My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

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When was the last time you had a home visit? Is this a way of managing the " problem" by them taking clinics there? Is it a way of hiding this issue? I understood they did not have access to the NHS yet I see massive bags of medicine labelled for this hotel too at the dispensary. We wait about 6-7 weeks for a routine appointment.

Unfortunately I don’t think they do anymore, that hasn’t been the case since Thatcher, although that’s the way it works in America.

So from what I understand around 1981 thatcher passed legislation which meant children born of two non-British parents did NOT automatically get citizenship.

Apparently that was done as a way to reduce the amount of people from former commonwealth countries who were being granted citizenship (ie Asians and Africans)

I wish people would stop saying that asylum seekers are prioritised for health care. Because they really aren't. My work includes trying to find doctors for some of our service users who are asylum seekers. It's really difficult, especially when the only surgery that will see someone is an hour's bus ride away and the person has no money for the journey and frankly is often too ill or injured to make the two hour return journey.

It's farcical to say that they're treated better than citizens if this country.

But people will believe anything that Reform and the right wing media lie about and spin.

You’d be clutching your pearls if they were all in the waiting room too I am sure. Can’t win with people like you

Yes and the government has a legal duty. I prefer to treat people as I expect to be treated. As a woman, I don't feel safe amongst these groups of men and I will neither apologise nor make justifications.

My GP completely missed my phone appointment before Xmas because he was at the local care home and overran. Greedy people with learning disabilities getting home visits and claiming benefits while I work for a living and get binned. I'm being sarcastic, in case you weren't sure.

You don't feel safe among those 'groups of men' because you are a racist. They probably wouldn't choose to be near you either.

Ask MN admin what? Unless they were actually with you at the appointment all they know is what you tell them

In my local UHB there’s a health inclusion service so asylum seekers, homeless etc (and those who have been off listed by surgeries due to violence) can access services. It works really well

And you know this because? and how did you see the labelled bags at the dispensary? When I go to the pharmacy there is no way I have sight of anyone else's medication close enough to see any names and addresses not that I would be looking because it is none of my business. Loving your shot of the "country hotel" in the midst of Summer no dobut included in the hope of really riling people up.

Sorry OP, you are on a highway to nowhere with this, the mere fact that everyone is saying asylum seekers and not illegal immigrants, says a lot. Of course we have a moral responsibility for people leaving countries that are war torn or dangerous but not to people who pass through many safe countries just because they want to live here and enter through illegal channels. I’m sure I’ll be flamed for this but so be it.

That's good to hear. Homeless people are of course caught in the same health care trap.

Nobody is here illegally until their claim has been assessed and they have been refused asylum. Our successive governments have decided that, unless in very special circumstances (eg Ukrainians fleeing) there is no route to apply for asylum unless you do it here. Literally the only way to claim asylum in this country (where other members of your family, or a strong community of people who share your language or culture might be) is to arrive here and present yourself in person making a claim. It doesn’t fit the racist dog whistle Farage-led narrative, but it’s the truth. It’s also the truth that numbers of people arriving have fallen 70% in recent times, but none of the slavering, right-wing press is telling you that because they are run by allies of right-wing business and politicians in this country.

France has offered to provide a place in which people can apply to come here, but governments, in particular the Conservative administrations full of the people now defecting to Reform, have refused to take them up on it. So don’t tell me that they are all anti-immigrant and will stop the boats, so you’re going to vote for them. They haven’t, and don’t want to ‘stop the boats’ because they want to have immigrants here in numbers so that they can point you to those people as the architects of all that’s wrong in your lives, rather than you noticing that actually, those politicians aren’t doing anything to help your situation, and are in fact making things worse for you and millions of other ordinary people, while making life much better for themselves their rich, unprincipled friends.

Would you feel the same if he been at a care home? Or was it just the immigrant bit?
if they had been checking no infectious illness that could put the community at risk then the dr was doing his job. Take your pick would you prefer that the community is not protected?

