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Stranger writes a note re loud chat in café, who is BU?

150 replies

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 14:56

Just read this online and it sounded like a classic AIBU so thought the good citizens of Mumsnet democracy should be allowed to consider.

'A stranger handed me a note saying I was speaking too loud in a cafe - it was mortifying' Metro | News story

YABU - Team green pen - talking lady is BU and should shh
YANBU - Team cat owner - note leaver was nosey and pass agg

'A stranger gave me a note saying I was too loud in a cafe - it was mortifying'

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/a-stranger-handed-a-note-saying-speaking-loud-a-cafe-mortifying-26306757/

OP posts:
cherrytree12345 · 19/01/2026 15:23

My DH and I were on a coach coming back from an airport and on the journey home the coach stopped at a university and 6 students (5 males and 1 female) got on and sat behind us. They were really loud and excitable, in the end my DH asked them to tone it down as we could not have a conversation. The males did as he asked, but the girl obviously liked the sound of her own voice and I was very pleased when they got off the coach before us.
Some people are not self aware at all

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 19/01/2026 15:24

I'm aware of that, but you're neither of the people in the cafe, so how can you be unreasonable or otherwise?

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 15:25

@TheRealMagic ha ha! How about:
They Are Both Being Yobs + Cafe Acoustics Terrible

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RandomUsernameHere · 19/01/2026 15:26

No one knows how loud she was unless they were there, but handing her a note on the way out is totally bizarre, regardless.

TheRealMagic · 19/01/2026 15:26

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 15:25

@TheRealMagic ha ha! How about:
They Are Both Being Yobs + Cafe Acoustics Terrible

Yes! And perhaps we also need to put some blame on the husband for publicising this all, and thus becoming a Person Unreasonably Rousing Reddit.

Wtfdoidoplease · 19/01/2026 15:27

I think the cat lady was probably annoying but anyone who writes a note rather than having a word loses my respect instantly. It’s passive aggressive and cowardly and looks quite unhinged. The green pen just adds to that impression.

Uchg · 19/01/2026 15:29

Some people just are naturally pitched loud/have a slightly strident/carrying tone that they can no more control than they can their gait. It's a different matter altogether than noisy screen watching and so on and they are free to enjoy public spaces same as the rest of us.

On the other hand purposely making a person feel uncomfortable via snide notes is deliberate and mean. It's not something most people would do and it's obviously antisocial.

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 15:29

TheRealMagic · 19/01/2026 15:26

Yes! And perhaps we also need to put some blame on the husband for publicising this all, and thus becoming a Person Unreasonably Rousing Reddit.

So true, he had his part to play, stirring all this up! My vedict - next time

Keep It To Themselves - Exude Nonchalance!

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ThatCraftySquid · 19/01/2026 15:36

I have just spent a few hours on a day flight in front of 2 boringly non-stop talkers, one being excessively loud. I would have gladly murder the 2 idiots.

Very impressed that someone dared making a note in a cafe.

The lack of respect and manners from some people in places shared with other people is astonishing. Even KS1 children understand the concept of "indoor voice" even if they still have to master the "reasonable outdoor voice"!

taxguru · 19/01/2026 15:39

I think it's just common courtesy to speak quietly in public places. There's just no need to be loud and shouty. Not so long ago, I was on a relatively long train journey and one woman several seats away didn't stop talking very loudly - her companions were speaking normally/quietly as I couldn't hear them at all, just the loud gobby woman. Some people really have no sense of self awareness at all. Just no need for it at all.

BigSkies2022 · 19/01/2026 15:40

Ok, I have béen a note passer. Booked a seat on the quiet train carriage, notices everywhere about it being the quiet carriage, please no phone calls. Bloke launches into phone call. After a bit of this, I hand him a note , ‘hello. Hope your day is going Ok . This is one of the quiet carriages and you can opt in or out of a quiet versus ‘busy’ carriage when booking. Would you mind taking your calls in a different carriage, or in the buffet car? Thanks, and apologies for the interruption. ‘ I didn’t want to interrupt him by breaking into his conversation, nor did I want to wait until after he had finished the call, because he would then no longer be doing the thing that breached the rules, and I would look even pettier! But I was looking forward to a quiet journey, and didn’t want to put up with loud and lengthy one- sided conversations, which are harder to screen out.

