record crime statistics.

I suspect that Gender Ideology played a huge part in this crime. Any sort of helpful therapy he might have had doesn't exist in Canada because the psychiatric sector must, by law, affirm a child's imagined gender identity.

He wasnt 'born male' he IS male

There are countless articles citing she, her, her mother, her step brother, she did this, she did that.

Outrageous. NOT a she.

This crime will be recorded in Canada as having been committed by a woman

Disgraceful

No, of course not. They'll never get over what has happened. It's an awful, abhorrent tragedy.

However, if we don't ask questions about the mindset of the shooter, we can't identify risks that might alert us to other angry mentally ill young men in the future. School shooters often talk about being angry, isolated, not part of society. Some young people who think they're trans say similar things. Don't you think its important to identify kids saying those things, and see if there are any other risk factors present?

How can you possibly know that? Do you know all the stressors in this young person’s life? You can’t have it both ways - saying facts are important and then making up a psychological profile.

@BigYellowBus it’s so unusual that a song was written about it.

The report I read yesterday described the shooter as a woman and only several paragraphs further down the article revealed that they were a biological man.

I heard this yesterday and immediately thought “I bet that this person turns out to be a male”.

What is the point of even compiling statistics if they're a work of fiction.

Its had the opposite effect on me. Women do sometimes commit horrifying acts of violence and now if I see "woman" I assume it is a man in a dress.

I'm in Ireland and The Journal, which is an online newspaper, reports the shooter "as a woman who was born biologically male“ ffs. Talk about confusing people.

And then the wonky grammar in the headline makes it sound like they "identified" as 18 years old!

Canadian school shooting suspect identified as 18-year-old as police revise death toll jrnl.ie/6953946

No they didn't. Once the facts were known then they were reported.

The public isn't owed the gender ID, skin colour, religion, or immigration status of a criminal instantaneously.

It's not a conspiracy.

Sit down and let the police do their jobs.

Jesus, how obvious does it need to be for you?

Its obvious.

Surely we're past the stage now and have learned enough now to say if it walks like a duck, its a duck

All this faux 'oh we dont know, we cant judge, we cant make assumptions, we need to look' Look at him for gods sake and the messages he left all over the internet as his legacy. Angry, violent, completely twisted, obsessed with the trans ideology, wanting drugs that he called 'HRT' that is a complete trans phrase because being male this was not 'replacement hormones' at all.

And it will all have been hugely validated by his family, his school, the authorities, any health services. All of it.

How many times have you read about a shooter being "believed to be a man wearing trousers"?

They knew.

The public is owed these facts, they are important. Not collecting or correctly reporting these facts causes more confusion. Governments cannot create policy unless the facts are accurate.

I feel the facts are constantly manipulated to gas light the public. Thats why many of us just don’t believe anything we’re told anymore.

@Boomer55 "Murder is murder, I can’t see why gender is important."

You are extremely misguided. Should the public be told to look out for a woman on the run when in fact it is a man in a dress? Or a redheaded man instead of a bald man? Misprofiling could allow a criminal to evade justice/capture and lull potential victims into a false sense of security. It could also lead to a failure of criminal profiling as men and women tend to kill differently. Male killers are more likely to kill strangers, use extreme violence and have sexual motives so misrepresentation will most definitely disrupt criminal investigations. Surely you can see how incredibly dangerous such basic misinformation could be?

Again, I come back to: the public is not owed all the details instantaneously. Even if the police knew immediately, it does not generate an obligation to immediately rush to tell the public.

Lord knows why it's so bloody hard to just let the police do their jobs and wait a single day - just one day - for the facts to be given.

I really do not think the victims families give a shit what sex the perpetrator was. Their loved ones are still dead.
You people are discussing whether the news sources are misgendering them. Wtaf
Shame

Firstly, that doesnt explain why some outlets are still concealing the identity, or burying that info at the end of a long article. (Also known as "doing a bbc").

Secondly, if the police don't wish to release specific information, they should say the identity of the suspect is not yet known, NOT provide disinformation.

Then maybe don't read those outlets. There are multitudes of media channels, I'm sure you can find one suitable.

if the police don't wish to release specific information, they should say the identity of the suspect is not yet known, NOT provide disinformation.

So you'd rather they lie than provide disinformation? It's an interesting position, I'll give you that.