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Mum annoyed because of what I said about ds

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:20

I am despairing today. I welcome brutally honest opinions here.

I’m a single parent. I took dc 3 to a large park/play area/walk today and met my niece (4), my parents and my sibling’s in laws. So there was me and two sets of grandparents.

My dc’s dad is involved but for context his parents have died so for DC it is nice he has my sibling’s in laws to be ‘grandparents’ too. My dc refers to them as granny and grandpa as they refer the same to my parents.

Anyway… we (me and my parents) arrive first and went to grab and drink. While sitting and chatting and waiting for nephew and nephew’s grandparents, my mum tries to hug dc. Dc is having none of it and won’t sit on her knee and keeps moving away. I should be clear here that my mum adores dc and both my parents are good to us and they are always buying presents and wanting to see us. But, dc 3 can sometimes be like this, just didn’t want to move off the chair and didn’t want a hug right then. When he’s done this to me I just say oh ok maybe later then? And he’ll either say yes later or just ignore me and carry on with what he’s doing. I was starting to get a bit irritated with mum as she was making an unhappy face and saying please, I want to hug you and dc was getting more annoyed. I said to her just leave him alone a bit he doesn’t like it and he’s said no so just leave it now, he will come to you if you just leave him a bit. I don’t know exactly what tone I said it in, perhaps I was offhand. I just wanted dc to be able to chill and bit and drink his drink. She responded sort of shocked as if she wasn’t doing anything wrong and she just wanted to hug him.

So… then nephew and nephew grandparents arrive. Again for context they’ve met my family a lot and we were all together for Christmas for example. Dc is excited to see his other ‘grandparents’ and immediately runs over and is holding their hands and so on. Obviously this is because they are more of a novelty as they don’t see them as much as my parents.

What happens after that is my mum seems to descend into a huge mood. Very sulky, barely speaking to anyone. chatting when she has to be not really engaging. Kept going off to the toilet for long periods of time. I asked what was wrong, she said nothing but continued to be very off and cold.

Nephew’s grandparents are very energetic (slightly older than my parents by a couple of years). They are very involved with nephew and both are hands on, they’ll basically be a huge help when they are around, you don’t really have to ask anything they just help with ordering food, getting the kids to eat, getting coats on… my parents do help but it’s often if they are in the right frame of mind or aren’t feeling too tired ie you can’t rely on the help if that makes sense. As my mum was being so withdrawn and as they are quite full on, the kids were running and playing with them rather than my mum, it was a perfect storm (so to speak!).

Eventually we get to the cars and say goodbye to them and it all comes out…im awful for telling my mum to back off a bit because it’s made my DC go off her (!!!), i was very cruel, dc isn’t interested in my mum because i said what I said in front of him. My mum was visibly upset so she obviously genuinely feels hurt, however she didn’t really say goodbye to ds properly like she is usually does and instead got in the car (dad came round to the window to say bye to him like usual).

I since messaged her and said it was really unpleasant to behave like that and I hadn’t meant to do anything to put Ds off her, in fact it was the opposite, I was trying to tell her how to best make him want to come to her. She’s now not speaking and neither is my dad by the looks of it either. They’re usually always on their phones in the evening and they’ve not even read my messages. I feel exhausted by it all. Welcome honest opinions on this. I don’t want to hurt my mum but it’s not the first time something like this has happened where I get silent treatment. Sorry for the essay.

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ExtraOnions · 17/01/2026 20:29

Just leave them be for the evening, they are upset, give them a bit of space.

I think it’s a bit odd that your DC called your siblings in-laws “grandparents”.. they aren’t grandparents, you parents are.. and I get why they might be a bit jealous.

Scotsmare77 · 17/01/2026 20:30

You’ve done absolutely nothing wrong. Your mum is jealous, I can understand why she felt that way but she needs to get a grip of her emotions.

My own DS used to be the same about hugs and I never made him hug or kiss anyone he didn’t want to. Keep speaking up for him.

No ones to blame, no one’s done anything wrong. Don’t apologise.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 17/01/2026 20:30

Treat her like your toddler. Ignore the bad behaviour.

thistimelastweek · 17/01/2026 20:30

Your mum doesn't seem to understand small children at all. Most won't cuddle on demand and will dig in the more you push it.
Your advice was sound.
Having said that, not sure how to advise going forward. Depends how reasonable your mum might be after she's got over her fit of pique.
But nothing you do will make your son kiss and hug on demand.

Scotsmare77 · 17/01/2026 20:32

ExtraOnions · 17/01/2026 20:29

Just leave them be for the evening, they are upset, give them a bit of space.

