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Duncan Bannatyne says some men who use women only spaces are perverts

147 replies

EspressoMachiato · 21/01/2026 12:22

I think he's wrong.

I think any man who uses a woman only space (outside of the janitor/cleaners when there are no women present) is a pervert as soon as he crosses the threshold

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15477807/Former-Dragons-Den-star-Duncan-Bannatyne-brands-biological-males-seek-access-female-spaces-perverts-paedophiles.html?utmsfcservref=15438913&ito=social-twittermailonline&nscampaign=1490&utmsfpostref=655157407&nsmchannel=rss

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Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 15:29

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 15:00

Because they identify as a woman so will be dressed accordingly. Don’t be facetious. Also to the other pp. where is the evidence that a ‘lot’ of trans women’ are perverts. We clearly only hear about the scandal.

So what does dressing as a woman or identifying as a woman mean? If no one knows what a woman is, how can someone identify as one?

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 15:37

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 15:28

I cannot wait for someone like you to offend, insult (and hopefully get sued) for refusing access to a toilet to a woman "because she looked or dressed too masculine" or "wore too much make-up and looked like a drag queen"

while blissfully ignoring a male looking like what YOU think women must look like 😂

My daughter regularly gets called a boy as she looks very androgynous and has short hair. She thinks it’s hilarious. She isn’t offended in the slightest. And when people take a closer look it’s fairly obvious that she’s female.

Us girls look out for each other. The vast majority of women think it’s utterly abhorrent that men think they can waltz on in to our spaces.

TheKeatingFive · 21/01/2026 15:37

Any man who enters women's spaces when they know women do not consent to that are acting like predators.

I'd put it like that rather than what Duncan said.

Delphinium20 · 21/01/2026 15:39

Sadcafe · 21/01/2026 12:51

It truly is shocking how many places still have the baby change facilities in the female toilet, I’m not greatly impressed with them in any toilet, but appreciate some places simply wouldn’t have room for a baby change only facility, so, as a now a granddad,, when this happens, am I a pervert if I used the female toilet to change little one( I never have for context , will look for alternatives)

I think you’re a bit of a jerk, yes. At best, uncreative and unprepared. I’ve changed my babies on my lap, on a bench, on a lawn, backseat of a car, on a plane seat, etc. when needs must. You need to carry a bag with a changing pad, blanket and wipes whenever you go out with baby.

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 15:40

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 15:00

Because they identify as a woman so will be dressed accordingly. Don’t be facetious. Also to the other pp. where is the evidence that a ‘lot’ of trans women’ are perverts. We clearly only hear about the scandal.

Can we identify as toddlers and enroll for nursery? Can I identify as a pensioner and retire?

Blokes can identify however they like, but if they expect us to play along they can jog on!

You cannot seriously expect women to go ‘oh poor lamb, come into the ladies?’ You might be that daft but thankfully the rest of us aren’t!

Periperi2025 · 21/01/2026 15:45

LindorDoubleChoc · 21/01/2026 12:33

I am and always have been gender critical and I absolutely do not want men or transwomen in women's spaces, including the loos, but I don't believe all transwomen are perverts.

I agree, but the ones that aren't perverts are profoundly mentally unwell and suffering significant delusions, and whilst many mentally unwell people are of no threat to anyone (or nobody beyone themselves), some can be extremely dangerous. Any man in an isolated/ intimate womens space is a potential threat.

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 15:49

TheKeatingFive · 21/01/2026 15:37

Any man who enters women's spaces when they know women do not consent to that are acting like predators.

I'd put it like that rather than what Duncan said.

And women NEVER consent. Some may but the majority don’t and some cannot consent for the minority.

Bluebluesummer · 21/01/2026 15:54

If you had to make an estimate of the percentage of men who abuse women or children or both @ThatCraftySquid where would you put your best guess at where that figure lies.

I estimate about 20% that is based from victim numbers and self reported abuse from men.

That is a very sizeable minority of men. 1 in every 5 men you meet. That is why I want all males out of female spaces.

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 15:58

Delphinium20 · 21/01/2026 15:39

I think you’re a bit of a jerk, yes. At best, uncreative and unprepared. I’ve changed my babies on my lap, on a bench, on a lawn, backseat of a car, on a plane seat, etc. when needs must. You need to carry a bag with a changing pad, blanket and wipes whenever you go out with baby.

you changed your baby on a plane seat? Seriously? You are not "prepared", you are just rude.

