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To hate most men?

342 replies

Carlie97 · 10/02/2026 17:25

I'm not speaking about the whole male population, of course, but they're so pig ignorant. Sexist, bullish with disgusting habits. I'm currently sat in a cafe and a man, looks to be in his 60's is doing that deep throaty sniff in and sneezed so loud, I almost choked on my fish. Then there are the men who spit in public. Earlier I endured a man constantly sniffing on the train for half an hour. Women are like this too, but men are far worse. Enduring these men is a daily occurrence.

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BlueEyedBogWitch · 11/02/2026 12:17

Woodfiresareamazing · 11/02/2026 04:30

I can beat that.
My ex-husband had bowel/pooping problems (think constipation - but of course never actually went to a doctor to try to sort it out). He used to poop in the shower - I think he used to pull it out 😳. Bad enough, but how did i know?
Because i would get in the shower and there would be lumps of poo in there, in the folds of the shower curtain 🤮
When I pointed out how disgusting this was, he said it wasn't his fault because he couldn't see it - he had very bad eyesight and obviously didn't wear his glasses whilst showering .
It never occurred to him to put his glasses on after showering and clean up the poo!!
This wasn't a one off either...
Unsurprisingly that killed off all sexual desire, and then, eventually, the marriage.

Not all men, but too fucking many ...

That might be the most disgusting thing I’ve ever read, and he’s lucky you didn’t smother him in his sleep. The dirty bastard.

Jamba0 · 11/02/2026 12:33

Hm.... one small post is hardly much. Just wait when women start killing and abusing men to the scale you tripods are at it! Men are responsible for 99% of all grapes, child x abuse, murders, assaults, attacks, robberies....

movingthegoalpostsagain · 11/02/2026 12:34

Jamba0 · 11/02/2026 12:33

Hm.... one small post is hardly much. Just wait when women start killing and abusing men to the scale you tripods are at it! Men are responsible for 99% of all grapes, child x abuse, murders, assaults, attacks, robberies....

Yes, i remember reading something that said 'its lucky women only want equal rights and treatment and not revenge'

KnittyNell · 11/02/2026 12:35

HelmholtzWatson · 11/02/2026 05:30

YABU and you're a bigot.

This kind of thread is no more reasonable than one titled "to hate most immigrants/jews/muslims/etc"

Absolutely.
OP sounds awful.

wishingonastar101 · 11/02/2026 12:37

I agree - however I was on the train the other day and was surprised how many women were sniffing really loudly and watching their phones without headphones.

Woodfiresareamazing · 11/02/2026 13:14

Highlighta · 11/02/2026 05:14

Oh my god.

He shat in the shower! 😶

Looking back now do you also wonder how on earth you tolerated that?

Believe me, we had several rows about it! And I would make him go and clean it up if he hadn't already left for work.
But it wouldn't stop it from happening again, because he was "really pushed for time". Really? REALLY?!!

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:29

RetiredMan · 11/02/2026 08:49

I may be wrong, but I don't think this is true. As a retired man, I have never in my life heard or read men talking with hatred about women the way I often see women in this forum talk about men. Not even as a teenager in a boarding school where everyone I met gave zero fucks about political correctness.

I'm not saying that the OP or women in general don't have legitimate beefs, just that I find it ironic that women are always banging on about mysogny, when my life experience is that hatred of the opposite sex is 1000 times more prevalent in women.

(I don't think incel forums count as a counter-example, a valid example would have to be a forum that doesn't specifically attract people for the purpose of hate.)

In some ways I think this forum is the opposite version of an incel's site. It's a self-selected pool of individuals who agree with the central premise. Thep probably ( hopefully) wouldn't repeat what they post here to their son's..

movingthegoalpostsagain · 11/02/2026 13:33

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:29

In some ways I think this forum is the opposite version of an incel's site. It's a self-selected pool of individuals who agree with the central premise. Thep probably ( hopefully) wouldn't repeat what they post here to their son's..

