To reckon that Reform will win the next election, and to be utterly terrified about it? 😪

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

i am a leftie

I think they’ll win

If don’t, they’ll have the majority in a hung parliament and govern as a minority party before joining with the Tories.

i’m going to tighten my belt re running my home and prepare for onslaught as the country becomes unrecognisable

Well this government has not done so well so far and are ruining the economy so good only knows what state the country will be in 3 years time.

Can that happen? I thought there was something about tReform that wasn't like a normal political party, that it was a business or something?

Edited to add I've just had a Google and apparently Farage can't be challenged in the usual way.
https://www.open-britain.co.uk/blog/reform-is-a-business-not-a-party

The economy is doing ok & no where near "ruined"

Look at FTSE 250/all share indexes, UK companies, SME's doing better than ever.

Inflation is generally tracking downwards, interest rates 1.25 lower than in 2024.

Unemployment up but still, at 5%, way lower than the 8% we had under Cameron.... & we have AI, affecting jobs.

Sunak had 6 months of recession in Q3 and Q4 2023.... i expect you blamed that on "World Events"

As opposed to letting scammers run off with our money through false DHS claims up to £50 million, ripping us off on green energy contracts that tie us in for years because Milliband is too deluded to see it. Elect more MPs with their own set of rules to the cabinet e.g., Rainer and her taxes or perhaps Tulip Saddique whose facing imprisonment in Pakistan, or Racael Reeves and her fantasy qualifications. The list of party affiliates, councillors and MPs charged with offences is rediculous as Labour are supposed to be a party of the people, what people not sure when you've got convicted paedophiles in your ranks. Our NHS is swamped, anyone needing a roof over their heads is out of luck, benefit payments are through the roof, taxation is the highest its been and if that's not enough evidence not to support Labour or Tories how about millions going abroad to countries that can easily support themselves. We even support those countries vested in terrorism that would happily see us all dead. Some people won't be happy until they're penniless, jobless and homeless. They're called Labour and Tory voters. Wake up and smell the decay in society as the majority of our children have no future at the moment.

No. Given how many Tories have defected to Reform, it's pretty much the Conservative party, or to be exact, its dregs. They do not have a properly costed manifesto, nor do they have support at council level. They have proven quite spectacularly the cannot run local councils. They're all hot air and dismal failure. They also have a tiny number of MPs which is at least one good thing about first past the post/non-proportional representation. Their leader has zero interest in actually running the country or being Prime Minister because there's nothing in it for him. He's a rabble rouser who can't solve any problems, preferring to blame those in power himself. Reform and in turn, Farage are more potent as opposition, and will collapse in power.

There will be nothing left for a future government to work with at the next election. Look at the concerns apart from mortgage rates and current figures on recession. They aren't the only indicators of a healthy economy.These are troubling times for the fiture of UK if we continue on this path.

Why is it ? Please explain

I think the current Labour party has shown that a manifesto means absolutely nothing.

they weren’t going to raise taxes , remember? Nothing about id cards, letting out prisoners early. They were going to smash the gangs .

Open Britain is a pro European pressure group so it follows their views will be tainted concerning anyone holding a different viewpoint. The reason why Reform is incorporated as a company is to prevent anyone trying to initiate a coup. It is a private company therefore different from other political parties. It faces the financial regulator for any wrong doing in that sense and Electoral Commision for anything on the political side. This means that the name is preserved but also it has offered itself up to much more scrutiny by regulators than other political parties. Don't believe the propoganda that people post on the internet for any party. Do your own research before you vote. Don't let some shamelessly biased posting sway you. That's what Conservatives did for years.

I’m not a leftie but I certainly don’t want Reform!! Manifesto pledges should be binding. Outright lies on the campaign trail (£350m extra for the nhs🙄 for example) should be treated as fraud /misrepresentation and a criminal offence. Maybe then we’d get something we actually vote for!!

Mmm. Seems to me that all political parties suffer from corrupt MPs. Do we remember the press recording problems with the following? Or is my memory deceiving me?
Fiona Oluyinka Onasanya
Keith Vaz
Mike Amesbury
Charlie Elphicke, Imran Ahmad Khan

I’ll never forgive Labour if Reform get in.

Suspect Sir Keir is a decent human, but it needs to show. He needs to be nice to Sid & Doris Bonkers, the benighted working locals, consistently and loudly.

Who is the majority share holder in Reform UK Ltd?

Can Farage be voted out by members?

I'm not sure I'm a leftie, but I'm also in despair.

Farage is a fascist, who I believe to be at least a supporter of Putin (if not actually on the payroll) and Suella Braverman and Jenkins were in charge when our immigration system went haywire. Not to mention Brexit was Farage's big idea and what a mess that was. 🤔

I'm not that exercised about immigration personally, but my MBA ceremony was an eye opener when it came to open borders during those years. I don't think that inward immigration at 1 million per year was a good idea or sustainable.

Genuinely worried we are sleepwalking into a totalitarian state like the USA.

What is it you think he stands for?

I see him as a decent man doing his best to sort things out. I can't understand the level of hatred, other than the screaming in the billionaire-owned media.

The majority don’t approve, only 11% like him those who don’t will be a whole range of people.

Wow this thread is shocking
I am politically homeless / neutral, whatever you want to call it
I can see many many faults with the main traditional parties including those such as SNP or Lib Dems
i really have no strong preference

but the utter tripe quoted on here by reform voters is off the scale. I can’t imagine the level of propaganda across tv , social media etc they must absorb to have such a distorted view. Not on one issue, but across almost everything. I can’t believe how twisted things get. Even more so when you hear what Trump is up to, yet you still follow that path

i do understand more the voters who feel let down by the main parties. We’ve been in decline for such a long time, it’s crap. But I also know that they’ll be most impacted on average by what reform will do to them. I suspect I will be ok, I know I am lucky in many respects. But it really actually could and will get much worse under reform .As shown by truss, shown by trump, etc etc

I am torn , sometimes thinking we do need a stint of reform, just to show how shit it will be. But I don’t think we’ll recover from it as a country if they get in. And that’s really worrying

Now you know the fear a lot of us have been feeling since the socialists took over. Do you really think that Reform will be worse than what we’ve got at the moment?

It wasn’t Reform’s bus.

Only an ignorant fool would think that they are no threat to Britain. Unfortunately, that's all their supporters.

Blame the conservatives for not carrying out Brexit as those that voted for it wanted.

Claimed to have done. I applied fir the household support fund , my local council havd disbanded it.

I don’t suppose Keir Starmer ever lies does he? Oh yes he lied to the President of the United States about the Chagos deal. Just the latest in a long line of lies, distractions and obfuscations. Find me an honest politician and I’ll vote for him. In the meantime we have to make the best of a bad job and vote for someone who might, possibly, if we are lucky, effect some of the changes this country needs if we are once again to be prosperous.

So if the economy is doing ok, how come that so many businesses/pubs are closing down every week ?

Listen to David Bull, the Chairman of the Reform Party. ... they make total sense.... only if you put the UK working people first