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To think Reform could be a little less smug?

124 replies

PersephonePistol · 18/01/2026 23:37

Top of the polls, defections, no doubt do very well in the local elections in May.

But could they be a little less smug about it all? I’m not saying they shouldn’t big up the good stuff (from their perspective) that’s going on but they’re treating the next election like it’s in the bag.

I’m not sure it’s a terribly good look.

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Teanbiscuits33 · 19/01/2026 22:34

I really think that schools should start teaching how to recognise misinformation, critical thinking and politics. It’s so important to everything. And when I say teach politics I don’t mean teaching who to vote for, but a basic rundown of left vs right, what each party generally stands for, international law, trade relations etc

I was gobsmacked that quite a few people thought the U.K. had left the CONTINENT with Brexit, and how many still think we never left and that the ECHR is part of the EU, how they think the king can just overthrow parliament and think the government can just chose not to follow international laws.

It’s completely shameful that grown adults have so little understanding and make their voting choices based on such misguided assumptions.

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 22:41

think the government can just chose not to follow international laws

Some people argue that Parliament is sovereign.

chaosmaker · 19/01/2026 23:13

dannyufcfan · 19/01/2026 22:21

They could be a little less a lot of things.

I don't know what the answer is to this countries problems are but I can guarantee it's not them.

It would be a devastating blow to the country if they ever got into power.

I do despair at the state of this country for them to be leading the polls. How have we produced people so stupid that they can't see the most obvious con of all time. I mean, did brexit not teach them anything?

The only good side to it is, they would be so inept that they would last one term and implode. Never to be seen again.

Lots of them are still pretending that leaving the EU was a good thing. Can't admit they were wrong, even now.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:24

BlueJuniper94 · 19/01/2026 11:28

Perhaps it's time to reflect on why they are so popular

Because they say what people want to hear. Not the truth.
It’s all a con. And we will all pay for it if they win.
Just like we are still paying for the Brexit con.
Nigel Farage is the most dangerous man in Britain.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:28

BlueJuniper94 · 19/01/2026 11:57

To paraphrase - you believe people are stupid and gullible and are being sold a lie.

Is there something else you would rather people did, what is that?

I personally think people are fed up, underpaid and overtaxed and are desperately clinging to the false hope snake oil being sold to them by Reform.

Its human to hope for something better. It’s human to place trust in a party that promises it to you especially when they have sophisticated propaganda machines that manipulate the facts.

Its just sad and politicians should be held to higher ethical and fact checking standards concerning election promises and press releases.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:37

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 22:12

You are talking rubbish - only half of the UK resident population voted in the referendum. How many of those people googled, "what is the EU?" the following day?

None of what you said disproves that it may have been a trending search, things are called trending when it’s in the 100k plus, and are called viral when it’s 1m plus.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:40

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 22:41

think the government can just chose not to follow international laws

Some people argue that Parliament is sovereign.

In domestic matters only. International law includes treaties and conventions between two or more nations. No one nation party to international law can unilaterally rewrite it. They can ignore it and risk litigation which can cost billions. Not by fines but by sanctions, loss of credit rating, your currency devaluing until you have hyper inflation.

chaosmaker · 20/01/2026 06:53

dannyufcfan · 19/01/2026 22:21

They could be a little less a lot of things.

I don't know what the answer is to this countries problems are but I can guarantee it's not them.

It would be a devastating blow to the country if they ever got into power.

I do despair at the state of this country for them to be leading the polls. How have we produced people so stupid that they can't see the most obvious con of all time. I mean, did brexit not teach them anything?

The only good side to it is, they would be so inept that they would last one term and implode. Never to be seen again.

What damage would and could they do in that time to the country?

bathsmat · 20/01/2026 06:55

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:24

Because they say what people want to hear. Not the truth.
It’s all a con. And we will all pay for it if they win.
Just like we are still paying for the Brexit con.
Nigel Farage is the most dangerous man in Britain.

This

Clavinova · 20/01/2026 19:39

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:37

None of what you said disproves that it may have been a trending search, things are called trending when it’s in the 100k plus, and are called viral when it’s 1m plus.

