AIBU to think this is a bit nuts? Trans woman is being praised online for still working at 37 weeks into her "simulated" pregnancy

[CalmGreenEagle]

I have just read on Facebook about this transgender woman, Gabrielle Darone, aged 32, who simulated a pregnancy last year in order to address "gender dysphoria about not being able to carry a child". She wore a fake belly and simulated morning sickness, breathing difficulties, tiredness and other symptoms. She blogged about her experience and received a lot of praise online for still continuing to work at 37 weeks into her "pregnancy".

AIBU to think this is just crazy? Wearing a fake belly and pretending to have pregnancy symptoms is absolutely NOTHING like the real difficulties that women who are actually pregnant have to go through. Sometimes I think I am on a different planet.

You're just being a cunt now and I'm not going to engage with you any further.

Banned!! That’d be the least of your worries. You’d probably get thrown in jail!

So you can’t back up what you say? Very good.

WTF are you on about? Genuinely.

I already stated I originally called him she out of habit, and after reading this thread it made me change my mind.

"The 7-pound weight that is intended to press against my bladder does not hit me low enough, so unless I drink a ton of water throughout the day, I have less sudden urges to pee than a pregnant person would. Dealing with these limitations sadden me, because I want the whole experience, and I do not get to have it. I get bits and pieces, and for me, it is not enough."

And this is the problem. It's never enough. Never, ever.

A man in the grip of autogynephilia will escalate. It is the nature of paraphilias apparently.

I mean, there are quite a few women now, who can spot a pervy transwomen, with the fake breasts and the fishnets. But when is that not enough? Trying to dress like an objectified woman is no longer satisfying.

So what next?

Lactation fetishists are plastered across the Internet, it's not exactly a secret. Which is bad enough. Especially when La Lech League start to fucking accommodate them

But pregnancy and stillbirth??

For the love of God, not even the most altruistic, compassionate person would indulge this, surely?

Almost everyone here is saying it's mad. Which I agree with, but it's not just mad, it's sexual. Using women's biological trauma to get a boner? I'm almost speechless, which is highly unusual for me.

And for people to indulge it? I've come to the conclusion that it's not so much ignorance, as complicity.

Even if they didn't realise it was a fetish, they must know that it is really very, very crazy.

This fucking ideology never stops being profoundly disturbing.

Not engaging with me further aged well.

For the second time, you said ‘in light of new information, you changed your mind and had decided to start calling him he’.

What new information was this? It’s not difficult.

Proof, if ever it was needed, that this is a mental illness.

What a sick fuck!

Not a very welcoming place at the moment unfortunately.

Similar stuff happens elsewhere... people are very very frustrated after years and years of being pilloried for stating obvious facts that everyone knows and standing up for really basic and obvious rights, like being able to have a single sex space. I do sympathise although as I said before, we were all newly peaked and polite once. But yes, I think we shouldn't berate people who, for whatever reason, are new to it.

Thing is, even if we were all absolute cowbags to the newly peaked, we would still be right. Men aren't women, they can never be women, and women have a right to single sex spaces. There's no purity test for it. The most horrible women still has a right to spaces without men, even nice men. Not that any nice man would try to get into any such space.

Absolutely. We've had a dripfeed of exhortations to Be Kind and Pronoun As Instructed and Special Trans People over the years. It takes time to undo all that.

Worth repeating. I think I peaked back in the 1980s, but we're seeing @CalmGreenEagle peaking on this thread.

And I say, congratulations to @CalmGreenEagle Welcome!

Interestingly, there's no corporate headshot of him on the TUC page you link to.

I hated having to resign from my union because of their official policy of hating TERFs and TWAW sloganeering. But I see this sort of thing (and the bollox UNISON are currently coming out with) and I don't feel quite so bad.

When the op posted it, I assume it was from the meme that is doing the rounds. It seems hardly believable and I think people who are new to seeing such horrors are right to question it and fact check. People have provided a lot more context now and the discussion has moved in a lot.
I imagine quite a few people who have followed this thread have had their eyes opened.