I think it’s a bit odd that your DC called your siblings in-laws “grandparents”.. they aren’t grandparents, you parents are.. and I get why they might be a bit jealous.

Having grown up with 1 grandparent myself I think it’s lovely that a child has so many grandparent figures in their life, as long as they understand as they get older which ones are their actual relatives. Bit like having lots of aunties. The more love and support a child is surrounded by the better.

Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:32

ExtraOnions · 17/01/2026 20:29

Just leave them be for the evening, they are upset, give them a bit of space.

I think it’s a bit odd that your DC called your siblings in-laws “grandparents”.. they aren’t grandparents, you parents are.. and I get why they might be a bit jealous.

@ExtraOnions this is an interesting perspective, I just thought it was nice he could do that as he’s very close to nephew and obviously nephew calls them that

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:33

Scotsmare77 · 17/01/2026 20:32

Having grown up with 1 grandparent myself I think it’s lovely that a child has so many grandparent figures in their life, as long as they understand as they get older which ones are their actual relatives. Bit like having lots of aunties. The more love and support a child is surrounded by the better.

@Scotsmare77 that’s exactly what I thought which is why I went along with it and I think it’s just nice for him. He sees my parents far more anyway so no need for jealousy

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:34

thistimelastweek · 17/01/2026 20:30

Your mum doesn't seem to understand small children at all. Most won't cuddle on demand and will dig in the more you push it.
Your advice was sound.
Having said that, not sure how to advise going forward. Depends how reasonable your mum might be after she's got over her fit of pique.
But nothing you do will make your son kiss and hug on demand.

@thistimelastweek she seems to be annoyed about what I said in front of ds. Apparently that’s what made him not engage with her for the day. Which isn’t true anyway, he was engaging with her but she spent half the day in a mood and he also had other people to play with too

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:36

Scotsmare77 · 17/01/2026 20:30

You’ve done absolutely nothing wrong. Your mum is jealous, I can understand why she felt that way but she needs to get a grip of her emotions.

My own DS used to be the same about hugs and I never made him hug or kiss anyone he didn’t want to. Keep speaking up for him.

No ones to blame, no one’s done anything wrong. Don’t apologise.

@Scotsmare77 This is the thing.. often nephew will run off if I try and cuddle him but I wouldn’t start trying to force him to. I can’t understand the way she wouldn’t stop, it was just making him frustrated so I felt i had to step in.

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Shufflebumnessie · 17/01/2026 20:39

My mum can be like this when things don't go exactly as she wanted them to or how she imagined they'd go. She's particularly like it when it comes to our DC & their other grandparents (my in-laws). She can't seem to understand that our children will naturally gravitate to the people who don't force them to do things they don't want to do (just because that's what she expects, or thinks should happen), & who actively take an interest in & engage with the children.
I just ignore the sulking and reduced contact. She'll then pretend as though nothing happened and that her behaviour wasn't emotionally immature etc. It's definitely a jealousy thing & it's exhausting!

sprigatito · 17/01/2026 20:41

She needs to get over herself. Some grandparents do seem to expect their grandchildren to show love to order - which small children don’t do unless they are made to feel they have no choice. Attitudes to body autonomy and coercion of children have changed, and some of these people struggle to accept that and think you’re being rude if you don’t guilt-trip your child into complying. Personally I am glad that ordering children to accept unwanted physical contact has gone out of fashion. I would not engage further with your mother on this, she can either grow up and be reasonable or she can miss out on her grandchild. There’s no room for compromise here, so those really are her choices 🤷🏻‍♀️

Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:42

Shufflebumnessie · 17/01/2026 20:39

My mum can be like this when things don't go exactly as she wanted them to or how she imagined they'd go. She's particularly like it when it comes to our DC & their other grandparents (my in-laws). She can't seem to understand that our children will naturally gravitate to the people who don't force them to do things they don't want to do (just because that's what she expects, or thinks should happen), & who actively take an interest in & engage with the children.
I just ignore the sulking and reduced contact. She'll then pretend as though nothing happened and that her behaviour wasn't emotionally immature etc. It's definitely a jealousy thing & it's exhausting!

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@Shufflebumnessie its nice to know im not alone! I can’t believe she’s not even replied to my messages. So exhausting! I feel like I can’t win

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FlashingFairyLight · 17/01/2026 20:43

You're fine.
Everything you've said makes sense. Your son should be polite and learn the social norms of saying hello, but he absolutely does not need to be kissing and hugging people he doesn't want to.

