To think the USA is on the verge of civil war?

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I was reading this morning about trump readying 1500 troops to deploy to Minnesota following the murder of Renee Good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/01/18/trump-minnesota-insurrection-act/

If this goes through, that’s it right? The insurrection act means he can suspend elections, and the military will be fighting the American people.

AIBU to think it’s inevitable at this point? Trump will never back down.

If you do understand what a civil war is, I don't understand why you think there would be nobody to have the war with. In civil wars, ordinary citizens, people outside the government and military, form groups and fight against the government forces and sometimes between themselves. Just because the groups haven't formed yet doesn't mean they won't; if repression increases there will be more people with nothing to lose and guns in their home.
Nobody is saying this will happen tomorrow or that it is guaranteed to happen; all people are saying that the conditions conducive to this happening are increasingly present.

I think who is likely to oppose is relevant. It’s just not going to be from certain groups.

Far from it.

US society is demonstrably extremely polarised, perhaps more than ever before. There is definitely potential for various lines to be drawn and people can also change allegiance as policies start to affect them.

They are on social media in the current context (though there were plenty of people against Mandami on social media too). If the context changes, people may change.

I don’t think so, just given the nature of people being relied on by pp to fight.

And yes there are those against Mamdani on SM but you’re looking to the people who are for him as they are more likely to oppose Trump.

From what I know of US, the militias and right to bear arms are supposed to be a protective measure against a government who oversteps. However the militias seem to be more politically aligned with Trump, and so it really brings home that the US people are only protected against government's that militias don't like, and beyond militias the US people don't have a way to mobilise.

It is, and online discussions like this, talking up the reasons for war don't help massively.

But still I think ultimately, while there will be unrest and perhaps rioting, I don't think enough ordinary Americans or their politicians have the appetite for war.

And then this……

ICE are carrying out the policies people who voted for Trump knew he stood for, and Trump won the elections. So even if you don’t like it that’s how a democracy works. ICE are removing illegal people so if you’re not illegal and they pick you up, you’ll be let go.

I would never have believed that US citizens would bend over and allow the country to become a fascist kleptocracy but here we are 🤷‍♀️

Then again, the writing was on the wall as soon as Musk and co started harvesting the data of citizens under the guise of 'cost cutting' which was lapped up by the dumbarse T supporters.
Barely a word of protest and no concept of what that was actually going to mean. Mindblowing.

I wants war as a way to stay in power. It has been obvious for ages and he doesn't care if it is civil war or war with the rest of the world.

Colour me surprised.

One ICE agent arrested another Latin American ICE agent. It’s despicable.

It is despicable, but if it was part of a comedy movie plot, it would be funny. And probably considered far-fetched.

I've got to the point where I'm struggling to believe all this is actually happening.

He's gone properly crazy, imo.

Many people are scared to demonstrate because they have seen from Renee Goodman that the government will just label anyone as a domestic terrorist.

If a group organizes and marches they will be accused of being Antifa which has been deemed a terrorist network. ICE which resemble a personal militia or mercenary group like Putins Wagner group, have been told they can do what they want to domestic terrorists so they will just mow everyone down in the street.

Trump will then use this as justification to cancel the midterm elections. People have to find other ways to resist outside of demos eg boycotting Trumps benefactors and come out in huge number to turn Congress Blue in November.

What is Congress going to do? Trump acts outside whatever they say?

I've just heard the message he's sent to Norway about the Nobel Prize. He's completely out of control.

I think there's a good chance he is hoping for an excuse to impose martial law in the US. Plus he's desperate to invade Greenland. I don't know if it will mean civil war.

My British FiL lives there, he's got a Green Card but isn't a US citizen. We never worried about his residency status - he's got an American wife and has lived there for over 30 years - but I'm now starting to get concerned. A few weeks ago I would never have considered that his lack of citizenship might cause an issue, but I'm now changing my position.

I find these to be really weak excuses.

Plus very few people in the UK have access to firearms etc.

I can't see the UK military taking part in an armed uprising.

Are you in the US ready to fight?

I’m not American. I didn’t vote for this. I didn’t choose this.

But you want others to fight? It’s a bit easy to post online asking for that.

Unless they shoot you before you have a chance to prove you are not illegal.

Did voters also vote for threats against Greenland and Europe?

Yes I do actually expect the Americans who are sitting on Reddit and the like complaining to go and do something