And if we didn't need changing rooms at all, why do they even exist then?

Lilimoon · 21/01/2026 16:01

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 15:00

Because they identify as a woman so will be dressed accordingly. Don’t be facetious. Also to the other pp. where is the evidence that a ‘lot’ of trans women’ are perverts. We clearly only hear about the scandal.

If by scandal you mean sexual assault of women and girls, please can you share the number of scandals that you will tolerate? 1, 10, 100? Please be precise.

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 16:03

Bluebluesummer · 21/01/2026 15:54

If you had to make an estimate of the percentage of men who abuse women or children or both @ThatCraftySquid where would you put your best guess at where that figure lies.

I estimate about 20% that is based from victim numbers and self reported abuse from men.

That is a very sizeable minority of men. 1 in every 5 men you meet. That is why I want all males out of female spaces.

Great, but the issue is that some of us don't believe public changing rooms in shops are "female space". They are mixed in many many stores and it's a non-issue.

It's completely unpractical and pointless to pretend they have to be designated "female" areas.

In other places than shops, then we need at least a "family" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it option.

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 16:04

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 16:03

Great, but the issue is that some of us don't believe public changing rooms in shops are "female space". They are mixed in many many stores and it's a non-issue.

It's completely unpractical and pointless to pretend they have to be designated "female" areas.

In other places than shops, then we need at least a "family" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it option.

Off you pop to campaign for those then, that’ll keep you occupied. Good luck

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/01/2026 16:08

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 16:03

Great, but the issue is that some of us don't believe public changing rooms in shops are "female space". They are mixed in many many stores and it's a non-issue.

It's completely unpractical and pointless to pretend they have to be designated "female" areas.

In other places than shops, then we need at least a "family" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it option.

Where are you getting this idea that there’s no issue with mixed sex changing rooms from?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/09/sexual-predators-target-girls-mixed-changing-rooms-wrn-uk/

Sexual predators target girls in mixed changing rooms

Dozens of rapes and sexual assaults committed in sports centres, police figures reveal

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/09/sexual-predators-target-girls-mixed-changing-rooms-wrn-uk/

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 16:08

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 16:03

Great, but the issue is that some of us don't believe public changing rooms in shops are "female space". They are mixed in many many stores and it's a non-issue.

It's completely unpractical and pointless to pretend they have to be designated "female" areas.

In other places than shops, then we need at least a "family" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it option.

If a store doesn’t have a female space I’ll not try anything on in there. I’ll look at an item and if I really like it I’ll buy and try at home and bring back if it doesn’t fit. I’d have to REALLY like it to bother with that though, so I usually don’t shop at these sorts of shops. Which is why most retailers have single sex changing rooms. Cause a lot of us think like this and they know they’ll be out of pocket if they don’t provide a single sex changing area.

Why would you use a mixed changing room? The amount of people who are caught secretly filming in these places is huge.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/01/2026 16:09

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 15:28

I cannot wait for someone like you to offend, insult (and hopefully get sued) for refusing access to a toilet to a woman "because she looked or dressed too masculine" or "wore too much make-up and looked like a drag queen"

while blissfully ignoring a male looking like what YOU think women must look like 😂

And the mask slips. 🤣

You really do have a wild imagination but you believe humans can be born in the wrong body so totally on brand I guess.🤭

sashaymashay · 21/01/2026 16:09

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 13:06

but "women's toilets" ARE enclosed cubicles anyway? What difference does it even make?

Some women don’t feel comfortable sharing a room with men where there are multiple enclosed cubicles within that room. The set up of a women's toilet for example. One of the reasons for this is it could just be her and a man in there on their own in that enclosed room. This might be because;

  1. she has previously been a victim of sexual assault. 110000 women were sexually assaulted by an unknown male in a public place last year. And 5 in 6 don't report this, so the numbers are much higher.
  2. she may have been upskirted or filmed by a man in a public place. Cameras being left in toilets filming women in cubicles left by men are in the rise.
  3. she may be a woman who has a young child and sometimes needs to jam the pram in the cubicle and leave the door slightly ajar. This is fairly common for mothers out with sleeping babies.
  4. she may suffer from heavy periods or use a moon cup and doesn’t want to wash menstrual blood from her hands in front of men
  5. she may be constrained by religous beliefs where she can’t undress or be in an enclosed room with unknown men
  6. She may be trying to get away from a man following her or worse and seeking a safe place of refuge.
  7. most importantly she may just want a single sex space fir her own reasons
Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:13

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 15:40

Can we identify as toddlers and enroll for nursery? Can I identify as a pensioner and retire?