Anyway, he was obviously offenses because he marched back down the carriage a bit later, asked if II had given him a note and handed me one! I just said, ‘oh that’s fine, no need to seize the last word, we’ve no more to say to each other’ and flickr it on the floor.

Was I an arse? Maybe. But why do some people think the rules don’t apply to them ? Just take your call elsewhere!

I wouldn’t pass a note in the circumstances described here though - I don’t think you can really tell people to be quiet in a space designer for socialising.

Disturbia81 · 19/01/2026 15:42

Can’t stand loud people who don’t stfu.

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 15:44

@BigSkies2022
Wahey good for you. What did his note to you say? What an arse. I am so conscious of taking calls even in the non-quiet carriages! In France they have little benches in the vestibules for phone calls and it's tightly policed. It's great.
I've definitely stared at someone in the quiet coach and then pointed at the sign before lol. Didn't work.

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BitOutOfPractice · 19/01/2026 15:45

I was once talking in a quiet carriage on a train in the Netherlands. I didn’t realise it was a quiet carriage. I was told very bluntly to be quiet. The Dutch are very direct. 😂 I moved of course, without any flounciness, and apologised. On account of not being an entitled arsehole like the man in @BigSkies2022 story.

Summerhillsquare · 19/01/2026 15:47

Wasn't Tabbuu some weird spirit drink in the 90s?

EchoedSilence · 19/01/2026 15:47

The lady who gave the note was being unreasonable. Cafes are generally loud noisy places, If she wanted peace and quiet she should have stayed at home.

MyThreeWords · 19/01/2026 15:48

FrodoBiggins · 19/01/2026 15:29

So true, he had his part to play, stirring all this up! My vedict - next time

Keep It To Themselves - Exude Nonchalance!

Good plan. Otherwise you risk Making Everyone Over-Wary.

Anyahyacinth · 19/01/2026 15:48

Do we know if the cat lady wears ear phones on the train?

#team polite note 💚

Andylion · 19/01/2026 15:49

Uchg · 19/01/2026 15:29

Some people just are naturally pitched loud/have a slightly strident/carrying tone that they can no more control than they can their gait. It's a different matter altogether than noisy screen watching and so on and they are free to enjoy public spaces same as the rest of us.

On the other hand purposely making a person feel uncomfortable via snide notes is deliberate and mean. It's not something most people would do and it's obviously antisocial.

Edited

You don’t think people can control the volume of their voice? I disagree.

The only anti-social behaviour came from the cat-owner.

BarbieShrimp · 19/01/2026 15:51

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EchoedSilence · 19/01/2026 15:51

Didn't you just know the note would be written in green pen.

TheBewleySisters · 19/01/2026 15:51

Uchg · 19/01/2026 15:29

Some people just are naturally pitched loud/have a slightly strident/carrying tone that they can no more control than they can their gait. It's a different matter altogether than noisy screen watching and so on and they are free to enjoy public spaces same as the rest of us.

On the other hand purposely making a person feel uncomfortable via snide notes is deliberate and mean. It's not something most people would do and it's obviously antisocial.

Edited

You mean they yell in church, libraries etc because they have no control over their volume?

Zov · 19/01/2026 15:53

Noisy cafe woman is in the wrong.

I was in Costa the other week, and this woman was on a 'teams' call or something on her laptop. She was sooooooooooo loud. Hmm I was on my own, and felt like I had to rush to get away from her booming, shrill voice!

I left after about 7 minutes, and popped into the high street. Half hour later I walked past Costa on the way back to the car, and the bloody woman was still there. The door (to the outside) was closed, and I could still fecking hear her!

Bunnycat101 · 19/01/2026 15:53

Some people are ‘loud people’ and either totally unaware of it or don’t give a shit. I used to hate waiting for my daughter’s dance class a few years ago as one of the dads was just so ott loud it made it really angry. Everyone else was sat quietly trying to have half an hour of peace and he was still ridiculously loud. The teacher came out a few times to ask parents to stop talking as it was distracting the kids but it was basically always this one man chatting to other people (who generally responded at a normal volume). I was so happy when mine moved into a different class.

Uchg · 19/01/2026 15:54

TheBewleySisters · 19/01/2026 15:51

You mean they yell in church, libraries etc because they have no control over their volume?

That's not what I said, but do please proceed to argue with the point you've made up for me.