To reckon that Reform will win the next election, and to be utterly terrified about it? 😪

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

i am a leftie

I think they’ll win

If don’t, they’ll have the majority in a hung parliament and govern as a minority party before joining with the Tories.

i’m going to tighten my belt re running my home and prepare for onslaught as the country becomes unrecognisable

Hope they do, can’t wait that long

Farage was a campaigner he wasn't in power so couldn't implement Brexit - that was up to the government to plan and make the best of the freedoms that Brexit gave us. The government was stuffed full of remainers who tried constantly to stop any progress.

In 99 days, Scotland has an election for our parliament. We have a form of proportional representation - you vote for a first and second choice. We have had 19 years of one party - whose avowed aim is to separate from the UK. Had not happened yet and is not very likely.
Many will vote against labour citing the months since the last UK general election, many will not vote conservative due to their last 14 years in charge at Westminster.

Some will vote SNP because they hate the English and cite events of hundreds of years ago. Some will vote because they sincerely believe Scotland can succeed independently.
A large number of voters are in positions which would not be adversely affected by independence. Some feel things will not be any worse under independence.

Some will vote Reform because they want "illegal migrants removed"
Watch and see how things happens here.
It is likely that Reform will get a lot of seats. Immigration is not devolved - so a Scottish government can do absolutely zero about illegal.or legal migration.

So in power have the SNP achieved their aim - no. Have they run Scotland well?
Would Reform achieve their aims in Scotland - no, not possible. Would they run Scotland well?

This is very concerning ⬆️

The reason why Reform is incorporated as a company is to prevent anyone trying to initiate a coup

Yes. Exactly. It amazes me that some people can't see the problem with this.

There is no way to get rid of a bad leader, and Farage is a mini Trump 😬

For all its faults, I still prefer democracy, thanks.

Or very Trump-like.... 🤔

Fuck all.

I don't think he really wants leadership. He enjoys being a cunt, that's all.

He would find an excuse to sell his company to the highest bidder quit at the first opportunity.

I doubt anyone in Clacton will be voting for him.

"He enjoys being a cunt, that's all."

Like Starmer then?

Really?

Did you think I'm a Labour supporter?

The accusation has not come from Trump himself. It has come from the opposition parties in this country who have discovered just what underhand methods this government is prepared to use to get its own way and betray the British people.
Did Starmer tell Trump that the US wouldn’t be able to keep Nuclear weapons on Diego Garcia under his deal? Was the president told about the 1966 treaty. You know, the one that said the Chagos should remain under British sovereignty while the US used the base.
The answer to both those is no. Starmer hoped the president wouldn’t notice. That is the wosrst sort of deception. Well now the President has noticed and he is justly angered.

You do realise don’t you that this government has done far more to crash the British economy than Liz Truss ever did.

Who are you talking about? As far as I know, David Cameron will never again be our Prime Minister whichever party wins the next election.

As opposed to the awful, corrupt, incompetent snakes we have leading the country today. Who have broken nearly every promise they made to the electorate before they gained power.

@DadBodAlready and now the same people who broke the country (the tories) have inserted themselves into Reform. Rebranded but still corrupt. Just look at what's happening on a local level if you want evidence of how crap Reform will be. 70k spent on flags and millions on a waste consultant in leics and Notts. On a national level they will be catastrophic. Labour aren't perfect but they were served a bigger load of crap from the previous govt than they knew about when they wrote their manifesto.

I might also add that the Tories stated aims during their time in office over Chagos, was identical to the deal Labour got.

December 2023
Britain will drop plans to hand the Chagos Islands back to Mauritius under a new strategy being drawn up by Grant Shapps.

Mr Shapps, who took office in August, is understood to have told officials that the islands should remain under British control, rejecting the international court ruling and defying the UN.

James Heappey, the defence minister, is representing the Ministry of Defence in a cross-Whitehall row over the islands’ future, while Lord Cameron has ordered a review of the plans in the Foreign Office.

“Grant is very against giving the islands back to Mauritius,” said a government source. “He and [Lord] Cameron came in, and said: ‘What the hell is going on here?’”

Their concerns are understood to be mirrored by the US, which believes the well-placed base could be compromised if Mauritius gained control of the islands.

Boris Johnson, the former prime minister, said in September that it would be a “colossal mistake” to give away the Chagos Islands, describing a government plan to “haul down the flag, casting doubt on a major Western strategic asset”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/01/uk-drop-plan-to-hand-chagos-islands-back-mauritius/

Rt Hon Sir Grant Shapps
@grantshapps
As Defence Secretary I was so concerned about the sovereignty of the Chagos Islands that I blocked the deal from proceeding.
Today, this government has announced it's abandoned our sovereignty of the Archipelago, including the militarily essential Diego Garcia. The government's joint statement fails to address FOUR urgent questions: 1. What happens after 99 years and specifically, is renewal then automatic? If not, then Starmer has just signed up to a Hong Kong style situation, which hasn't worked out well. 2. Exactly how much is the new rental payment to the government of Mauritius? The sums being demanded were both enormous and indexed linked. The government must release this number immediately. 3. How has the government ensured continued military use of Diego Garcia, especially since the location of these islands could be impacted by the Treaty of Pelindaba (also known as the African Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone Treat). 4. How will this capitulation help when it comes to protecting other British assets like Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands and our two Sovereign Bases in Cyprus - all of which face varying levels of sovereignty challenge?
5:19 PM · Oct 3, 2024

How patronising!

Funny they haven’t succeeded.

Brexit was always a possibility but that wasn’t a seismic swing like this. You could see the “out” campaign was far more organised and concerted in their effort. The “in” side just assumed it would all be fine until it was too late. Plus you had idiots like Corbyn refusing to take a position and alienating most of his supporters.

Of course they have. Our economy is in a much worse state now than it was then. Taxes are higher, interest rates are higher, the national dept is higher and we are paying more interest on that debt. On top of that GDP has hit rock bottom.

A quick fact check -

Taxation for individuals is the same as it was in 2024.

UK (Bank of England) Base Rate

• 2022–2023 (The Hike): Rates started 2022 at 0.25%, rising to 1% by May and reaching 5.25% by August 2023.
• 2024–2025 (The Pivot): The first cut occurred in August 2024 to 5%. Subsequent cuts followed, with the rate landing at 3.75% in December 2025.
• 2026 Forecast:
• Rate Path: Further gradual cuts are expected, likely reaching 3.0%–3.5% by the end of 2026.
• Mortgage Impact: Fixed rates are falling, with some 2-year and 5-year fixed deals starting around 3.55%–3.75% in early 2026.

We’re paying less interest on the national debt than at its peak in May 2025.

GDP was negative at the end of 2023, its gown in every successive quarter since then.

Open your eyes, the country is already unrecognisable! How could it possibly get any worse?

part and parcel of democracy

Have you heard what Kier Starmer and the labour party have already done to the country? They are the definition of treachery and corruption!

personally id blame the general public for voting for these parties

WW3 (now more than ever, we need a level-headed prime minister, not a rabble-rousing loose cannon)

Rising sea levels and increased flooding due to climate change

Food insecurity due to climate change

Reform allowing US healthcare companies to buy up the NHS and hike up prices

The lowering of environmental and food safety regulations, US style, leading to the degradation of wildlife habitats and the increase of preventable illnesses