Polanski is a buffoon

[Bertiebiscuit]

How anyone can take the Green party leader Zac Polanski seriously is completely beyond me. He has zero grasp of economics, beyond conning women out of ££££s by pretending he could hypnotise them to increase their bust measurements. He is the worst representative of gay men who worship the men pretending to be women, with no regard for womens and girls' right to privacy, dignity and safety. The man is a 24 carat buffoon.

Well we'll have to agree to differ, as I don't think that a load of autistic teenagers (or the odd middle aged person) expressing their gender identities is equivalent to hating women. And Zac Polanski being accepting of that, certainly would not stop me from voting for the green party.
We don't all have to vote the same way.

You can of course vote however you want. But in all likelihood, the more you learn about gender ideology, the more sexist and regressive things you will find.

Of course the gender nonsense is misogyny. Even if people don’t see it. It’s saying that biology - which is the root of why women have been oppressed for millennia - doesn’t make a woman, but “identity” does. And the so-called identity is ALWAYS steeped in depressing gender stereotypes that have harmed women. The notion that a man can “feel like a woman” - that a person who is part of an oppressive class can appropriate the very people they oppress - is utterly regressive and deeply sexist. The fact that those of us who speak up are told to STFU, called bigots and even have death threats made - is just a new novel thinly veiled way of telling women to pipe down about issues that harm them.

Tell me - can white people identify as black people?

He is shamelessly trying to court those voters trying to drag us into the Hamas/Israel conflict. I live in a city where many are pro Palestinian and they’re supporting his party solely based on this one manifesto promise of coming down hard on Israel. He’s vile and I hope for all our sakes he doesn’t get anywhere near number 10…

Have you actually listened to what transwoman think a woman is? Read their words. And these are not just any old transwomen. These have been published, lauded. One of their books is known as the “trans bible”. Now tell me that they don’t hate women.

Well hopefully when the waters rise all of the TERFs on here will be overjoyed on their biological women only rafts congratulating themselves on sticking it to the Green Party

As if voting Green will do a single shitting thing for climate change. They have moved on from environmental issues, have you not noticed?

I am a TERF and what wrong with a woman only raft? Heaven forbid we don’t rely on the might penis havers for rescue! The Green Party hate women, what do you expect us to do? Clap and sinker like good little wimmin?

And oh while you’re here - what’s a woman?

I hadn't noticed this, no - where are you getting this misinformation from?

It's still very much on their agenda from what I've seen and I agree with their environmental proposals. They are now also talking about other issues more like wealth inequality, yes, but the environment doesn't operate in a silo. In fact it's intrinsically linked to and part of inequality, both in the UK and globally. Poor people and women are and will be disproportionately impacted by climate change.

Also nothing anyone has said on this thread has yet explained why Zack Polanski apparently hates women 🤷🏼‍♀️.

You’ve obviously missed quite a lot of posts then

Hours later and page after page of asking what a woman is. I happen to agree with your views
But ffs move on, there are new, critical issues to address for women. Not just one topic!

I didn't see your post earlier- this is how I feel but I think you are wiser with your words.

Yes, but if they don't want to defend previous allies then the fact they are a major power is not relevant in that sense. If I find out that the cliff my house is built on is likely to crumble away soon I can talk about how my house is the only shelter I have all I want. And about how not having a house is no solution. Or how I don't have any house insurance and no other options. But that's not going to stop the house falling into the sea. At which point accepting a future where the house falls of the cliff and trying to make other plans is the most sensible option. Even though in normal circumstances just leaving your house is a crazy thing to do.

Trump has repeatedly signalled that not only does he not want to support Europe but he sees them as weak and directly opposed to American interests and values. And it's not just Trump it's Vance, Miller as well. And lots of Americans also buy into the idea that Europe has been freeloading of America and it needs to stop. That ignores aot of things (all the soldiers who died in Iraq/Afghanistan for a start) but it doesn't change the reality that that's how they think.
Continuing to try to placate Trump means European leaders constantly talking about how they failed America which isn't helpful to morale. Or worse, the risk of troops being sent to support America again in another venture because they're our ally/we need them on side. But it would be a waste because it wouldn't be remembered anyway.

Yes, no one said you have to do anything. But I’m not going to vote for misogynistic parties or people.

