My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

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When was the last time you had a home visit? Is this a way of managing the " problem" by them taking clinics there? Is it a way of hiding this issue? I understood they did not have access to the NHS yet I see massive bags of medicine labelled for this hotel too at the dispensary. We wait about 6-7 weeks for a routine appointment.

You are completely and utterly deluded. Groups of men with no womenfolk have always been a problem throughout history, no matter where they come from. Men who have little respect for “immodest” women are a threat, like it or not.

You have repeated yourself. You're a Liberal, I am not. I believe in being cautious when providing aid.

You've obviously ignored half of the posts in here to still be spouting the rubbish that AS can't use the NHS 🙄 Anyone can access basic healthcare be they citizens, AS or tourists at time of need. Bills can be issued afterwards if they aren't entitled to free care, but without an income AS obviously cannot be billed.

Correct, I am a liberal, not a racist.

I wouldn't deny anyone aid.

The UK infrastructure is crumbling. That's the fault of successive Governments. Not asylum seekers.

Lack of affordable housing, pressures on the NHS, Education, a disastrous immigration system. People waiting years to be processed and not being allowed to work. And an influx of even more people when we can't support the one's already here.

Recession. Cameron/Osborne's disastrous (we're all in this together) austerity measures. Brexit. Covid. Trump.

All these issues stem from utterly ineffectual politicians, corrupt financial institutions and the power of mega corporations.

We're pretty much fucked. And scapegoating a particular group of people is par for the course in times like these. If it's not the poor, it's the disabled. In Thatcher's '80's it was single parent mothers. I remember it well.

Right wing politicians have a penchant for the old scapegoating. It's their bread and butter. It never fails to astonish me how successful it is. You'd think we'd learn from history that we're being blatantly manipulated. But. Apparently not.

So today it's migrants. Tomorrow it'll be the elderly. Or the obese.

But never the fault of the powers that be. sighs

And the band played believe it if you like…

i have no issues with the NHS treating the migrant families the women and children but we need to send the young male illegals back to whence they came from..they bring nothing to this country... just take...My hubby pays £79 a week in national insurance contributions, and our child has to go private to see a fecking dentist and they get it free...i grudge this immensly

Is it racism, or being wary of particular religions or cultures that still hold strongly to deeply misogynistic views, regardless of skin colour/ethnicity?

Is it acceptable to be wary of men from cultures that treat women as lesser, and dislike those that still hold those views? Or is it only okay to dislike misogyny if the men practising it are white British?

The crisis in dentistry has nothing to do with asylum seekers

Would you send male refugees back to Iran?

I often wonder if people like the op would prefer asylum seekers with serious illnesses, sometimes contagious diseases or who are just unwell should be left to either die or roam around the streets infecting people. The racists don’t want them in hotels, don’t want them in army camps so wandering around with untreated illness is the logical outcome if you don’t want them treated or securely housed. As for no access to NHS-given the madness of the antivaxxers would you prefer measles, TB, flu etc outbreaks left untreated and left to spread? I know these racist idiots exist, but I just can’t understand why they’ve never availed themselves of the education offered to them since childhood so that they can at least TRY to use even a modicum of logic in their thinking.

Would you deny them access to a GP on that basis?

Deal with their asylum claims quickly and efficiently, instead of dumping them in down-at-heel hotels for months or years on end, might be a good place to start. Unfortunately this would require little short of regime change at the Home Office, so I'll not hold my breath

It's rather rude to respond to a question with a question, while answering none of mine.

People keep referring to them as asylum seekers which is what they're classed as while being processed.

But where ARE the women and children? It's historically been a case of in war times men ran towards the war and women and children away from it.
Yet here we have thousands of men running away supposedly from war and yet have left the women and children behind?

Or do they get processed and settled here and THEN send for their wives and children? Is that what these new housing estates the government are insisting are being build everywhere are for? These AS and their families?

Before anyone jumps in this is a genuine question, not for goadiness, I'm trying to understand why the AS are only men.

Would you want your husband to take you and your children to an unknown place, where you don’t know how it’s going to be? Or to go ahead gets established and send for you and the children?

From what I know (and I may be wrong), it's because it's far easier for (young) men to make the arduous journey alive, or even just leave the country in some nations. The women and children tend to be left behind because of that. I'm not sure whether the men then send for them, send money to them somehow, or just abandon them to a war torn nation.
But either way I find myself wary of an influx of young men who are escaping war...and leaving their mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters behind to face the brunt of it. On the surface at least, the optics are not favourable.

@LittleMi55Nobody well give you "hubby" a medal. I pay more NI than that and I am happy for it to fund healthcare, including for peole who don't pay NI - the elderly, those on a low income, the vulnerable, you apparently.

Wariness doesn't always mean racism, no. But I would hope it is done with an open mind. People fleeing those countries because they don't agree with the regime and are in danger of it.

However the reply was to a poster who said they would deny male refugees from such countries basic human rights. That looks like racism to me.

Would you like to answer my questions?

Yes. I would, 100%. In the case of asylum seekers at least, an unknown Britain would be massively preferable to whatever we're fleeing from. And then to be left in that situation without the protection or financial support of my husband...not great, I'd imagine.

Lots of confusion on this thread.

No one disputes 'asylum seekers' are allowed healthcare. Thr point is the Dr providing it had nhs patients waiting so he needs to organise himself more effectively. Folk should not be sat waiting because he's raking it in providing extras.

My dad had a home visit when he had the flu. If necessary you can get home visits.

I dont understand any of your points. If someone needs medical attention then they need medical attention. What do you expect to happen? Just let them die?

Yes, we get illegal immigration, we have done so for many many years. Its just something for people to focus on instead of looking inwards. We also have a high number of legal immigrants that have put a lot of pressure on the country. We have a lot of young, healthy unemployed people that put pressure on the country. Illegal immigration is only 1 issue, removing it isnt going to solve all Britain's problems

And just in case anyone does want any statistics, here are some on asylum seekers:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/#:~:text=An%20asylum%20applicant%20who%20does,of%2027%2C500%20applications%20per%20year.

And here are some on broader immigration:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingjune2025

Asylum seekers/refugees account for 0.14% of the population. It is not this tiny number of people who are causing delays in the NHS or other areas.

But none of this will be read by the people who need to read it. They are too busy not looking beyond the headlines to see any facts.

People may not agree with the regime, but that doesn't mean they're not misogynistic, with far more conservative views about women's role and place in society than Britain. Being raised steeped in such misogyny, it would be astonishing if they weren't more misogynistic than the average British male (who is already misogynistic enough, on a population level).

It's not racism, it's xenophobia, as I'm fairly certain that person would want to deny white asylum seekers from Eastern Europe (for example) too, although I may be wrong.

And yes, I think everyone should have access to a GP and basic healthcare. Although I do sympathise with the feelings of those who have to suffer with longer wait times than ever, while seeing asylum seekers get appointments - it must be frustrating. But still, everyone deserves healthcare.

How do you know he wasn’t there protesting or painting roundabouts?

Although I suppose if he was you’d know about it as you’d have seen him when you were out doing the same thing.