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I'm having some new noise issues with an invalid neighbour and not sure how to handle it

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TheFuturesSoBright · 06/02/2026 22:46

My neighbour has been ill for years. She has multiple health problems and is, I think, house bound. She's in her late twenties. She lives with her mum downstairs from us. We've known them both since we moved in over twenty years ago. Mum is lovely, kind and helpful. Daughter can be a bit difficult and prickly but not surprising as her health is so poor. We had one previous issue with noise (a one off several years back) and one incident of weed smoke coming up into our flat. Overall they are good neighbours and we get on well.

Recently the daughter had a health crisis and was in hospital for months.
She's recently been allowed back home. Here's where the issues have begun. Since being back, she's been using her bedroom, which is immediately below mine, as more of a living room. Before she went into hospital they spent their time mostly in the kitchen as there's no living room. I think she probably can't move around much now and might be confined to her bedroom.

The problem is that the sound proofing between flats is very poor. She is having people visit late into the night, they are laughing and talking loudly, or watching tv until 1 am. I've tried swapping DC into my room but he has autism and sleeps badly at the best of times. It woke him last night (he wakes at least once nightly already but this was an "extra" waking.) There seems no prospect of it changing as she's is unlikely to get any better.

What stops me just asking them to keep it down, is that they're not really being REALLY loud, it's just an unfortunate combination of them having loud voices even in normal conversation, very poor sound proofing between floors, and a difference in the hours we want to be asleep.

I had resolved until tonight to just put up with it, and hope the novelty of being home wore off (so fewer visitors) but tonight I could hear them laughing and talking when I was sitting in my living room, not only in the bedroom.

The sound carries so much. I've started getting anxious towards bedtime, anticipating the noise. When I get into bed my heart has started thumping in anticipation of lying awake listening to it.

I just don't know how to approach it with them - if at all. Or do I try sound proofing under my floorboards? I've heard it's very expensive and not very effective.

If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. We've had so few problems with this since living here that I just don't know what to do. The last thing I want is to ruin the current good relationship with them. I also feel really selfish because I believe she is stuck in the room - but I still need to sleep.

WIBU to ask them to be quiet in their own home?

OP posts:
TheFuturesSoBright · 06/02/2026 23:48

Absolutely didn't mean to be offensive.

OP posts:
TheFuturesSoBright · 06/02/2026 23:53

I've asked MN to edit the title now.

OP posts:
EarringsandLipstick · 07/02/2026 00:00

mumsickles · 06/02/2026 23:36

The word ‘invalid’ actually was originally used to describe as disabled person as ‘in valid’ as in ‘not valid’ in society. I am quite quite sure you have used this word accidentally and aren’t aware of this at all but it is incredibly offensive to many and I just want to tell you that. 🌷

This is incorrect. ‘Invalid’ as a noun is derived from the Latin ‘invalidus’ meaning ‘not strong’.

it’s entirely appropriate and not offensive, you are conflating it with the later adjectival meaning of invalid (pronounced differently).

EarringsandLipstick · 07/02/2026 00:00

TheFuturesSoBright · 06/02/2026 23:48

Absolutely didn't mean to be offensive.

Don’t worry, you weren’t being!

freakingscared · 07/02/2026 00:02

We used this to soundproof my son’s bedroom a few years ago and in his case we also put it up half the walls . The floor then had carpet on top and the walls had panelling on top . Worked very well

www.amazon.co.uk/BXI-Thickened-Sound-Absorbing-Panels/dp/B09KX46GWR

EarringsandLipstick · 07/02/2026 00:02

I disagree with other posters - making enough noise at 1 am that it disturbs your / DS sleep isn’t reasonable.

You should raise it, nicely.

The soundproofing is also a good idea, but it’s not fair for you to be affected by her socialising. I appreciate her life circumstances are hard, and it’s not like she’s having a party, but she will have to keep it down, certainly after 11 pm

Hicupping · 07/02/2026 00:07

I don't know if it's offensive now but I do know it's know etymology is not that a person isn't valid.

OP I used to live above someone with COPD, coughing every few minutes. Ear plugs were a must so you at least aren't sleep deprived. You can get Loop ones which do not completely cut off noise which might be better as you have a child to consider.

Newmeagain · 07/02/2026 00:16

EarringsandLipstick · 07/02/2026 00:02

I disagree with other posters - making enough noise at 1 am that it disturbs your / DS sleep isn’t reasonable.

You should raise it, nicely.

The soundproofing is also a good idea, but it’s not fair for you to be affected by her socialising. I appreciate her life circumstances are hard, and it’s not like she’s having a party, but she will have to keep it down, certainly after 11 pm

I agree with this. It’s pretty inconsiderate, when you know your neighbours can hear, to be making noise at 1 am. My experience of living in flats and terrace houses is that most reasonable people do take other people into consideration. The minority who don’t are the bad neighbours.

Also, soundproofing can make some difference but it doesn’t really solve the problem.

Maviaz · 07/02/2026 00:17

I think it’s fine to raise this and let them know it’s keeping you awake. Making normal levels of noise is fine within normal daytime hours, but people really should keep quiet at 1am! See also not standing in the street having loud conversations outside people’s windows, car radios, reving
cars at 1am.

DrJump · 07/02/2026 00:20

As you have previously gotten on well with them. Can you let them know you feel awkward raising it. But the noise past 10-11pm is bothering you. Let them know you understand it's the building issue as and you are hoping to get some additional sound proofing in the coming months.

