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Per se

77 replies

YourFairCyanReader · 16/01/2026 16:39

I first learned the phrase 'per se' when I was at school, and at that time hardly anyone ever used it. It was considered a bit pretentious.
Over the last year I keep hearing it. I even heard my teenaged kids use it. I keep seeing it on threads here.

AIBU to think Per se is now entering common parlance, for the first time?

Why is this?

Any other Latin phrases on the ascendant?

OP posts:
Placetobreathe · 16/01/2026 16:45

I haven't particularly seen or heard people using it.

If they are then surely it's a good thing?
Makes a change from the total dumbing down of the English language that has been normal for many years

Elsvieta · 16/01/2026 16:47

Dunno, but I don't mind as people don't write it as per say, as I've seen several times on here.

GeneralPeter · 16/01/2026 16:49

Tempora mutantur, innit.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/01/2026 16:53

Elsvieta · 16/01/2026 16:47

Dunno, but I don't mind as people don't write it as per say, as I've seen several times on here.

Closely linked to the execrable 'ect'.

Sminty2 · 16/01/2026 16:55

GeneralPeter · 16/01/2026 16:49

Tempora mutantur, innit.

nos et mutamur in illis …

GeneralPeter · 16/01/2026 17:00

Sminty2 · 16/01/2026 16:55

nos et mutamur in illis …

Inshallah.

thecatneuterer · 16/01/2026 17:05

It's always been in common parlance as far as I'm concerned. I've always used it and often heard it. It's a very common part of the language.

YourFairCyanReader · 16/01/2026 17:08

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/01/2026 16:53

Closely linked to the execrable 'ect'.

Make it stop!

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CurlewKate · 16/01/2026 17:14

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/01/2026 16:53

Closely linked to the execrable 'ect'.

Au contraire.The use of “etc” shows a well stocked mental library.🤣

Crunchymum · 16/01/2026 17:17

I actually use it (correctly!) quite regularly.

Makes me want to poke my eyeballs out to see it spelt per say, or worse persay / per-say.

JaneJeffer · 16/01/2026 17:17

The Romans they go the house

NooNooHead · 16/01/2026 17:19

I used to like it when one of my university lecturers used the word "quasi". I'd never heard of it before, and then started to try and use it as much as possible, alongside other phrases like per se.

Pretentious, moi? 😆🤣

APC303 · 16/01/2026 17:41

The law does not concern itself with trifle...

De minimis curat lex.

Causally drop that into everyday conversations.

Unsure how to reword to explain that the law does not concern itself with trifle but is partial to butterscotch Angel Delight.

YourFairCyanReader · 16/01/2026 18:09

APC303 · 16/01/2026 17:41

The law does not concern itself with trifle...

De minimis curat lex.

Causally drop that into everyday conversations.

Unsure how to reword to explain that the law does not concern itself with trifle but is partial to butterscotch Angel Delight.

Isn't there a 'non' after minimis? A solicitor said this to me once during a court case and I was very impressed and remembered it since!

OP posts:
Mucholderlittlewiser · 16/01/2026 18:26

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/01/2026 16:53

Closely linked to the execrable 'ect'.

Ect makes my teeth itch.

RichardTemplethatbeatingRythm · 16/01/2026 18:32

Crunchymum · 16/01/2026 17:17

I actually use it (correctly!) quite regularly.

Makes me want to poke my eyeballs out to see it spelt per say, or worse persay / per-say.

Or Percy..just playing😁

Montymorency · 16/01/2026 18:49

Specta Io Quod Feles Intraxit😽

NearCanongate · 16/01/2026 18:52

APC303 · 16/01/2026 17:41

The law does not concern itself with trifle...

De minimis curat lex.

Causally drop that into everyday conversations.

Unsure how to reword to explain that the law does not concern itself with trifle but is partial to butterscotch Angel Delight.

How about de minimise curax lex, sed amat delictio angeli quandary est oleum Hiberniae

I'm on the tram so its guesswork and rather laboured.

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 16/01/2026 18:53

It's used loads... Confused

NearCanongate · 16/01/2026 18:55

That should have been quando. Wretched autocorrect! And I don't know the Latin for butter so I had to go with oil.

Dolamroth · 16/01/2026 18:55

JaneJeffer · 16/01/2026 17:17

The Romans they go the house

Conjugate the verb to go? Romans go home is an order!

soupyspoon · 16/01/2026 18:56

I use it a lot and have done for decades.

Hopefully in all the wrong contexts.

FullLondonEye · 16/01/2026 18:57

I don't think what you're noticing is an increased use of 'per se', I believe it's actually the introduction of 'persay', used liberally and incorrectly by those hoping to sound intelligent but with all the mental capacity of a loaf of bread.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 16/01/2026 19:00

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/01/2026 16:53

Closely linked to the execrable 'ect'.

Indeed 😂

I say it a lot, and hear it said a lot. Don't see it written all that much.

squashyhat · 16/01/2026 19:05

I'm very happy to announce I learned what 'quid pro quo' actually means today. And will henceforth sprinkle it liberally in conversation with my cat, e.g. I accept your present of a half-chewed vole in quid pro quo for you not clawing the furniture 🤔(fat chance)

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