Essentially your mum is making up silly popularity games in her head and she lost.

My mum does this, it's not your problem to solve. It's their own insecurities.

Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:43

sprigatito · 17/01/2026 20:41

She needs to get over herself. Some grandparents do seem to expect their grandchildren to show love to order - which small children don’t do unless they are made to feel they have no choice. Attitudes to body autonomy and coercion of children have changed, and some of these people struggle to accept that and think you’re being rude if you don’t guilt-trip your child into complying. Personally I am glad that ordering children to accept unwanted physical contact has gone out of fashion. I would not engage further with your mother on this, she can either grow up and be reasonable or she can miss out on her grandchild. There’s no room for compromise here, so those really are her choices 🤷🏻‍♀️

@sprigatito thanks, to be honest my main thought at the time was that he was just happy having his drink and I was enjoying the calm! I do feel if anyone, including a toddler, doesn’t want to do something then they shouldn’t have to (within reason obviously). And this was one of those times where it really didn’t matter if she had a cuddle then or later on

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MapleOakPine · 17/01/2026 20:44

You haven't done anything wrong OP, but if it makes you feel any better, my lovely mum who I'm really close to would get irrationally jealous of my DC's other set of grandparents when the DC were small. Even though we saw my parents a LOT more often (due to geographical proximity).

Driftingawaynow · 17/01/2026 20:44

My mil was like this and totally destroyed the relationship with my son, her grandson. Twatty immature behaviour, not your fault.

Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:44

FlashingFairyLight · 17/01/2026 20:43

You're fine.
Everything you've said makes sense. Your son should be polite and learn the social norms of saying hello, but he absolutely does not need to be kissing and hugging people he doesn't want to.

Essentially your mum is making up silly popularity games in her head and she lost.

My mum does this, it's not your problem to solve. It's their own insecurities.

@FlashingFairyLight i can’t help feeling sorry for her though and worried that she was so upset. I know I will be awake worrying about this tonight.

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:45

MapleOakPine · 17/01/2026 20:44

You haven't done anything wrong OP, but if it makes you feel any better, my lovely mum who I'm really close to would get irrationally jealous of my DC's other set of grandparents when the DC were small. Even though we saw my parents a LOT more often (due to geographical proximity).

@MapleOakPine thank you for making me feel less alone. I feel anxious and upset my mum is clearly upset and the fact she won’t even reply to me or call me back means I definitely won’t sleep well tonight!

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Happyher · 17/01/2026 20:46

You’ve unintentionally upset your mum. Best to make up with her. Call on her with DS and flowers or chocolates and she’ll come round

ladyofthemanor24 · 17/01/2026 20:46

Your Mum was in the wrong, I used to have to stick up for my kids too and gently tell people they didn’t want to be touched if their body language said so.
Also in my family, my kids are close to their cousins and they have different grandparents and great grandparents (obviously) and as small kids they called them all the same e.g. Nanny H, she wasn’t grandma to them all and the kids knew this, but all kids were loved and treated equally so Nanny H it was! i think it’s lovely that they are close to your DC also and treat him the same as their grandchildren.

Vaxtable · 17/01/2026 20:46

Just leave them to sulk. When they are ready to crow up and contact you then you can have a conversation around how DS is his own person and they cannot force a child to do something they don’t want to and they have to accept that,

RudolphRNR · 17/01/2026 20:46

Your mum was being annoying but you made it worse. Both of you at fault. Your child shouldn’t be guilt tripped into hugs by the use of a sad face. Your mum shouldn’t be told off in front of your child. Give her some space then make up.

I agree with the pp though that I can really understand why your mum is sore with regards to the other “grandparents”. Your sibling’s in laws are a distance from your son, no actual relation. It’s nice they are an extra presence in his life but if it was me I would have made them auntie and uncle and kept the title of grandparents as a privilege for the actual grandparents. I see why your mum is sensitive and easily upset by them essentially taking over.

Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:47

Happyher · 17/01/2026 20:46

You’ve unintentionally upset your mum. Best to make up with her. Call on her with DS and flowers or chocolates and she’ll come round

@Happyher ive tried (minus the flowers) but she won’t speak to me

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MaggiesShadow · 17/01/2026 20:48

Aw, you haven't done anything wrong. She sounds hurt which I kind of understand? Your nephew's grandparents aren't your son's grandparents, after all so I get why she'd be upset if your son is hanging out of them when he refused to hug her.

But he's three! So feeling hurt is fine but acting out absolutely isn't.

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