Why can't women be charged with rape?

[Ourlovelyson]

My son attempted to take his life last year. Turns out his partner has been abusive and she was drugging him with Viagra being him aroused and sitting on top of him he kept telling her no but she did what she wanted to do. But rape is defined by the penetrating male, my son is not the person he once was.
I have been on Google for weeks and I can't find anything to help him. He obviously isn't the only one.
Why is this?

Yes it does, as it should.
Ghe cat rapists can impregnate women should be recognised

If you’re more concerned about the small number of men assaulted by women go speak to your MP to make life harder for female rape victims then if you want. But talking shite on MN is gonna change anything.

Rape with a penis against a woman has greater risks and worse consequences than other types of penetration. Like sorry you’re butthurt about this and the fact women suffer so much, I guess.

Anyway I’m disengaging, I don’t like liars and misogynists. Ta-ra

Although I will say this - it’s futile comparing two different crimes. But perhaps see it as a good thing that rapsists get so long in jail rather than moaning about it

I am concerned about any rape victim who is forcibly penetrated by something other than a penis or who is forced to commit sex acts, especially penetrative sex acts, on the perpetrator. The sex of the victim or the perpetrator is irrelevant to me, like it is to all balanced and stable humans.

Same. Except I also care about victims forcibly penetrated with a penis.

But I also recognise that being raped with a penis is different because it Carries greater risks and consequences

Never knew it was such a controversial thing to point out

Since you know rape in same sex relationships is a thing... in prisons... all institutions really...

I think about the victim(s) of this woman, for instance:

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/disgraced-cheerleading-coach-who-abused-33343735?int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

She should have a rape conviction alongside the other charges and should have a lofe sentence..instead she tried to reduce her 10 year term.

You keep presenting me with these stories like I’m not gonna be horrified. Of course I am, though I don’t feel the need to perform for YOU

I think you’re really really confused. I’m not saying female sex offenders shouldn’t be punished because they don’t have a penis. They should be, and are, punished. But it’s not rape. It’s sexual violence and should be taken seriously but it’s not rape.

Like I say if you want to change this talk to your MP. Start a campaign. Support a charity that support male victims of sexual violence. But coming into MN and telling porkies about what I have said will change nothing for nobody

That woman's husband supports her last I heard because people think that a woman forcing sex on someone, even a child, is benign. After all, she cant get anyone pregnant!

So what? Woman stay with male sex offenders all the time.

But I LOVE how you manage to blame women even when men fuck up. Great MRAing

It is rape in most parts of the developed world except here where British people want their to be a lesser charge where a penis was not involved so women like the cheer coach can get out and get back started on her grooming. After all, she will only probably make them.give her oral sex, eh? Not like a dick in your vagina, is it? You cannae get pregnant from that!

So what? :-/

That woman abused a teenage girl if it wasnt clear

You are completely grotesque int he way you talk about rape.

And no it’s not like being raped by a penis because men can’t get pregnant by giving a woman oral sex. Thats not saying it’s better or worse - but different

For the 5th time if you want the U.K. to be like other countries, spend your time doing something about it. You aren’t gonna convince me I’m afraid

And?

Yes - so what. What’s your point? How’s it relevant to what we are talking about?

If you think you’re gonna get a performance from me about how awful these crimes are, just for your benefit, you’re wrong. I don’t respond to people who fish.

If it isnt inherent better or worse, there is no reason for it not to be covered by the same offence. Please remember it is you who wants to break down non-consensual sexual acts and classify them according to what you think it more of a traumatising violation. The ones you deem worst, you want to call rape. The other ones, you want to be classed under the umbrella of SA so the perpetrators get lighter sentences and aren't deemed as rapists

Oh I do. And I know. Because you dont think a woman forcing sex from someone is as bad as a man forcing sex from someone. Even if that victim is a child. There is something very wrong with that line of thinking.

If rape is expanded to mean 'any forced sex', every rape charge against a man, the defendant would simply say, "no, it was SHE who forced ME". And guess who would be believed 9.9 times out of 10?

Rape convictions are already woefully scarce because the charges are so hard to prove. This would just be used in the same way that the 'rough sex' defence has been used in the past to flip blame onto the victim.

They can and do say that now. The difference is that the woman wouldn't be investigated for rape to find the truth. They would be investigated for SA if the accusation warranted it.

Again with the lies.

Why do you do it? Genuine question. Whats the point of lying?

So what.
Why does it matter to you so much that rape is not male-specific? It just screams of misogyny

You have made it clear here in this thread repeatedly.

Because people get raped by women, too. Women and girls get raped by women most often, in fact. As in, they are most often the victims of sexually predatory behaviour by other females. So I'd like them to be able to call their perpetrators rapists, too. As well as people coerced or forced into penetrating others (with anything) either anally or vaginally.

Females are more likely to be victims of sexual offences generally so any law changes that I am proposing would mostly serve them.