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Mum annoyed because of what I said about ds

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Doyouknowsurely · 17/01/2026 20:20

I am despairing today. I welcome brutally honest opinions here.

I’m a single parent. I took dc 3 to a large park/play area/walk today and met my niece (4), my parents and my sibling’s in laws. So there was me and two sets of grandparents.

My dc’s dad is involved but for context his parents have died so for DC it is nice he has my sibling’s in laws to be ‘grandparents’ too. My dc refers to them as granny and grandpa as they refer the same to my parents.

Anyway… we (me and my parents) arrive first and went to grab and drink. While sitting and chatting and waiting for nephew and nephew’s grandparents, my mum tries to hug dc. Dc is having none of it and won’t sit on her knee and keeps moving away. I should be clear here that my mum adores dc and both my parents are good to us and they are always buying presents and wanting to see us. But, dc 3 can sometimes be like this, just didn’t want to move off the chair and didn’t want a hug right then. When he’s done this to me I just say oh ok maybe later then? And he’ll either say yes later or just ignore me and carry on with what he’s doing. I was starting to get a bit irritated with mum as she was making an unhappy face and saying please, I want to hug you and dc was getting more annoyed. I said to her just leave him alone a bit he doesn’t like it and he’s said no so just leave it now, he will come to you if you just leave him a bit. I don’t know exactly what tone I said it in, perhaps I was offhand. I just wanted dc to be able to chill and bit and drink his drink. She responded sort of shocked as if she wasn’t doing anything wrong and she just wanted to hug him.

So… then nephew and nephew grandparents arrive. Again for context they’ve met my family a lot and we were all together for Christmas for example. Dc is excited to see his other ‘grandparents’ and immediately runs over and is holding their hands and so on. Obviously this is because they are more of a novelty as they don’t see them as much as my parents.

What happens after that is my mum seems to descend into a huge mood. Very sulky, barely speaking to anyone. chatting when she has to be not really engaging. Kept going off to the toilet for long periods of time. I asked what was wrong, she said nothing but continued to be very off and cold.

Nephew’s grandparents are very energetic (slightly older than my parents by a couple of years). They are very involved with nephew and both are hands on, they’ll basically be a huge help when they are around, you don’t really have to ask anything they just help with ordering food, getting the kids to eat, getting coats on… my parents do help but it’s often if they are in the right frame of mind or aren’t feeling too tired ie you can’t rely on the help if that makes sense. As my mum was being so withdrawn and as they are quite full on, the kids were running and playing with them rather than my mum, it was a perfect storm (so to speak!).

Eventually we get to the cars and say goodbye to them and it all comes out…im awful for telling my mum to back off a bit because it’s made my DC go off her (!!!), i was very cruel, dc isn’t interested in my mum because i said what I said in front of him. My mum was visibly upset so she obviously genuinely feels hurt, however she didn’t really say goodbye to ds properly like she is usually does and instead got in the car (dad came round to the window to say bye to him like usual).

I since messaged her and said it was really unpleasant to behave like that and I hadn’t meant to do anything to put Ds off her, in fact it was the opposite, I was trying to tell her how to best make him want to come to her. She’s now not speaking and neither is my dad by the looks of it either. They’re usually always on their phones in the evening and they’ve not even read my messages. I feel exhausted by it all. Welcome honest opinions on this. I don’t want to hurt my mum but it’s not the first time something like this has happened where I get silent treatment. Sorry for the essay.

OP posts:
MikeRafone · 19/01/2026 08:13

cuddling a child when they don’t want to have a cuddle/hug is not acceptable & when when you’re out have a drink would you want to be having a cuddle

the fact then your dc is excited to see other adults ( whatever they’re called, it was always aunty and uncle for any older adults in our lives growing up) then your mum gets jealous

your mum needs to know she can’t force cuddkes
that if she wants her grandchild to feel excited to see her she needs to work on n that part of the relationship

id not back down on the cuddles

dicentra365 · 19/01/2026 08:17

Agree with a lot of what has been said, but why did you message her to say it was unpleasant to behave like that? That was never going to calm the situation down, if that was your intention.