OnTheBoardwalk · 07/02/2026 00:24

How can they just make a one bedroom flat into a two bedroomed flat by turning the living room into a bedroom? That's not how it works

ive paid a fortune for my soundproofing in my very first owned semi house. It does work but works much better when both sides have it done.

nocoolnamesleft · 07/02/2026 00:26

mumsickles · 06/02/2026 23:36

The word ‘invalid’ actually was originally used to describe as disabled person as ‘in valid’ as in ‘not valid’ in society. I am quite quite sure you have used this word accidentally and aren’t aware of this at all but it is incredibly offensive to many and I just want to tell you that. 🌷

I thought it came from the Latin for not strong?

rockingroller · 07/02/2026 00:31

I think that soundproofing is the way to go, if they are talking normally.

FrozenFebruary · 07/02/2026 00:36

EarringsandLipstick · 07/02/2026 00:00

This is incorrect. ‘Invalid’ as a noun is derived from the Latin ‘invalidus’ meaning ‘not strong’.

it’s entirely appropriate and not offensive, you are conflating it with the later adjectival meaning of invalid (pronounced differently).

This needs tepeating.

This is incorrect. ‘Invalid’ as a noun is derived from the Latin ‘invalidus’ meaning ‘not strong’.
it’s entirely appropriate and not offensive, you are conflating it with the later adjectival meaning of invalid (pronounced differently)

@TheFuturesSoBright it is not offensive.

MissyPants · 07/02/2026 00:39

The problem isn't your neighbour, it's the travelling of sound and the poor soundproofing. She isn't doing anything abnormal and I know you acknowledge this.
it's difficult, as I can see your side as well, but I would definitely look into what would reduce the noise building wise. I feel for her, she is young and housebound, so doesn't have much to do, and she obviously enjoys the company which will be keeping her spirits up. I also feel for you and your son, In the mean time white noise or ear plugs?

PinkLemonadee · 07/02/2026 00:40

alexdgr8 · 06/02/2026 22:57

Why have you called her invalid.
However annoying unwittingly she may be
Doesn't make her invalid.
Or do you mean she has extra problems from disabilities or health issues.

Invalid meaning someone who is disabled, not in valid.

GreenIsTheColourOfMyHoliday · 07/02/2026 00:45

NotnowMildrid · 06/02/2026 23:45

Yes, loudly at 1am when people are normally asleep.

Nothing wrong with living your life, as long as you’re not ignorant and affecting others detrimentally.

Plenty of people aren't asleep at 1am

They aren't being loud, they're just talking

It's not being ignorant to enjoy your home

FrozenFebruary · 07/02/2026 00:48

Newmeagain · 07/02/2026 00:16

I agree with this. It’s pretty inconsiderate, when you know your neighbours can hear, to be making noise at 1 am. My experience of living in flats and terrace houses is that most reasonable people do take other people into consideration. The minority who don’t are the bad neighbours.

Also, soundproofing can make some difference but it doesn’t really solve the problem.

As the OP hasn't said anything , the young woman doesn't know that the OP can hear her (&her friends)

@TheFuturesSoBright I would go down this weekend & talk to them. Just ask if they would mind not having visitors after 11pm & it being 'quiet time' because you really need to sleep & the rest of the time you'll do your bit by accepting it. (That's badly worded ' I'm sure you'll be able to word it much better)

but just go & chat to them, it doesn't need to be demanding or confrontational.

I would 'tolerate ' a lot with a neighbour who was in her position, but at the same time you need to sleep & visitors leaving by 11.it be quiet time isnt really a lot to ask.

DrJump · 07/02/2026 00:49

mumsickles · 06/02/2026 23:36

The word ‘invalid’ actually was originally used to describe as disabled person as ‘in valid’ as in ‘not valid’ in society. I am quite quite sure you have used this word accidentally and aren’t aware of this at all but it is incredibly offensive to many and I just want to tell you that. 🌷

This post reminds me of the news meaning.

I'm having some  new noise issues with an invalid neighbour and not sure how to handle it
BooneyBeautiful · 07/02/2026 00:54

OnTheBoardwalk · 07/02/2026 00:24

How can they just make a one bedroom flat into a two bedroomed flat by turning the living room into a bedroom? That's not how it works

ive paid a fortune for my soundproofing in my very first owned semi house. It does work but works much better when both sides have it done.

Some years ago, DP exchanged his two bed Council flat for a one bed maisonette. The woman who lived there had made the living room into her bedroom and her work colleague who shared with her had the bedroom. It's probably more common than you think.

FrozenFebruary · 07/02/2026 00:54

DrJump · 07/02/2026 00:49

This post reminds me of the news meaning.

🤣🤣🤣

maudelovesharold · 07/02/2026 00:55

nocoolnamesleft · 07/02/2026 00:26

I thought it came from the Latin for not strong?

Yes, it does. I wish people would stop trying to cancel perfectly appropriate words.

I'm having some  new noise issues with an invalid neighbour and not sure how to handle it
Ablondiebutagoody · 07/02/2026 00:59

Environmental health. They will come round, listen to the noise and if it is unacceptable, tell her to shut the fuck up.

5foot5 · 07/02/2026 01:01

GreenIsTheColourOfMyHoliday · 07/02/2026 00:45

Plenty of people aren't asleep at 1am

They aren't being loud, they're just talking

It's not being ignorant to enjoy your home

But I bet even more people would like to be asleep at that time because they have work or school in the morning.

And by the sound of it they are being loud even if they are just talking. OP says they have loud voices even in normal conversation.

Sure, enjoy your home. But if your home is closely linked to someone else's home, eg. a flat or a terrace, then it is ignorant to not give a thought to your near neighbours

RabbitsEatPancakes · 07/02/2026 01:10

White noise is great for blocking stuff out. Get a decent machine with a few different sounds and find one you like. We have thunderstorms going all night here