My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

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When was the last time you had a home visit? Is this a way of managing the " problem" by them taking clinics there? Is it a way of hiding this issue? I understood they did not have access to the NHS yet I see massive bags of medicine labelled for this hotel too at the dispensary. We wait about 6-7 weeks for a routine appointment.

Hello. Were you still seen the sane day?

*same

Whatever you say yes it is a goady post and I don't believe you wait 6 weeks for an appointment. You certainly wouldn't if it was urgent. I had an appointment the same day when I had a suspected chest infection and so did my husband
You have no idea why the doctors were at the centre, what the situation was or who they were treating. And I am am sure that your treatment has not been affected because they are also treating other people who need treatment.

You’re right that the government has a responsibility to adequately provide infrastructure for its citizens, taking into account the need of those who arrive here because of issues like war, poverty, climate change etc.

Your focus on “men” shows you to be suspicious and narrow minded. There are many women and children among asylum seekers. Where they are men alone, it can be because the journeys are costly and perilous.

The problems in the world are such that if you’re going to get angsty about your
GP being a bit late, sadly I think you’re going to find it very difficult to handle the future we all face. Climate change is changing the world for the worst, and we’re lucky that the most obvious effect we can see it immigration. It won’t always be the case.

Well as they are banned from working whilst awaiting their case being heard, it's not exactly their fault they can't work! 🤔🙄

GPs are private businesses. They have NHS contracts but also run private consultations.

^^This. We send one nurse into a big care home in our area two mornings a week seeing all the residents that the staff are concerned about (we don’t require a referral in advance). Anyone who can think clearly can see it’s better and more time efficient for us; its obviously better to do 2 long visits a week than numerous short visits randomly spread through the working day, secondly we then can staff the two days accordingly. It’s better for the care home staff they can ensure a member of staff is available to accompany the nurse and also for the residents and their families it’s better often families want to meet with the nurse to discuss the progress of a wound etc.
If the OPs practice has a contract to provide health care to a hotel housing asylum seekers homeless etc I’m sure they take the same view.

What is your actual issue?

Would you have said the same if the Dr had been at a nursing home? Or a school?

I'm surprised that so many surgeries still require patients to use the "mad 8am system".

All the surgeries round here have an online system where you submit a request, which is triaged. Then you get an appointment with the doctor(F2F or telephone, according to whether a physical exam is needed), an appointment with the practice nurse, a message saying they've sent a prescription to your nominated pharmacy, a referral to another service if that is more appropriate (I was referred to physiotherapy the same morning as I submitted my online request).

It works brilliantly, and when a GP appt is needed, it's usually the same day or the next working day. And because it's so successful, there's a lot more receptionist time available to respond to phone calls from people who don't have internet access or aren't tech savvy enough to use it.

My MIL's surgery 40 miles away in outer London operates something similar, and she makes online appointments perfectly happily at the age of 87!

The proportion of NHS staff that are immigrants is generally higher than the proportion of the local population that are immigrants. Without immigrants the NHS would collapse.

The administrators of Mumsnet are an absolute disgrace. The last time I looked, this thread had been pulled. It is racist, trolling and full of misinformation. How on earth it is back, I do not know. Well, I do. It's back because they don't care as long as they make money.

How did we get to this point where social media owners are so greedy that their morals are nowhere to be seen.

You e still not asked a question.

What does this situation have to do with council housing?

You are aware these people are entitled to treatment and it’s a better use of time to see them all at once than for example arrange 20 translators a week?

Thryre humans

If I had £1 for every time this has had to be explained on here, I'd probably have enough to pay for a GP to provide care for everyone in an asylum seeker hostel for a year.

I think some just don't want to believe it's legal to arrive in a country to claim asylum. I had to explain it to my SIL and BIL the other day, and I'm positive I've explained it to them at least twice.

Tbf with nurses, it's a way of keeping the wages low. If it was paid and staffed properly, it would be uk staff. It's another way of exploiting overseas workers.

They probably will jump the housing queue though at some point though. There has been a scandal in the London boroughs about corruption in housing.

does anyone ever get deported in all honesty

People's medical concerns/needs are none of your business.

I echo this. The most protected group will always get the usual wrapping up in cotton wool. If only they appreciated the virtuous efforts.

We had an asylum hotel in the village near our town (I worked there - the hotel) Our doctors' surgery ran a clinic there once a week.

Strangely enough, there were many problems caused by escaping tyranny, things like unhealed bone breaks, infections due to being run-down and travelling for 130hours in less than sanitary conditions.
Wounds that wont heal. Deep mental health issues. Infections - parasitic, fungal, bacterial, viral - you name it.
Most folks have a bit of empathy and compassion.

Yes. My voluntary work is with asylum seekers, and yes many of those whose claims are rejected are removed to their home country.

(For accuracy, deportation is the term for those who have committed criminal offences; removal is the term for sending failed asylum seekers back to their home country)

Wait until the OP finds out that a baby born in the UK (regardless of the parents status) becomes a Uk citizen! I can’t wait to see the reaction for that.

Healthcare, shelter and food&drink are basic human requirements, you think it should not be provided?

This happens more than people realise. I think AS are often houses in large groups in hotels and GP's go to them because they can't use NHS. It's wrong they are prioritised as not paid into NHS system but once an AS is accepted they have to be housed, given medical attention etc somewhere.

Makes perfect sense , an interpreter can be available for a block of time and many patients can be seen in a much more condensed timeframe

Much cheaper and cost effective for public purse to send one doctor to hold a clinic there than each one bus or taxi.
Op dont you want doctors checking for tb or other notifiable diseases?
If your routine appt can wait 6 weeks so be it. If you have a health issue Do your e consult be triaged and get a call back in 24 hours.

'To build new homes for these men...' Do you get your news from the Daily Mail or The Express?