HashtagShitShop · 19/01/2026 08:27

Just like adults, children don't want to constantly be touched and pawed and hugged and they haven't learnt to be diplomatic about it like adults should.

Just because she's in a position of authority with him as an older adult doesn't mean she gets to top dog that and have her feelings mean more than his so he should give in and be all over her and only her.

It's something your mother needs to learn going forward because it will happen repeatedly and the more she sulks and or insists on it, the more he will not want to be involved. The ball is in her court, not that of a three year old child.

Leave her to it until she realises she is the one who is missing out, otherwise you will only be reinforcing to her that that is how she behaves to get you to come running and feel like you've done wrong to appease her.

THisbackwithavengeance · 19/01/2026 08:29

I feel sorry for your mum. She really tried and got rebuffed at every turn. I know your DS is too young to be purposely mean but would it have hurt for you to have done a bit more to encourage the relationship?

Melarus · 19/01/2026 08:39

Going against the grain here but I feel a bit sorry for your mum OP. Yes, she's emotionally immature and behaved childishly - but I can't see any evidence that she's as callous and manipulative as posters here are making out.

It could be that she was crying in the toilets, and felt embarrassed about it afterwards and didn't want anyone to notice. At some level she probably realises her own bad behaviour is working against her - she may be feeling, "I've messed it all up with DGC and it will never get right again." So the grief and shame spirals.

What was her own upbringing like?

Fairyliz · 19/01/2026 08:40

Doyouknowsurely · 19/01/2026 07:48

@Fairyliz this is a most bizarre post. Firstly it’s not the same and secondly how was it my fault he didn’t want to engage with her because she decided to sulk?!

Where are earth did I say it was your fault he didn’t want to hug her? I actually agreed that young children shouldn’t be made to hug anyone if they don’t want to.
My point is don’t we all feel a slight pang of jealousy if we feel like our children like someone better than us. In this case your mum is jealous of someone who isn’t even a grandma getting more attention than her. Childish but understandable don’t you think?

Strongle · 19/01/2026 08:43

I have been thinking about this. She definitely should’ve not pushed the cuddles and she’s been emotionally manipulative a bit since.

but. It’s possible she felt really humiliated and is very hurt. And not responding well.

I do also think the granny thing is a bit of a slap in the face to her if I’m honest. I hated my mother in law. Absolutely could not stand her. But I still remember her face the day my brother in law was home from Australia for a visit and said that his kids had older neighbours who they called granny and grandpa and had “sort of adopted” as grandparents.

she was really hurt and was definitely “off” for the rest of the dinner.

SparklyGlitterballs · 19/01/2026 08:50

Your DM sounds very emotionally immature. Also, whether it comes from a partner or parents, the silent treatment is abusive.

Your DM needs to understand children better. You can't force them to hug or kiss you, and trying to manipulate them with sad faces or pleading is abhorrent. She seems to have no self awareness of her own behaviour and how it affected the situation.

Don't feed her sulking. Just leave her be and let her be the one to reach out to you. Your dad doesn't sound too much better, but he may be siding with her for a quiet life. Make your own plans, do your own thing, and probably when your DS sees her again he'll be all excited. Don't be afraid to advocate for him again though if she tries to force affection on him another time.

Sterlingrose · 19/01/2026 08:50

Melarus · 19/01/2026 08:39

Going against the grain here but I feel a bit sorry for your mum OP. Yes, she's emotionally immature and behaved childishly - but I can't see any evidence that she's as callous and manipulative as posters here are making out.

It could be that she was crying in the toilets, and felt embarrassed about it afterwards and didn't want anyone to notice. At some level she probably realises her own bad behaviour is working against her - she may be feeling, "I've messed it all up with DGC and it will never get right again." So the grief and shame spirals.

What was her own upbringing like?

If that was true, why couldn't she pull herself together enough to say goodbye to the very small child properly, turn up to the planned event the following morning, or reply to her daughter's messages?

Don't you think her reaction is out of proportion?

Is it ok to be that emotionally immature as a grown woman if the person who is taking the brunt of it is a 3 year old?

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 08:56

Happyher · 17/01/2026 22:44

Oh for gods sake! It’s her Mum! She sounds like she’s close to her parents, probably relies on them for childminding. Her mum obviously felt jealous and left out. Why does mumsnet always want families estranged.