Technically, not wanting immigrants would be xenophobia, not racism.

And the Tories solution was to pay Rwanda to have them, not that they ever managed it. Nige and the Reformers want to pay Afghanistan to have them back. Both parties want to abandon human rights for ALL of us in the process. What's your point exactly?

What do you want us to do about migrants who have immediate healthcare issues? Because not treating them is a wonderful way to spread infectious diseases and plagues amongst our own population.

Your waiting lists on the NHS and GP appointment shortage problems are the result of much more structural chronic issues, Namely underfunding and a growing, sicker population that is living longer.

It baffles me that some people seem to believe this crap about asylum seekers getting instant GPs and iPhones and council houses.

When have you ever known a government spend money that it didn't really have to? Why would they do that?!
And the Mail readers call us naïve... I mean I guess they like fiction that confirms their prejudices, but it does get in the way of any useful political discussion or proper change.

Medical services for asylum and ARP hotels (families, not 'these men' ) are done as a direct contract with GP surgeries, which are almost all private businesses by the way. They see them on site because it is safer for them (because of the racists like OP who want them deported). It is also more time efficient because they can have an interpreter there for the whole clinic. They may not always know in advance exactly what problems are going to come up, so sometimes, it might over run. And so what? If the appointments back in the clinic are routine ones, which will be known in advance, no one comes to any harm etc. The contracts are deliberately set up so that the Afghans are not taking appointments away from local residents.

I don’t wait 6-7 weeks for an appointment. I get one same day if it’s an urgent issue or within 2 weeks for something routine. Maybe your gp knows you as a hypochondriac.

All asylum seekers have immediate access to healthcare upon arrival - that's not crap. Many arrive with health conditions that need urgent medical care whilst they're waiting to be processed.

Or they might spread infectious diseases, or be attacked by baying mobs of flag-enthusiasts. Maybe they’re too ill to walk 20 miles to the nearest GP surgery, and wouldn’t be able to navigate given they don’t know our alphabet and couldn’t read street names.

And on the topic of ‘Benefits Britain’, have a google and see what benefits they’d get in mainland Europe. (if you can’t be bothered I’ll give you a spoiler: It’s broadly the same, or a little more than they’d get in the UK).

This specific shelter accommodates women and children.

But you are happy to deny people basic human requirements.

You keep asking "what can be done" but you're failing to even Google it to realise a lot has been done. Immigration has significantly decreased from the surge (cause by Brexit).

Your Dr going to the hotel to treat all the people there that need help instead of issuing them individual appointments in the surgery sounds very practical. Dr's take an oath to help people, not juat citizens of the country they live in.

Also, you really out yourself by saying "these men"

Just a quick Google tells you;

"Under the Labour government (elected in late 2024), net migration has significantly decreased, falling by over two-thirds by mid-2025, returning to pre-2021 levels after a post-Brexit surge"

A lot of people have been successfully duped into thinking immigration is the worst thing happening and it completely distracts them from realising whose really making our lives harder and miserable.

Hang on, who said that?

My understanding is that asylum seekers in the UK are entitled to free NHS healthcare, including GP services, hospital treatment (A&E, secondary care), and mental health services, while their claim is being processed

I would suggest, as we've historically done very well and benefitted from to a huge extent as a country, that genuine refugees are enabled to settle, build lives and contribute (particularly as our economy is failing, we have an ageing population and a dearth of skilled, able and educated younger people). Where people aren't genuine refugees then they need to be returned home.

It might help you feel better to look into the real numbers of asylum seekers currently accommodated here (it's not huge and is a drop in the ocean in terms of demands on our resources and the factors that affect your ability to access health services). Also if you look into it you will be surprised how many people you know of who are part of the fabric of British life that were originally refugees, and that will help you see more of the potential positives for the UK/you.

Like you, they are just people, blood and flesh, particles. Just people.

Also, it isn't a home visit is it. These people don't have a home.