I think the opening post gives more info than a meme. It still blows my mind that one would still be compelled to call such a person ‘she’. The OP wasn’t the only one. Shows the absurdity of gender ideology and add ‘trans’ to anything and it’s free pass central. We’ve got politicians still refusing to call rapists ‘he’.

Glad the OP peaked though.

Poor bloke needs serious mental help, not praising and indulging, that’s just going to make it worse.

Imagine saying to an anorexic, “yes, you’re right, you are fat, you need to run more and don’t even think about eating.” “Wow, you look so great, I can see all your bones, well done you!” It would be absolutely outrageous!

I partially agree with you, but I now think he has done too much damage to be deserving of sympathy . It should have been nipped in the bud long before it escalated to this.

This thread has now turned to pronoun discussion. The following is not aimed at anyone in particular.

Obviously, using the language that a group demands is a personal choice. However, choosing to comply with this demand was never was without harm either collectively to women and girls or, in some cases, to individual.

There are many examples of how this language has been harmful, including in sports activism, how harmful it is to use unclear language in law and policy, and direct legal and policy coercion to force people to use that language.

However, the massive issues and inconsistencies are getting exposed now. One of the major inconsistencies has been in the retraction of people extending that additional privilege of language when it comes to describing rapists and sex offenders and fetishists. Once the inconsistency is exposed, it becomes harder to keep it all clear in the mind.

Because if one male is not ‘female’ enough to extend that language to, how are any of the others? There are no biological markers to indicate a transgender identity after all. It is purely philosophical belief.

So, if one is not ‘woman’ enough because of their crime / fetish / misogyny etc how are any of the other male people who demand that female language be used.

It then brings up the obvious question, what other group’s philosophical beliefs gets laws and policy and emotionally manipulative forces to convince people to use the demanded language that doesn’t reflect material reality.

Once you start understanding these inconsistencies and then see the harm, I have found that other people’s attempts to shame me for not using that demanded language simply don’t work. I don’t have to act as if I believe anyone else’s philosophical belief when there is no materially real and proven foundation. Or even any logic to it.

If this man is not a ‘she’, which men are?

@Datun
On a relevant point to your post, the NHS after MONTHS of safeguarding complaints from the children of transitioners group and others , have finally this month amended their website regarding breastfeeding advice when a mother says she's a man. I wasn't sure whether to start a new thread or not?

They have removed ALL links to La Leche (a former womens' charity for mothers and babies (but who who now support drug and CSA of babies of transpeople through lactophilia- a male sexual fetish and porn category) and it's a lot clearer that breastfeeding (chestfeeding as the NHS still call it!) is for mothers only.

I understand from various medical links there are still loads of problems with the webpage, but it's a start. It's reported on x
by @ childrenoftrans
The NHS England website page is here, changed 9/1/26 :
www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/having-a-baby-if-you-are-lgbt-plus/chestfeeding-if-youre-trans-or-non-binary/

Thank you chariots. Wow. But is that link the before or the after??

They're still using chest, but they are at least pointing out the detriment of having a mastectomy or binding. So I'm assuming it's the after?

Edited to add that, I'm not being funny, but for the love of God, surely lactation specialists would be the first bloody people to know that there are men with lactation fetishes.

I can only conclude that these men, and their female co-conspirators get themselves to the top of some organisations, and they're hard to remove, or defy.

Bloody good that the NHS is not advocating for an organisation that's become the go to place for male sexual fetishists.

Yes it's the new version, changed this month/

There is always bat shit stuff on the Internet, get outside and breathe the air.

here's a 'biology in medicine' link to the old NHS version , and details of the some of the problems that still exist with it...biologyinmedicine.substack.com/p/nhs-chestfeeding-advice-is-harmful?triedRedirect=true

Brilliant. Children of transitioners is fantastic.

Gosh, how rude!

We've endured a decade on here of being called bigots for pointing out that men like this are a risk by people who are all for 'trans rights but' and you go from zero to the C word in one thread.

Perhaps this lady could be a surrogate for Tom Daley’s next child.. Or maybe she should get in touch with Owen Jones, I heard he’s looking for a woman to help him make a baby. .