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To think Reform could be a little less smug?

124 replies

PersephonePistol · 18/01/2026 23:37

Top of the polls, defections, no doubt do very well in the local elections in May.

But could they be a little less smug about it all? I’m not saying they shouldn’t big up the good stuff (from their perspective) that’s going on but they’re treating the next election like it’s in the bag.

I’m not sure it’s a terribly good look.

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EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:14

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:08

It's interesting @EasternStandard because you seem to spend a huge amount of time on here defending Reform and echoing their arguments but you always insist that you aren't going to vote for them. Who will you be voting for?

Have a read of my other posts you seem to follow them anyway going by this comment.

I don’t defend Reform particularly but I do think they’re the result of an electorate responding to Labour and will be hard to beat. But maybe the leader I want to will, let’s see.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/01/2026 08:15

Teanbiscuits33 · 19/01/2026 22:34

I really think that schools should start teaching how to recognise misinformation, critical thinking and politics. It’s so important to everything. And when I say teach politics I don’t mean teaching who to vote for, but a basic rundown of left vs right, what each party generally stands for, international law, trade relations etc

I was gobsmacked that quite a few people thought the U.K. had left the CONTINENT with Brexit, and how many still think we never left and that the ECHR is part of the EU, how they think the king can just overthrow parliament and think the government can just chose not to follow international laws.

It’s completely shameful that grown adults have so little understanding and make their voting choices based on such misguided assumptions.

Tbf, I've only ever seen the idea that we left Europe on the Remain-voting side.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:18

I don't follow your posts particularly, no, but you pop up criticising Labour and defending Reform on just about every political thread so it's hard to miss them really.

It's fine if you don't want to say who you'll be voting for, that's your prerogative, but you can hardly blame people for assuming it's Reform given that you seem to be constantly fighting their corner.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 21/01/2026 08:18

Thing is, they have reason to be smug.

Personally I despise them, but the reality is that as things currently stand they’re going to be the next government and Farage is going to be the next prime minister.

It’s a terrifying thought, but that’s how it is unless something drastic happens.

And I used to be at the top of the “they might have won a couple of seats but won’t get in” school of thought.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/01/2026 08:20

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 07:41

Are you ever happy? Things are starting to get better, whether you reform voters want to admit it or not.

Inflation rose in December...

(No I'm not a Reform voter, that's a very tedious thing to accuse anyone who faces reality)

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:22

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:18

I don't follow your posts particularly, no, but you pop up criticising Labour and defending Reform on just about every political thread so it's hard to miss them really.

It's fine if you don't want to say who you'll be voting for, that's your prerogative, but you can hardly blame people for assuming it's Reform given that you seem to be constantly fighting their corner.

I don’t actually. you probably need to read better or not at all. I’m interested in what’s fairly unprecedented for a British electorate, but have been clear on who I’m backing.

Obviously Labour isn’t for me but then that’s not out of kilter with the majority feeling atm. But the rest you have wrong.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:28

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:22

I don’t actually. you probably need to read better or not at all. I’m interested in what’s fairly unprecedented for a British electorate, but have been clear on who I’m backing.

Obviously Labour isn’t for me but then that’s not out of kilter with the majority feeling atm. But the rest you have wrong.

Edited

I guess it comes down to a matter of perception.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:30

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:28

I guess it comes down to a matter of perception.

Yes Labour voters do tend to do as you have. Even when posters are clear they’ll do this kind of skew.

BlueJuniper94 · 21/01/2026 08:32

drivinmecrazy · 19/01/2026 14:21

I think that we’ve all learnt that this isn’t the way to go.
isn’t this how labour got into government?
I think the quote that’s relevant here is that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

If only we were strong enough to really go for something different.

im really heartened about the increased support for LibDems and the Greens, but fear that people either don’t really want change or they’re afraid about what change really means

I think they really do want change just not in the direction you do

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:41

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:30

Yes Labour voters do tend to do as you have. Even when posters are clear they’ll do this kind of skew.

It isn't a skew, it's an observation. You might think you're being clear, but others will have different perspectives on your posts. Given that we don't know you, we can only form conclusions based on the words that you write.

FWIW, I do believe your statement that you're not a Reform voter. I find it surprising, as much of your thinking seems to be closely aligned with Reform, but perhaps there is something in the party that you find offputting. I wouldn't blame you, of course. Or perhaps you're just a loyal Tory that doesn't want to abandon the party like so many people have.