Articles here suggest only around 1,000 searches during the spike:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2016/06/28/brexit-and-the-two-faces-of-google-adwords-data/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2016/06/28/brexit-and-the-two-faces-of-google-adwords-data/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/06/27/were-brits-really-googling-what-is-the-eu-after-voting-to-leave/

Clavinova · 20/01/2026 19:43

https://www.snapagency.com/search-trends-2016/

Clavinova · 20/01/2026 19:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2026 23:40

In domestic matters only. International law includes treaties and conventions between two or more nations. No one nation party to international law can unilaterally rewrite it. They can ignore it and risk litigation which can cost billions. Not by fines but by sanctions, loss of credit rating, your currency devaluing until you have hyper inflation.

I was being somewhat tongue in cheek - 'Parliament is sovereign' is a common retort on here.

Allswellthatendswelll · 20/01/2026 19:54

I hope there is massive tactical voting against them. I'd vote any of the main partys over reform.

Agrumpyknitter · 20/01/2026 20:08

Dollymylove · 19/01/2026 12:24

Well Labour are not exactly doing such a good job are they? They have made in clear in every way possible that they despise the Britisb electorate.
Every time 2 tier Kier opens his gob he pushes more voters into the arms of Nigel.
He has the charisma of a sack of spuds
(Although a sack of spuds is generally quite useful) 🤣

You might be interested to know that from April 2026, your rights at work are changing with improvements to sick pay, parental leave and strengthened worker protections.

Labour have also invested public money into the NHS making more appointments available. Labour was the party that formed the NHS, Reform want you to pay for your healthcare.

Meanwhile, all those Reform led councils are raising council tax after failing to find significant savings.

Not bad for a sack of spuds, eh?

EasternStandard · 20/01/2026 20:21

Agrumpyknitter · 20/01/2026 20:08

You might be interested to know that from April 2026, your rights at work are changing with improvements to sick pay, parental leave and strengthened worker protections.

Labour have also invested public money into the NHS making more appointments available. Labour was the party that formed the NHS, Reform want you to pay for your healthcare.

Meanwhile, all those Reform led councils are raising council tax after failing to find significant savings.

Not bad for a sack of spuds, eh?

How about job losses?

sleepwouldbenice · 21/01/2026 00:40

@EasternStandard in which way, as this can be twisted according to the narrative . I didn’t vote labour but can oddly see there are two sides to the coin
own goal and job losses from NI? Yep
jobs created from investment and trade deals after the shit show that’s brexit? Also yes

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 07:41

EasternStandard · 20/01/2026 20:21

How about job losses?

Are you ever happy? Things are starting to get better, whether you reform voters want to admit it or not.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 07:46

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 07:41

Are you ever happy? Things are starting to get better, whether you reform voters want to admit it or not.

Ah yes it’s always this with Labour voters. You need to follow someone else with this kind of stuff.

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 07:59

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 07:46

Ah yes it’s always this with Labour voters. You need to follow someone else with this kind of stuff.

What?

Things are improving. Workers rights are better. NHS waiting lists are falling. Wages rising.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:01

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 07:59

What?

Things are improving. Workers rights are better. NHS waiting lists are falling. Wages rising.

You haven’t got who I’m voting for right for a start. Jobs are relevant to many if not all on here. It’s livelihoods and businesses.

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 08:04

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:01

You haven’t got who I’m voting for right for a start. Jobs are relevant to many if not all on here. It’s livelihoods and businesses.

Yes and businesses are finally being held to account.

Kendodd · 21/01/2026 08:04

What I don't understand is how people can be so dumb and to fall for them again?
These are the people who brought us Brexit that made us poorer and increased immigration. And How's cuddling up to Trump going for them?

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:06

spitofyou · 21/01/2026 08:04

Yes and businesses are finally being held to account.

SMEs are a large part of the economy. Hammer those and you’ll struggle.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 21/01/2026 08:08

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 08:01

You haven’t got who I’m voting for right for a start. Jobs are relevant to many if not all on here. It’s livelihoods and businesses.

It's interesting @EasternStandard because you seem to spend a huge amount of time on here defending Reform and echoing their arguments but you always insist that you aren't going to vote for them. Who will you be voting for?

MindYourUsage · 21/01/2026 08:13

It is so hard to form (and stand behind) any opinion at all. This is why I find voting so damn hard.

Whatever I read or hear has been created by someone else (i.e. I'm just reading someone else's bias). Even non biased publications have been written by someone else and are naturally biased.

Being able to read huge government papers/documents myself, digest them, analyse them, compare them, critique and stress test them etc... would be more than a full time job and require brains that frankly I don't have. (I'm not dumb though!)

It's depressing that none of us really know the full story of anything.