So her mum behaved like a toddler and should be pandered to like one?

HideousKinky · 19/01/2026 08:57

SparklyGlitterballs · 19/01/2026 08:50

Your DM sounds very emotionally immature. Also, whether it comes from a partner or parents, the silent treatment is abusive.

Your DM needs to understand children better. You can't force them to hug or kiss you, and trying to manipulate them with sad faces or pleading is abhorrent. She seems to have no self awareness of her own behaviour and how it affected the situation.

Don't feed her sulking. Just leave her be and let her be the one to reach out to you. Your dad doesn't sound too much better, but he may be siding with her for a quiet life. Make your own plans, do your own thing, and probably when your DS sees her again he'll be all excited. Don't be afraid to advocate for him again though if she tries to force affection on him another time.

SparklyGlitterballs is absolutely right in her 2nd paragraph.

There is a real danger in children feeling they have to submit to embraces they don't want.

It is important they grow up with a sense of having autonomy over their own bodies.

They should never feel they have to allow Uncle Jack to kiss them or sit on Aunty Jane's knee unless they really want to.

Emotional interaction should never be coerced and there are obvious dangers in children feeling they must just do what adults want them to, regardless of their own wishes

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 09:05

THisbackwithavengeance · 19/01/2026 08:29

I feel sorry for your mum. She really tried and got rebuffed at every turn. I know your DS is too young to be purposely mean but would it have hurt for you to have done a bit more to encourage the relationship?

😱

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 09:07

Fairyliz · 19/01/2026 08:40

Where are earth did I say it was your fault he didn’t want to hug her? I actually agreed that young children shouldn’t be made to hug anyone if they don’t want to.
My point is don’t we all feel a slight pang of jealousy if we feel like our children like someone better than us. In this case your mum is jealous of someone who isn’t even a grandma getting more attention than her. Childish but understandable don’t you think?

Not in the least understandable for a grown woman to behave like a child.

Lobelia123 · 19/01/2026 09:12

Her reaction after the event shows her immaturity and need for control and attention. How can an adults feelings be more important than a childs, and why is it everyone elses responsibility to make granny feel loved, included and the most important and special person at the table?? I cant stand this kind of self centred manipulative nonsense. No wonder the kid gravitates towards the fun people who dont want to smother him and put emotional guilt trips on him to turn him into a performing monkey! Just ignore them both OP, and let them get over themselves. Sounds like theyve retreated to the poor me victim mindset and are expecting you to come crawling, apologising and falling over yourself to mend bridges and make it all better. Dont pander to this nonsense or it will only get worse. You were well within your rights, and even if you were a bit sharp in your tone, it would have been the kind of normal family spat that is meaningless in the larger scheme of things, except its been blown massively out of proportion by your mum throwing a tantrum because she wasnt the centre of attention. Its not your sons job to hug and kiss, snuggle and make her fee like the most special and most loved granny. Its HER job to make him feel like the most loved and special little boy int he world.

Starlight7080 · 19/01/2026 09:14

I think they did overreact and you cant control children or what they do.
But at the same time its very weird they call and consider your nephews grandparents to be also there grandparents.
Thats going to get so confusing as they get older. And it does take away from the importance of your parents role . Why was that even considered. They should have been aunt/uncle at most .
You cant just make up relatives to replace dead ones . Its very strange .

MrsFaustus · 19/01/2026 09:29

I’d have been pretty upset if I got a message like that from my daughter. Yes, your mum is probably a bit jealous. The message won’t have helped!

DrToothandtheElectricMayhem · 19/01/2026 09:30

Let your mum cool off. It’s up to her to deal with her own feelings.
That said, I find calling grandparents who aren’t grandparents in this situation odd. And I wonder if your son’s father knows. I have lost both my parents, and I’m divorced from my children’s father. His parents are great, the kids love them. But if his sister in laws parents started being called grandma and grandpa, I would be deeply, deeply unhappy, no matter how nice her parents are. But then, I grew up having to address non related family friends as aunty and uncle and even as a kid I thought it was weird and uncomfortable. Why can’t your son just have them in his life in exactly the same way but call them by their names? Your mum would possibly prefer it, and it’s not confusing, because eventually he will learn they aren’t his grandparents anyway. He will still have their time, love and support.