As for me being a Labour voter, yes, I did vote Labour at the last election. Somewhat reluctantly, as I have felt politically homeless for a long time, but it was the best option for getting rid of my useless Tory MP. I don't know who I'll be voting for next time...it will be a tactical vote to keep Reform out but not sure yet who will have the best chance of that.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:43

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:41

It isn't a skew, it's an observation. You might think you're being clear, but others will have different perspectives on your posts. Given that we don't know you, we can only form conclusions based on the words that you write.

FWIW, I do believe your statement that you're not a Reform voter. I find it surprising, as much of your thinking seems to be closely aligned with Reform, but perhaps there is something in the party that you find offputting. I wouldn't blame you, of course. Or perhaps you're just a loyal Tory that doesn't want to abandon the party like so many people have.

As for me being a Labour voter, yes, I did vote Labour at the last election. Somewhat reluctantly, as I have felt politically homeless for a long time, but it was the best option for getting rid of my useless Tory MP. I don't know who I'll be voting for next time...it will be a tactical vote to keep Reform out but not sure yet who will have the best chance of that.

Honestly you haven’t got it at all. Given I’ve posted clearly who I’m voting for and you still asked below I think what you’re posting is more in your head than mine.

You’re not close to how I feel.

Kendodd · 21/01/2026 08:43

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/01/2026 08:15

Tbf, I've only ever seen the idea that we left Europe on the Remain-voting side.

One thing that surprised me was the number of people who didn't even know what the UK or Britain was nevermind what the EU was.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:51

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:43

Honestly you haven’t got it at all. Given I’ve posted clearly who I’m voting for and you still asked below I think what you’re posting is more in your head than mine.

You’re not close to how I feel.

So why not enlighten me? Who will you be voting for?

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 09:08

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:51

So why not enlighten me? Who will you be voting for?

Let’s see if you can pick it up, it’s even posted on a thread you started. So you must be on it.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 09:47

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 09:08

Let’s see if you can pick it up, it’s even posted on a thread you started. So you must be on it.

Thanks, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to go on a pointless treasure hunt through your prolific posting history in order to find this... I'm just not that interested.

If you want to be coy about your voting intentions, that's entirely your choice. I don't suppose anyone else will be bothered.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 09:53

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 09:47

Thanks, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to go on a pointless treasure hunt through your prolific posting history in order to find this... I'm just not that interested.

If you want to be coy about your voting intentions, that's entirely your choice. I don't suppose anyone else will be bothered.

Great. I was hoping you’d give up the interest.

You’ve got it wrong below and it’s pointless.

JHound · 21/01/2026 09:56

I don’t care about them being smug. Breaking up a two party system is something to be smug about.

I am more concerned that when they get in, if they are a shit show, they and they voters will refuse to take accountability and instead blame the Left as we see in the US now.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 09:56

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 09:53

Great. I was hoping you’d give up the interest.

You’ve got it wrong below and it’s pointless.

Whatever.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 10:01

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 09:56

Whatever.

That did make me laugh, you’ll have to do the below with other posters.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 10:04

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 10:01

That did make me laugh, you’ll have to do the below with other posters.

?

Tigerbalmshark · 21/01/2026 12:55

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:40

In domestic matters only. International law includes treaties and conventions between two or more nations. No one nation party to international law can unilaterally rewrite it. They can ignore it and risk litigation which can cost billions. Not by fines but by sanctions, loss of credit rating, your currency devaluing until you have hyper inflation.

You are assuming that the people voting for Farage give a shit about any of that. They voted for Brexit knowing it would fuck up the economy, and didn’t care. They don’t care if it tanks further because they don’t think it will affect them (of course it will, but they don’t see it)

Goldenbear · 21/01/2026 13:02

BlueJuniper94 · 19/01/2026 11:28

Perhaps it's time to reflect on why they are so popular

Because people have forgotten what civic virtue looks like.

BlueJuniper94 · 21/01/2026 14:25

Goldenbear · 21/01/2026 13:02

Because people have forgotten what civic virtue looks like.

Agreed

BlueJuniper94 · 21/01/2026 14:26

Tigerbalmshark · 21/01/2026 12:55

You are assuming that the people voting for Farage give a shit about any of that. They voted for Brexit knowing it would fuck up the economy, and didn’t care. They don’t care if it tanks further because they don’t think it will affect them (of course it will, but they don’t see it)

You can say that for the 45% of Scots who voted for independence

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