Vegan baby

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In your opinion, is it ok for a baby to be vegan from weaning (6 months)?

I didn’t say overeat on UPFs.

I simply looked at the psychological effect of declaring some foods ‘bad’ and forbidden.

Which can trigger preoccupation with food leading to bingeing, leading to purging etc

No

Of course its the norm/baseline, in the same way its the norm and baseline for many other mammals

We are omnivores, built for that, so our diet includes things which give us the nutrients we need. A vegan diet cant supply that easily (not for a child at all due to the volume needed) without supplementation.

Ergo by its very nature it is not normal for humans to be vegan. It can be adapted for adults and perhaps older children, with care about the diet, but almost impossible to keep a baby healthy without supplementation. That in itself is abnormal.

For goodness sake.

All dairy is milk but not all milk is dairy.

Human milk for example is not dairy. Dairy refers to an agricultural means of farming animals for their by-product, milk. Milk has since been extended to include almonds, oats but this is still not dairy although it is milk, in fact it is called milk but it is drunk by plant based vegans (or whatever you’d like to call it).

Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for calves. Humans have decided that they would like to consume another species milk and this does not make human milk dairy just because we farm cows for their milk.

Human milk is not dairy and is 100% vegan as nature intended!

The term 'dairy' isn't a biological term and doesn't mean 'mammalian milk'.

It means 'milk and milk derivatives produced by taking milk from non-human mammals for consumption by humans or a different species of animal'.

A kitten drinking milk from its mother isn't consuming a dairy product. A kitten drinking cow's milk from a saucer is. Milk drunk by a calf from its mother isn't 'dairy'. What makes it 'dairy' is when it's used to feed other animals.

Imho no babies and children need a well balanced diet which is very difficult for a growing body to obtain all the necessary from a vegan diet exclusively especially as they tend to pick and choose what they eat as they start to feed themselves

It isn't normal for humans to drink another species' milk. In fact, when you think about it, it's just plain weird.
Humans are not designed to eat or properly digest meat, our closest relatives, gorillas, are herbivores. Our digestive tracts are far too long.
Animal products are not essential for optimal health and in fact cause many dietary related issues including intolerances, food poisoning and digestive cancers and other diseases.
It is perfectly safe and easy to provide an excellent diet for human babies, children and adults without any animal products.
B12 is the only vitamin we can't get sufficiently from plants, and this is because farming methods have irradicated it from soil ( meat eaters get it from the guts of the animals they consume) B12 supplements are recommended for all humans.

Oh such rubbish really, dont spout this stuff

Humans are designed to make use of the resources around us, its completely normal for us to have harvested and orchestrated the animal world and plant world to our benefit, its how we have survived

Babies will need significant supplementation on a vegan diet, not just B12, its irresponsible to minimise this, OP can go well ahead and do what she likes but she must follow the correct advice not this magical thinking that you set out

Not all humans need B12 supplements at all.

My comments are more directed towards the OP who seems to think she's feeding her baby dairy free milk cause she's vegan 😂
Yet she says she knows how to make sure her baby gets everything they need nutrition wise after making such an unbelievable statement.

Magical thinking based on 30 years of research. What have you got?
Brainwashing from the dairy industry from the sounds of it.
And why do you have to be so fucking rude?
Go and gnaw on some bones if you must.

But she isn't forced to give up her milk or killed when she is no longer any use. I am not vegetarian or vegan btw.

Are we still discussing whether human milk is vegan?

They are definetly healthier than processed sausages made from red meat

I wonder what you ment is ridiculous?
I understand PPs post as saying cows milk isnt vegan, as in its dairy and dairy is not vegan.

I thought that Veganism was a dietary choice? Surely people aren't eating their pets.

That honestly sounds like abuse that should be reported!

No. It's not.

Not necessarily. It all depends on the ingredients of each and how they are made.

No it's wider than that - most vegans don't wear leather for example but not because anyone is eating their shoes. There is a sub category sometimes referred to as being a dietary vegan where the pets and leather thing isn't relevant.

Back in secondary school in the 1970s, we were taught the importance of amino acids. We were pretty much all meat-eaters in those days. I am a pescatarian now, but I do eat dairy, and have plenty of lentils and beans. I tend to swerve soy because too much of it doesn't agree with me.

And the protein, choline, b12, fatty acids etc etc. you know for your brain…🙄

Wow, what a charming potty mouth you are. Im not sure Im the person being rude. An aggressive disproportionate response.

Brainwashing is it, to know about human development and nutritional need?

Ive made no comment whatsoever on dairy.

This thread is about a baby, a baby can very very quickly become ill if malnourished. Adults can make their own decisions and take fairly quick action if their health deteriorates. Babies not so easy.

If you want to have a discussion have one, but this sort of tantrum is not very grown up

Neither is being so ignorant. Maybe do some reading.

Some mid these comments are insane- of course a vegan mother produces vegan milk ffs.
OP my kids were all brought up veggie and mostly plant based because I dont cook with eggs due to allergies. They had mostly plant based milks but some
dairy milk if we had it in the house. Anyway, all now healthy adults and were healthy active children. It’s fine OP just be careful to provide a variety of food and keep up with bf until fully weaned…stop worrying what people think, mostly of them have no idea about nutrition.

Totally random, but this has made me think...is a non-vegan mother's breast milk not vegan for her child to drink, then? By ethical veganism rules, it seems to me that even a non-vegan mother would have vegan breast milk, as the mother isn't being exploited for her milk?