to feel uneasy about what this means long term rather than surprised by the weight regain itself?

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I’ve just read a BBC article about research into weight loss injections like Ozempic and Wegovy showing that people who stop taking them tend to regain weight quite quickly.

I’m not shocked that weight comes back. That happens after most weight loss attempts whether they involve medication or not.

These drugs are increasingly talked about as something people might take for years or even indefinitely. That raises questions for me about what happens when someone cannot afford them anymore, when supply changes, when side effects become an issue or when a person simply does not want to stay on a medication for life.

If stopping leads not just to regain but to a fairly rapid rebound, it feels less like a temporary aid and more like something that is very hard to step away from once started. That sits oddly with how casually they are sometimes discussed.

AIBU to think the real issue here is not that people regain weight after stopping, but whether we are quietly normalising a treatment that may be difficult to discontinue once begun? Or is this simply the reality of managing a chronic condition?

I don't know, but that is what the studies have found.

There has been a variety of outcomes found from the results of the GLP1 clinical trials wrt muscle mass lost. The overall conclusion is not yet clear imo, and certainly the advice to eat enough protein and do some exercise is sensible for any weight loss approach. If you are older and already frail then that's particularly important if you are losing weight, with or without GLP1s.

And to me that’s the difference - there’s no logical reason to gain much if your habits and portions have changed by using WLI and you were still eating a fair bit on WLI , and it’s why I don’t think massive suppression for long periods is a great idea - because it’s not changing habits or diet in a long term sustainable way. Yes I have tried them, yes I did lose some purely by the fact I felt nauseous and had heartburn 4 days week so hardly ate, no I’m not on them now and have still lost weight by sticking to the principles, more water, more herbal tea, more protein, far less carb, far more veg and salad and as little sugar as possible - I realise now where I was going wrong before ( and I’m 64) - a lack of consistency that really needed months and months and months and although I ate well quality wise, my evening meals were way too big .

indeed. But all this stuff is only relevant to the people weighing up whether the risk is worth the outcome for them. If you are, as the OP seems to be, someone who does not want to use WLI's themselves, which again, fine I don't choose them either, why are they "uneasy" about the choices of others?

It’s curtain twitching at its finest isn’t it. I have made an educated decision on my health, it is supported by my gp; why any random thinks their views are relevant to anyone on them, when they themselves are not, either as not eligible or can’t afford and feel duty bound to obsessively post negative comments Just in case we are not just fat but also stupid beats me,

well it doesn’t; and I would be interested if the op and her fan girl posted something relevant, but everything they post is either totally unbalanced, or in relation to wider weight loss.

there is no comments to the macro benefits,nothing to balance the negativity. Our feedback is you’re not on them, you either don’t want them or can’t get your hands on them, sad for you in the latter case, but unless you post something balanced and remotely interesting, not just havering on about environmental impact, the impact of weight loss in general or listing rare side effects on the leaflets then we have a discussion.

everything else is spitting in the wind.

This.

My guess is that the muscle loss is directly related to rapid weight loss, the glp1s are an especially effective way to facilitate that rapid weight loss.

Agreed, but that doesn’t make it different to any other rapid weight loss programme. PP was saying it’s specifically worse on WLI.

Exactly this
I lost muscle and went skinny fat after losing the weight without jabs.
Everyone who loses weight whatever the method should do weights.

Yes. I mean if I were you I would leave them well alone

Just step away from them and dont let that person who is forcing you to take them make you do something you dont want to do.

Have you thrown them away now?

oh I want the laugh emoji have this instead

Two posters from the "How dare you discuss a downside to WLI! You are ignorant!" posse did engage with her briefly, later on

i have just checked back, i think you are referring to swing and I as i can only see our replies

if you are referring to me I would be grateful if you could point to anywhere i have said the above, as ive said exactly the opposite

unless you belong to the OP school of thought which seems to be ‘ i will twist everything said to me’ i am hoping not

Yes!
It IS worse on WLI.
But only because WLI allows for much greater weight loss in a short space of time than other methods.

Huh? Allows it v what? Plenty of ways to lose weight rapidly and the prescribers of the drugs are very clear, lose 1-2lbs a week which most do, if you lose too fast they stop prescribing.

yup, there are also warnings about getting gallstones but its the speed of the weightloss, not the use of WLI. Anybody who loses weight quickly by any method risks the same.

Not sure I’ve said any of the above either tbh!

Don’t think anyone said it, they just seem to be taking issues with anyone correcting inaccuracies, providing wider context.

so much of what’s posted is about general weight loss not specifically about tn4 jabs, I did chuckle at the posting of the rare side effects and raise an eyebrow at all the young people with colostomy bags due to the drugs.

youd not beleive it unless you read it with your own eyes, it feels like a deep seated all consuming envy of those on the meds.

Yeah i don’t remember you saying that…

hopefully weve got it wrong and that poster is referring to someone else

pisses me off when i write what i think is a perfectly understandable post and it isn’t understood 😀

Dd stopped taking it when her insta feed was full of people who had gome blind when using it 🙄

One hopes so, otherwise it would be the third time in as many days that poster has accused someone she disagrees with of saying something she didn't. Hopefully you'll get more clarification than I did when I asked.

Yes mine stopped using it when her insta feed was full of people who’s legs fell off when they took it.

One way to lose some weight, I suppose.

True statistic. 75% of people who lose weight have chopped a limb off.

I did try telling her that it would be all over the papers and mainstream media if it was happening at those rates

not the legs…

What were the side effects of those who use this method of weigh loss, please? What percentage of those who lose a limb gain that weight straight back once the limb is gone? I’d never use this method of weigh loss but I feel the need to comment on it, nevertheless.