Women and anyone with a cervix

[Zillyzillyzillymouse]

Women and anyone with a cervix is written in my weekly magazine. What absolute rubbish is this? It gives me the rage.

A person with a cervix is a woman so yes that is misgendering.

No it isn't.

This is all part of an ideology that really harms women.

Both by claiming that some men are women and the harms that has on women having single sex spaces invaded by men who claim to be women and the poor young women who have been led to believe that not conforming to gendered stereotypes somehow makes them men!

I feel deeply sorry for the young girls who have damaged their bodies as a result of this. Pandering delusions in this way is deeply harmful to them.

YANBU- it’s quite offensive.

No really. I think it's a standard of behaviour and nothing particularly extraordinary to be proud of.
I am quite pleased though that I don't let things which are completely irrelevant to me ruin my day.

This 100%

Cows, ewes, monkeys and giraffes all have cervixes. Also female pandas.

Some people value scientific fact and accuracy of language.

Some, it would seem, do not.

I know where I stand.

I’m sorry I was being facetious because I don’t believe you are tolerant of others beliefs or concerns at all.

That's OK. I picked up on your sarcasm and you are perfectly entitled to your beliefs. You can't offend me by what you think of me because you are a complete stranger who doesn't know me from Adam.

Some people should perhaps stop being so bloody tribal. Trans people have been around since humankind happened.

Gender non conforming people have always been around, yes.

That doesn't mean men have cervixes.

They weren’t called the gender they adopted but had their own designation.

Who would have an issue with “Winkte” (Lakota) - “men who live as women/ want to be like women”?

That’s fine, they’re not women though.

I agree, I can't get worked up over trans men being included as well - I mean, they literally say women as well in the post so we're both included.

Can’t see why that would upset anyone or do anyone any harm. If it makes trans men feel included then that’s fine by me.

This! It's always seem odd to me how transmen don't wish to acknowledge their 'womanhood'... but when it comes to medical procedure, they want society to acknowledge their 'womanhood' and that they 'have a cervix'. If they know that, as a biological woman, they have a cervix, presumably they know that, in that instance, they are being referred to, regardless of how they appear on the outside!?

But that language supposes that all women are female. In their bid to be inclusive, they are either going to get a lot of males claiming trans identity rocking up, as they believe they are women, or they are being transphobic and stating all women are female. That is where this mangling of language gets us.

How do you know? Do you have proof of Neanderthal trans people? Do please share. That would be very interesting I think? As they were all naked or wrapped in furs, was it the way they wrapped their fur that showed their gender or something different?

Exactly. The word women is perfectly 'inclusive' as it 'includes' ALL those who, biologically, have a cervix.
How they might 'identify' outside of that is really neither here nor there...

Because everyone is 'biological' apparently.
(Yup, literally, a real conversation I had with someone once 🤯)

Yes, sorry, I agree with this. Presuming the context was cervix related.

It is the most accurate though. I don't feel offended at the use of women but the fact is we don't all have a cervix.

Doesn't mean all women do either.

I'm a woman. I don't have a cervix. In your eyes, does that make me not a woman?