Hardly the opposite - incel sites want to recruit more men into believing that women are less than human, only good foids for breading, deserved to be raped and not have the same rights as a man.

Most of the mums in here are sick of the way women in general are treated and want men to be better, more compassionate and less violent

movingthegoalpostsagain · 11/02/2026 13:35

And i have a 17 year old Son, yes i point out the horrid things that are in the news, the things that women have to deal with. I want him to be a decent respectful partner who treats everyone as a human.

I also point out how proud i am of him, his achievements, his attitude, the fact he is gentle, warm and kind and helps others. That that is what makes him a man, that is where his strength comes from.. not his hormones or his muscles

EarthlyNightshade · 11/02/2026 13:42

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:29

In some ways I think this forum is the opposite version of an incel's site. It's a self-selected pool of individuals who agree with the central premise. Thep probably ( hopefully) wouldn't repeat what they post here to their son's..

Do the men in your life worry much about being attacked or killed by women?
Or know anyone who has?

I don't find the snorting, etc in public specifically men-related, I dislike that across the board but I do think that many women have reason to properly hate and fear men, and even on a women-centred forum like this, people don't accept that.

UniquePinkSwan · 11/02/2026 13:43

yabu. I’d love to see everyone in here if Pistonheads started a thread like this. There’d be outrage

Dilly22 · 11/02/2026 13:44

RetiredMan · 11/02/2026 08:49

I may be wrong, but I don't think this is true. As a retired man, I have never in my life heard or read men talking with hatred about women the way I often see women in this forum talk about men. Not even as a teenager in a boarding school where everyone I met gave zero fucks about political correctness.

I'm not saying that the OP or women in general don't have legitimate beefs, just that I find it ironic that women are always banging on about mysogny, when my life experience is that hatred of the opposite sex is 1000 times more prevalent in women.

(I don't think incel forums count as a counter-example, a valid example would have to be a forum that doesn't specifically attract people for the purpose of hate.)

Misandry and misogyny are common on the net. People make bold statements online which may or may not reflect their true feelings. Generally speaking I’d say I bump into more misogynistic type posts due to women’s faces and bodies being a hot topic for criticism/ridicule.

In day to day life my own experiences strongly suggest covert misogyny is in the bones of British culture. So much so, I’d suggest that women are also conditioned to treat other women with contempt (at times). There’s also a global problem of male violence against women.

I’ve been in various jobs in my working life and experienced forms of sexual harassment from 16 yrs old and off and on through to my late forties. The more recent experiences were probably in part fuelled by perceived low status (mine)vs high status and gross entitlement on their part. If you want to see the predatory side of male behaviour, work alone in a low paid job. Sometimes working with others is no protection, either.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:47

@EarthlyNightshade I doubt many women I know live in fear of being attacked and killed by a man or a woman. I definitely wouldn't spend my life in fear of half the population but I'm sure there are some who do. As for snorting, the whole issue seems daft

EarthlyNightshade · 11/02/2026 13:51

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:47

@EarthlyNightshade I doubt many women I know live in fear of being attacked and killed by a man or a woman. I definitely wouldn't spend my life in fear of half the population but I'm sure there are some who do. As for snorting, the whole issue seems daft

I didn't say live in fear, I just said worry.
I very much doubt any women you know live in fear of being attacked by a women.
But just bear in mind that some women do worry about being attacked by men.

Stompythedinosaur · 11/02/2026 13:51

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:29

In some ways I think this forum is the opposite version of an incel's site. It's a self-selected pool of individuals who agree with the central premise. Thep probably ( hopefully) wouldn't repeat what they post here to their son's..

Women wanting not to be raped and murdered is not remotely equivalent to men wanting to rape and murder women.

Hence why misogyny and misandry aren't equivalent.