Climate change is another issue by people who are pragmatic/sensible in other areas are sometimes a bit blinded by. Theres a certain amount of hoping it's not real because that would be the best thing really. Personally I think

• You can't change your sex just by saying you feel like another gender
• Man made climate change is pretty much proven to be a thing now
• America isn't going to be a helpful or reliable partner now or in the future and it's best to make plans for that

There aren't any parties capable of holding onto all those realities at once unfortunately

This.

Yep, I will. You do you and get on the rafts with men pushing you off because you’re not as important.

Sorry, I meant to add Ukraine only dropped it's nuclear weapons on security guarantees from Russia, the UK and the US. They aren't in NATO but they were supposed to receive support from America if their territorial integrity was threatened. And since then have done pretty much everything America asked. But it is clear Trump prefers Putin's arguments and Ukraine is being backed into an impossible situation. So the argument really is
"Ukraine had a defensive pact with the US and now they are in war still therefore we would be crazy to leave our defensive pact with the US".

It's like if you know your husband is planning to divorce you for his mistress. It's awful and all but saying that you dont want to have to sell the house/give the kids a broken home etc isn't going to change matters. It's better to use the time getting, to quote an MN favourite your "ducks in a row" even if it's a much worse option for everyone.

No a memorandum assurance is nowhere near a pact hence Ukraine’s clear preference for NATO.

For President Volodymyr Zelensky, the answer has long been obvious.

“The best security guarantees for us are [with] Nato,” he repeated on Sunday.

The one thing he’d so love and would mean he’d not be losing thousands of young people posters would throw away. Madness.

Ok, but do you really think if Poland, or France or the UK or any country in NATO were attacked by China, Russia, Aliens the US as it is now would spring into action?
I agree, it was a realty extraordinarily useful organisation before. But if the US is disengaged then it becomes an albatross because they have a power of veto (though I think each country can choose how it acts of Article 5 is invoked), they have the right to command/control. America isn't the only country in NATO or who could respond of course. But in that scenario, if it's all the member countries responding except America why not just have a seperate organisation of those countries

And Ukraine won't be allowed to join NATO any time soon. The best they can hope for is some security guarantees with Europe (even if America brokers the peace) whether that be an agreement or European boots on the ground. Which is nowhere near as good as being a member of NATO in 2021 would have been. But is as good as it's likely to get. And that's true for all EU countries.

I dont want NATO to not exist. I just think events don't fit what I want. Maybe the best solution would be to remain a member of NATO but all Europe also make their own defensive treaty organisation. But that would be seriously resisted by the US because it doesn't make sense on paper to have NATO and then EU-only-TO within it. For lots of reasons that's messy. So they would be actively working to undermine it/block it's development.

At a minimum the UK should not be outsourcing defense to sodding Palantir.

I don’t mind what defensive line shaken as long as we don’t throw away NATO. Finland knows this too hence joining in 2023, even with a good defence already. Don’t do the opposite. And Sweden joined in 2024, so they very much do see it as good now.

I get the idealism of younger people who support the Greens and follow Polanski but the awful reality is the same age groups are put to fight first when politicians need them to.

I don’t want that and Zelenskky knows why he was exposed, no NATO and losing these weapons. “We could have kept a few dozen tactical warheads. That would have guaranteed security for our country.”

So to any young person or poster with young dc I’d get them to ask a Ukrainian of the same age what they think of any plan to get rid of weapons or NATO.

Shaken = taken

Great last sentence. Agreed. Arghh!

Are you aware of the Greens history with ‘trans’ ideology?

They employed an extremely young trans identifying male as an advisor and I think were putting him forward as a candidate at one point. This male, Aimee Challenor, employed his father as a campaign manager.

His father was caught and later convicted for kidnapping an 11 yr old girl, tying her up in his attic (where ‘Aimee’ lived and raping her repeatedly. It was a small house.

‘Aimee’s’ husband has posted child sex abuse on his social media.

He was a trans adviser for the Greens (and I think Girl Guides) and clearly many of his policies are still being used by the Greens today. They are spending hundreds of thousands of £££ defending indefensible legal cases where they have used his rules to expel lifelong members who know that people can’t change sex.

Thr Greens lost their focus on the environment a long time ago as they moved towards the Omnicause. ZP had a perfect opportunity to refocus on their reason for existing but has chosen to double down.