Blokes can identify however they like, but if they expect us to play along they can jog on!

You cannot seriously expect women to go ‘oh poor lamb, come into the ladies?’ You might be that daft but thankfully the rest of us aren’t!

I am not even going to start debating the trans issue on here. I was responding to the point that if it is not possible to identify if someone is a man or a woman theycan just use the men’s. I’m not daft. I’m also not cruel. Whether you like it or not there are some people you have genuine body dysmorphia, have lived quietly for years without causing any issues and are not perverts and deserve a little respect.

sashaymashay · 21/01/2026 16:14

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 13:16

out of curiosity, how do you even check if someone is born male or female - and is today a male or female?

In a realistic way, not going for DNA test or other nonsense, what shop will start doing that 😂

No shop ever did this before and everyone seemed to know where to go.
Unless you think some people don't know their biological sex and need someone in a shop to tell them.

😂

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:15

Lilimoon · 21/01/2026 16:01

If by scandal you mean sexual assault of women and girls, please can you share the number of scandals that you will tolerate? 1, 10, 100? Please be precise.

I don’t tolerate any rape or sexual assault whether someone is dressed as a man or a woman but suggesting all men or all trans women are perverts is nasty.

TheKeatingFive · 21/01/2026 16:17

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:13

I am not even going to start debating the trans issue on here. I was responding to the point that if it is not possible to identify if someone is a man or a woman theycan just use the men’s. I’m not daft. I’m also not cruel. Whether you like it or not there are some people you have genuine body dysmorphia, have lived quietly for years without causing any issues and are not perverts and deserve a little respect.

Whether you like it or not there are some people you have genuine body dysmorphia, have lived quietly for years without causing any issues

Well I hope any men in this position have not been using women's spaces as they cannot be certain that they are not causing issues for women who may not feel enabled to voice their concerns.

At least now the legal position has been made crystal clear to them and so they can be under no illusions. They should also be getting the psychological help they need.

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 16:18

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:13

I am not even going to start debating the trans issue on here. I was responding to the point that if it is not possible to identify if someone is a man or a woman theycan just use the men’s. I’m not daft. I’m also not cruel. Whether you like it or not there are some people you have genuine body dysmorphia, have lived quietly for years without causing any issues and are not perverts and deserve a little respect.

They’ll have my respect if they use the men’s. If they don’t, and they think that their needs are more important than women’s then they’ll have zero respect. It’s that simple.

TheKeatingFive · 21/01/2026 16:18

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:15

I don’t tolerate any rape or sexual assault whether someone is dressed as a man or a woman but suggesting all men or all trans women are perverts is nasty.

Does that mean you support women's legal rights to single sex spaces.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/01/2026 16:19

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:15

I don’t tolerate any rape or sexual assault whether someone is dressed as a man or a woman but suggesting all men or all trans women are perverts is nasty.

How does one dress as a man or woman?

Pinkertoner · 21/01/2026 16:20

Zuma76 · 21/01/2026 16:15

I don’t tolerate any rape or sexual assault whether someone is dressed as a man or a woman but suggesting all men or all trans women are perverts is nasty.

But this is why they need to stay out. There is no way to discern if a man in women’s loo is a pervert or not. The only way for women to feel safe is for ALL men to stay out, which is what generally happens. Then we know if there’s a bloke in the loo they’re a pervert. There is no need for any biological man to ever use a women’s loo.

Soontobe60 · 21/01/2026 16:20

LindorDoubleChoc · 21/01/2026 12:33

I am and always have been gender critical and I absolutely do not want men or transwomen in women's spaces, including the loos, but I don't believe all transwomen are perverts.

Neither do I, but I think you’ll find that those who aren’t most likely don’t use female only spaces either.