Stompythedinosaur · 11/02/2026 13:55

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 11/02/2026 13:47

@EarthlyNightshade I doubt many women I know live in fear of being attacked and killed by a man or a woman. I definitely wouldn't spend my life in fear of half the population but I'm sure there are some who do. As for snorting, the whole issue seems daft

I disagree, I just think women are so used to the threat it seems normal.

Young women planning how to safely get home after a night out so no one is left alone.

Every woman who's ever taken their headphones off or walked with their keys between their fingers just in case.

The fact that I have had to talk to my teenage daughters about "shout fire, don't shout help" and "don't let them take you to a second location".

Women live under threat all of the time.

LongTermLurker · 11/02/2026 14:08

I've recently turned 50 and it's frankly distressing how wide open my eyes are now to how awful so many men are.

Warning - this is upsetting, about rape, please scroll past if you need to..

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I had one particular realisation about how rape is used as a war tactic, over the course of millennia, and around the globe. Obviously I've always thought it was horrific, but something really clicked about how many men have raped women with the express purpose of torturing them. It's like, I can imagine someone being so full of hate that they would torture someone, but this form of torture requires them to be physically turned on by it. I suddenly realised how this is so utterly alien to me. I mean, (if I'm being really honest) if I was so consumed with hate, maybe I could imagine torturing someone .. But would I get turned on by that? No!!

BeaRightThere · 11/02/2026 14:13

Jamba0 · 11/02/2026 12:33

Hm.... one small post is hardly much. Just wait when women start killing and abusing men to the scale you tripods are at it! Men are responsible for 99% of all grapes, child x abuse, murders, assaults, attacks, robberies....

Use adult language FFS. And "tripods"?

The misandry on this site is depressing.

Carlie97 · 11/02/2026 14:15

ByWarmShark · 11/02/2026 08:41

You can't post a title like "hate most men" and then try to argue that you're not stereotyping a whole group. Of course you are and it's not cricket. The men I know are lovely- my school and uni friends are happily married to the women they've been with for decades, my male relatives are lovely and caring, my husband is an annoying good egg, my son's make me cry with happiness and would never be as unkind and bitchy as you. What if i said i hate most women because i hate a lot of the mumsnet bitchiness and inability to accept differences? You can fuck off with your polarisation and stereotyping.

I said not all men, so think what you want, and you can fuck the fuck off too.

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UncannyFanny · 11/02/2026 14:15

I’m just trying to picture the replies on a thread titled AIBU to hate most women… yeah, I think I can see how that would work out.

UncannyFanny · 11/02/2026 14:16

Carlie97 · 11/02/2026 14:15

I said not all men, so think what you want, and you can fuck the fuck off too.

You said most men.

BeaRightThere · 11/02/2026 14:19

Sweetiedarling7 · 11/02/2026 07:29

One of the numerous reasons I never had children was because of the possibility of having a boy so I for one would totally understand the disappointment.

This is such a vile and warped way to view the world. Utterly sickening.

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BeaRightThere · 11/02/2026 14:24

UncannyFanny · 11/02/2026 14:15

I’m just trying to picture the replies on a thread titled AIBU to hate most women… yeah, I think I can see how that would work out.

I actually read a very interesting piece recently in which a woman described how she lived for year with intense misandry. She said it was remarkable that she could say truly horrific stuff about men and no one would ever challenge her. It was only when she started therapy and went on medication for (I think) anxiety that she began to realise it.

I think many women here say things about men which they would never tolerate about any other group of people. They certainly object to even the slightest criticism of women. But at least once a week there is a thread exactly like this one encouraging people to post hate.

Honestly this site is becoming a very miserable and depressing place to spend time.

Luckyingame · 11/02/2026 14:26

OonaStubbs · 11/02/2026 10:50

Honestly I think men have been rendered obsolete by evolution. We should just get rid of them except for a few who could be kept in captivity so that their sperm can be extracted for breeding purposes.
The world would be a much happier and productive place if it was populated entirely by women.

This came to my mind couple of times 😁

dannyufcfan · 11/02/2026 14:27

Unhinged thread.