Lucy letby

[bloomingbonkerz]

Do you think she did it ? Watched the documentary and I’m not sure she should have been convicted

The fact that he knows what he’s talking about.

Do you understand about how some ‘experts’ have expertise, experience and intelligence, recognised by their profession internationally, and others are just people with lower level qualifications who have put themselves forward for money?

And you think the prosecution and other medical experts didn’t know what they were talking about?

For someone who followed the trial you have a very naive view of what evidence being ‘tested in court’ amounts to.

You think Evans did? 😂

Like the doctor who lied under oath claiming LL had not called for his help and said she was just standing over a baby doing nothing, or the doctor who didn't own up to puncturing the liver with a needle, or the doctor who didn't own up to misplacing an et tube.

The test is whether it was proven that a murder happened, not that it didn’t.

It was not brought up in court that they were in chronological order, this is something alleged in the Netflix documentary. In addition, they were stored in I think three locations, and only a small number, comparatively were pertinent to the indictment babies.

Honestly, every time people point out the glaring issues with the medical evidence and the whole trial, someone has to bleat "handover sheets" like it's a magickal mantra. The handover sheets are not the crux of the case.

This case is about babies failed spectacularly by sub-standard care, and the three ring circus their parents have had to endure thanks to ten minute wonder Evans, and others with terrifyingly tunnel vision. All of which has dire implications for the state of our justice system and our healthcare system. This is what we're most concerned about.

Some idiots do.

I see occupational therapy have complained that Mark Macdonald has misused the word in the docu. It should have been occupational health.

I will say again some units put an askerisk if you were in charge on shift. Something that you might want to remind yourself of so you were prepared, especially someone who was conscientious.
they thought the LD was babies initials but it was her shift for that day LD= long day.

I thought it was hilarious when I saw people online - not here to be fair - acting as if mixing up occupational health and occupational therapy was a clue to a major character flaw!

I guess the organisation found it pertinent enough to post about it.

But the jury was told that there were no plausible alternative explanations. If they hadn't been told that, it seems likely they wouldn't have believed that Lucy Letby must have committed clever invisible murders.

I don't think I would like my Doc/ nurse/ practioner to have my initials or my childs in their personal diary next to salsa and a dinner date .

On its own not indicative of wrong doing but unethical and a bit creepy. Would be for me and anyone I have spoken to about it anyway.

Did you know that HCPs have their own "code" when communicating with each other to indicate how they feel about their patients? Whether they consider them hypochondriacs, or challenging etc ?

Sure they do. I still wouldn't want my initials in their personal diary.

Agree Countess, and its also amazing that people who keep repeating that she was found guilty seem to be able to magically ignore the actual fact that miscarriages of justice have occurred so that courts are demonstrably not infallible.

Only if it has identifiable info on it, name , address, DOB, hospital number. Most of the time we marked them as bed spaces why they were in, drugs due, obs due anything else task based.

@Firefly1987 But there was no chance he was ever going to say anything else right from the beginning. Never in a million years would he have been prepared to come back and say "actually we did find evidence of deliberate harm"-wouldn't happen.

Why on earth not?

He undertook the task on the understanding that the results would be made public irrespective of the outcome and LL accepted that.

I think some people have no conception that there is such a thing as academic rigour and integrity. They can only imagine people acting from self interest which I think says a lot about them.

I think they either forget or don’t realise that the first question here is was anyone murdered. Normally in a murder case there’s an obvious victim and the investigation is about finding the perpetrator. In this case they started with a suspect and had to find both victims and evidence she was the killer. And here we are.

But you all seem to think Evans acted from self-interest and didn't care if his evidence sent an innocence woman down?

Really?!
What if they are using an electronic appointments diary (more likely now) and your initials sometimes appear on the same screen as the salsa class?
Would it better if the adjacent appointment was professional training rather than something fun like salsa?
I suppose if you had really, really unusual initials like WYXYZ and it was an STD clinic you might be worried about privacy if they leave the diary lying around but I really can’t see what is unethical about information that is wholly neutral and non identifying merely because it is on the same page as an after work dinner date.

Well well well! So much for the expertise and professionalism of Mark Mcdonald that far exceeds the professionalism of her first barrister apparently 🙄

He spouts any old crap, what's concerning is that so many people can't see right through him. If this was a mistake from the guilty side the truthers would be all over it writing in to rant about how someone got something wrong. Will he apologise? He's of the same ilk as Trump so I doubt it.