TheOchreQuoter · 19/01/2026 09:39

Oh this is so familiar. Just don’t tolerate it. Stick to your guns and don’t let her erode your child’s boundaries

Melarus · 19/01/2026 09:41

Sterlingrose · 19/01/2026 08:50

If that was true, why couldn't she pull herself together enough to say goodbye to the very small child properly, turn up to the planned event the following morning, or reply to her daughter's messages?

Don't you think her reaction is out of proportion?

Is it ok to be that emotionally immature as a grown woman if the person who is taking the brunt of it is a 3 year old?

Hard to say as I don't know her, but maybe she just lacks the self-control to override her own overwhelming feelings. It's sad, because it's a form of self-sabotage.

All I'm saying is that people sometimes behave badly without being evil monsters. If the op wants her mother to be more emotionally resilient, I think she would get further with an understanding, supportive approach than she would by "punishing" her or freezing her out.

AmberSpy · 19/01/2026 09:46

Happyher · 17/01/2026 20:46

You’ve unintentionally upset your mum. Best to make up with her. Call on her with DS and flowers or chocolates and she’ll come round

Sounds like the mum upset herself to be honest. I don't think OP should be bringing her flowers and rewarding her sulk. Anyone who knows the first thing about small children understands that trying to force them to kiss/hug/sit on your lap is likely to push them away.

Imbusytodaysorry · 19/01/2026 09:47

@Doyouknowsurely i actually think your mothers behavior is disgusting .
Because you spoke up for your child (as his voice wasn’t being heard by her) she chose to be in a mood , which ment no child would want to be around her .
It really is pathetic from a grown adult.

Now she is guilt tripping you when this is her doing.
Is she always like this ??? Time to make changes.

Imbusytodaysorry · 19/01/2026 09:48

AmberSpy · 19/01/2026 09:46

Sounds like the mum upset herself to be honest. I don't think OP should be bringing her flowers and rewarding her sulk. Anyone who knows the first thing about small children understands that trying to force them to kiss/hug/sit on your lap is likely to push them away.

I agree ! The gran mother’s behavior is embarrassing.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 19/01/2026 09:51

Tell your mum she needs to literally be the bigger person with a three year old, as she is very much the bigger person!

At this age they can refuse affection from their own parents, never mind their grandparents. DD1 in particular was all about me and it can be exhausting and upsetting for both parents.

It's nothing personal, though behaving like a toddler herself will not help.

And to all the people saying the other relatives are not technically grandparents, so what?

My grandad's partner was every bit a granny to me as if she had been a blood relative. (DF lost his mum very young so I never knew her).

My mum's best friend was a close to me as a blood relation aunty.

AmberSpy · 19/01/2026 09:52

Starlight7080 · 19/01/2026 09:14

I think they did overreact and you cant control children or what they do.
But at the same time its very weird they call and consider your nephews grandparents to be also there grandparents.
Thats going to get so confusing as they get older. And it does take away from the importance of your parents role . Why was that even considered. They should have been aunt/uncle at most .
You cant just make up relatives to replace dead ones . Its very strange .

I think this is a very strange response. I called my step grandfather and step grandmother 'granny' and 'grandpa' even though we weren't related by blood.

It didn't confuse me growing up, and none of my other grandparents were emotionally immature enough to be upset by it or to feel that it was diminishing their role. I just felt lucky to have six grandparents instead of four.

I think it's lovely that these people want to be present in this child's life and I don't think this is a case of 'making up relatives to replace dead ones'.

AffableApple · 19/01/2026 09:54

Happyher · 17/01/2026 20:46

You’ve unintentionally upset your mum. Best to make up with her. Call on her with DS and flowers or chocolates and she’ll come round

Erm no. OP, don't lose sleep over this. Your DS is more mature, with a better grasp of boundaries than your adult mother.

She should be apologising to you and your son for being a twat. Do not demonstrate any sort of apology, especially in front of your boy, who had every right not to want to be hugged.

Split the difference re apologies, and ignore her until she grows up.

How lovely that he has all that love from extended family.