David and Victoria’s press statement

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Where is it?

Will they even do one?

Has anyone changed their initial viewpoint on the whole thing?

And lastly….Team Brooklyn or Team Beckham?

So many parallels between BB and Prince Harry as well.

Im not sure its accurate to say 'selling your child's life'

They lived in the eye of the press as did many families at the time, the Geldofs for one and that also turned out horribly, Whinehouse is another, the royals of course Princess Di

He may have, and likely does have beef about that, and needs support with that. But a 'statement to the press' as if he is a statesman or world leader is nonsense. Deal with your issues personally, either with the people that you have got the issue with or your partner/friends supporting you

Katherine Ryan's podcast is excellent about this.

I think we’re losing the plot on ‘truth’ thing.

There is only THE truth & your opinion.

Young person growing up, meaning a child who lived through it, like BB

Their ages now are irrelevant, both these men feel aggrieved about their childhoods, they may have grounds, they may not but its about when they were young obviously

I think it's a sign of the times as well. Gen Z people are very much encouraged to bear their souls emotionally and to see 'toxicity' at every turn. They are very quick to cut their families out, go low or no contact and to declare that their parents are emotionally abusive, narcissistic and toxic, don't respect their boundaries, etc. They seem to lack the emotional resilience to work disagreements through, preferring to wipe the slate clean and walk away whenever they feel their 'boundaries' haven't been respected.

They never seem to consider how THEIR children will feel about public statements and this sort of behaviour when they're older. It all seems quite narcissistic.

Like it or not, if BB has children they will be able to - when they're old enough - contact David and Victoria as their grandparents and have a separate relationship with them. Given this very public statement, they may very well decide they want to hear the other side of the story. They may not be happy if they feel they've been denied a grandparental relationship based on Victoria not doing a dress / supporting a dog charity / dancing inappropriately.

There seems no capacity for thinking beyond the self or long-term consequences.

Oh well. Poor future kids, I guess.

Team Beckham

The worst thing to come of all this, is having Rebecca Loos back on the scene.

Who paid Fat Tony's wedding invoice?

I thought he was a friend of the Beckhams overall, would expect he was paid by the brides family though

I'm always faintly suspicious about famous family spats played out in public - it's difficult to assess what is engineered and how accurate it is

Ive been watching a few series about the tudors recently, the Beckham's come no where near that, nor does any modern family.

“Like it or not, if BB has children they will be able to - when they're old enough - contact David and Victoria as their grandparents and have a separate relationship with them. Given this very public statement, they may very well decide they want to hear the other side of the story. They may not be happy if they feel they've been denied a grandparental relationship based on Victoria not doing a dress / supporting a dog charity / dancing inappropriately.”

Except it’s not about a dress is it? Why so desperate to make it sound trivial?
It’s about parading him around for photo opportunities since the day he was born, and planting negative stories in the press about him and his wife.
And the hypothetical grandchildren’s take on this, is one of the weirdest things I’ve ever read.

NP apparently felt upstaged re: dance & VB & ran out of room crying. Fat Tony suggesting it WAS the first dance. VB instructed to put hands on BB’s hips & he sounds blindsided by it & Latin moves. Fat Tony has said her moves not inappropriate in themselves. VB called the most beautiful woman in room.

This was years ago…

Oh my lord - Allison Hammond offers to ‘mediate’.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tv/article-15491289/DJ-Fat-Tony-finally-confirms-EXACT-nature-Victoria-Beckhams-inappropriate-dance-son-Brooklyn-confirms-Nicola-Peltz-left-wedding-dancefloor-floods-tears.html

I meant 'young' when the damage started. Harry was 12 when he walked behind his mothers coffin & had to shake hands with a weeping public. It's clear to me that part of him is still stuck there. He also has clear grounds re press intrusion into his early life (only later muddled with his own waltzing with the press).

Now that would be worth a watch!

Having been on the end of a toxic, narcissistic mother in law who wore white to my wedding as she couldn’t bare not being the centre of attention (and we all guessed it!), I believe Brooklyn.

