Keir starmer is dead in the water

[Bertiebiscuit]

The UK cannot have a prime minister who gave a plum job to a man when all the time he knew that Mandelson was still close friends with an ex-con who was convicted for trafficking children for sexual abuse. Starmer is destroying the reputation of the UK, he is an embarrassment and shoukd resign, if not the Labour party should demand his resignation.

That's quite a strange argument. You don't get a customised crystal ball the minute you become PM.

You do however get detailed reports from the security services that even the most naïve and trusting mid ranking underachieving public sector lawyer would advise it would be foolish to over ride ;)

Do you have a link to evidence that Starmer ignored the security service recommendations or are you just making stuff up?

The buck really has to stop with him.

If he thinks that's a reasonable excuse then he isn't fit to sit on the doorstep of number 10 let alone be inside.

Have I touched a nerve ;)

Starmer confirmed in PMQs that he had a report from the security services that raised questions. That's a matter of public record. His response to that was to ask a crony to quiz Mandelson on those matters (note, he didn't do it himself, indicating that knew there was the possibility it'd back fire and having a route to a plausible deniability response would be helpful), and then chose to believe the responses over the report.

The Prime Minister has admitted today that he chose to believe the words of a man who had a clear, vested interest in playing down his relationship with Epstein over evidence that they were close friends and that the friendship had continued after Epstein was convicted.

I'm afraid if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then the probability is, it's a duck

There were said to be two phases to checking Mandy's fitness. One was due diligence the other Developed Vetting (DV).

DV is about people's loyalty to country and vulnerability to being 'turned' by outside influence or what the Russkies call kompromat. It will deliver a binary Y/N response on appointability.

Due diligence would have shown he'd a history of lack of frankness and possibly dishonesty around money and motive hence being sacked twice as a Minister during his time in the Commons.

However if that's a 'known known' and can be mitigated for in appointing someone who would be a spot on fit for the job then you can appoint.

Bullshit have I defended appointing Mandy.
Find me one post where I say that.

It hardly should have taken Due Diligence for Starmer to know that Mandelson had been sacked twice from the cabinet. I knew that and I'm not a senior labour party official.

He's not fit to clean out Larry's litter tray.

This is the problem isn't it? Am pretty sure Labour said they'd clean up politics and cronyism and yet here we are.

The direct award is justified because:

”This is because MoD's data analytics capabilities use Palantir data analytics architecture that only Palantir is able licence, and which only Palantir has the design familiarity and technical expertise to fully support. Changing supplier for this requirement would involve rebuild of the underlying data analytics architecture needing support; reaccreditation of the new solutions at the required security levels; and retraining of MoD personnel; at significant cost (including to the current of level capability and interoperability with NATO and allied partners), diversion of resource, and disruption to in-train military operations and planning.”

We are already in deep and going deeper. I don’t see how we could ever decouple our defence from the USA.

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/083858-2025?origin=SearchResults&p=1

....and a fucked duck at that

So you agree that Starmer should go then? There are only three routes: 1) You think it was ok for Starmer to appoint someone with known close link to a Peado, 2) You don't think it is ok and Starmer to go, or 3) You don't think it is ok but you'd rather have Peados in high office than have the Tories.

I'm sure you will respond with some bullshit deflection.

If someone spoke to me like that, I wouldn't bother responding at all.

That would be perfect from this poster to be fair.

Who would you suggest takes over?

Careful what you wish for otherwise Raynor or more likely Milliband could be our next PM 😳😳😳😳

Bang on.

For anyone you couldn’t get through the link: https://archive.ph/3UmQu

So you did make it up & cannot provide a link to evidence that Starmer ignored the security service recommendations.

If you are going to be so insulting to another poster, at least learn to spell "paedo"🙄

Why pick on spelling FGS?

Lame.

Colour me surprised, nobby!

I know and Trump! The things in there about him are enough to have someone arrested and in jail for file. It’s weird watching everyone who loves reform Farage and Trump go on about Starmer and nothing about their party.

What, no blinds, PandoraSucks?

If all else is lost, criticise the spelling.