As for cutting the other family members off, sometimes people get caught in the cross fire. SIL is no contact with her Mum and DH was angry at her for a very long time and they were no contact for several years because of it. His Mum told terrible lies about her daughter. Truly painted her to be an evil person. Once he started realising his Mum is not a nice person and a compulsive liar, he reached out to her. It took a while for them to hash their issues out but they are on much better terms now.

He’s NC with his Mum and this has massively impacted his relationship with one of his brothers but what can you do. Until your eyes are opened to your toxic parents behaviour you believe all of the lies they come out with.

As usual it’s all my fault. The standard misogynist spew that it’s all the evil wives doing instead of understanding that there’s always a reason children go NC with their parents and they usually put up with their behaviour for years before they are done.

Fat 'show me the money' Tony!
Certainly maximising his 15 mins out of this sorry saga.

So you think bringing your child up as part of a brand, flaunting them online, summoning them to photo shoots, and making sure they can never be anonymous when you have the option not to is ‘good parenting’?

Where are you getting this from?

Which he can deal with, with them cant he, or with therapy or both. You dont need to drop a public bombshell, its manipulative and incendiary.

That is what the hypothetical grandchildren will see so Im guessing thats the reference, why dont you see grandad and nanny Beckham dad? And they'll want to find out themselves, which they now will all over the internet archive, which will NEVER disappear

Brooklyn snapped because of their continuous briefings to the press- the Beckhams are smart in the way they handle the media - it might look like his snapping has come from nowhere but he sees the press briefings, the manipulation - it takes a while to realise your own family are fucked up as when you are growing up inside it you don't see the badness, as Mum and Dad - who love you, are just doing their best. It's only when hes had a bit of space and has realised the source of his anxiety - to do what he has done.

No one knows how hard it is to cut off parents, I do - it's fucking hard and only done to protect oneself when continual contact has a damaging effect. They won't get him back - they are continuing as before, briefing the press - it's laughable people think they are 'keeping quiet'.

This is from the interview the DJ at the wedding, Fat Tony, has given to the Daily Mail (assuming their reporting is accurate). He states that Marc Anthony was performing on stage and called Brooklyn onto the stage. According to him, Anthony then asked for the most beautiful woman in the room to come to the stage, and then said, "Victoria, come to the stage". He then told them to dance and instructed Brooklyn to put his hands on his mother's hips for a Latin style dance - apparently Anthony is the top selling salsa artist of all time. Fat Tony says it was inappropriate and awkward. However, from his description, the main person to blame was Anthony. Even if Victoria hadn't gone along with it, Anthony had already humiliated Nicola by describing Victoria as the most beautiful woman in the room.

Agree. I’m NC with my parents. To the outside world they’re the ones who gave me a lovely childhood with a great education, raised me in a big house and took me to Church. Behind closed doors they fought like cat and dog, locked me in the garden overnight as a child so I couldn’t stop their (violent) arguing, my dad would punch cupboard and my mum would slap me and scream in my face on a regular basis. The police were called several times. After they split, my dad would leave me for weekends alone in the house at 13/14 so he could see his new girlfriend. My mum let her new spouse hit me and lock me in the house. Once I barricaded a wardrobe against the door to stop them attacking my mum; when I called the police my mum told them I was the one who was violent and ‘picking on her partner’ (I was a 7 stone teenager girl and very slight). Eventually she went through the criminal court system and they were convicted but I am still mentally exhausted from my upbringing.

My parents were only nice to me when I was portraying to the outside world a wholesome family image - when I was making polite conversation with their friends, or doing well at school parents evening, or remembering my manners when round at somebody’s house.

How do I tell people to above in casual conversation when they’re clearly wondering how my petty and ungrateful self could cut off my smartly dressed, polite, outwardly caring parents?

If you have nice parents, even ones you have a bit of a personality clash with but are ultimately good sane people, be thankful and please remember you have NO idea what goes on behind closed doors.

I recognise so much of what Brooklyn says. He may be workshy, he may be a bit dim, but none of that excuses what it sounds like they have done to him.

We really do not know. However, Does VB comes across as bad as Nicole within her circle dropped out friends? She seems to have issues and have sued quite a few people.

Your last sentence says it all. A heiress used to never being told no and made to feel special, gets upstaged.