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AIBU?

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Should I be proud or angry??

381 replies

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

OP posts:
hopefullyme · 13/01/2026 18:48

I think the school should suspend both. The racism should have been addressed well before this. It should be taken into account in level of punishment.

However the school cannot act regarding your sons behaviour based on his martial art, just a kick to the head.

if it is fine what about another child with no skill at all sees that there is no consequence, does the same and just luck no injury. Presumably they should have the same punishment as your son.

Then someone badly bullied kicks the bully in the head knowing that the school just expect you to look after yourself and don’t punish either bullies or violence by victims to sort it out. They seriously injure the bully, suspension but also police

travellinglighter · 13/01/2026 18:49

I’d be going back to the school and saying my son has now been punished appropriately by me, he will be back in school tomorrow and I expect a more severe punishment for the bully given that he was initially violent and his violence was racially aggravated. If this isn’t the case then I feel we need to speak to the local authority and my MP regarding your failure to keep my child safe.

LlynTegid · 13/01/2026 18:49

I wish it had never come to this, don't blame your son although it is wrong.

I think you should be asking them why they did not take racism seriously. If their response is inadequate, and you feel comfortable in doing so after all complaints processes have been followed, this would in my opinion be valid to raise with Ofsted.

PGmicstand · 13/01/2026 18:49

Firstly, I'm appalled that the school haven't seemingly done anything to manage the racist abuse your son has suffered, and I'm sorry he's had to put up with it.

Secondly, the bully kept on taunting and should have had the common sense to realise that at some point, someone would fight back (I'm assuming this is the sort of person that would pick on anyone they saw as 'lesser')

However, I don't think kicking someone in the head was the right response. I do understand it was a heat of the moment reaction in response to provocation but as PP's have said, there could have been different outcomes. In a Dojo there would be the appropriate flooring and surfaces to manage falls, but in a school setting, there's not.

Again, as others have said, I'd be asking the school to show you the documented instances of abuse your son has suffered and the protocol they followed [you may be able to view their procedures and policies online, most schools post them on their webpage].

I think some form of punishment would be due to both parties as your son could have caused severe injury, albeit that he is very aware of how to use his martial art. The bully should be punished for his act of violence. In light of the issues leading up to this incident, I'd expect the more severe punishment to be given to the bully.

BountifulPantry · 13/01/2026 18:49

Good for him.

aCatCalledFawkes · 13/01/2026 18:50

usedtobeaylis · 13/01/2026 18:43

That is no help to a teenage boy.

It's not no but the reality is these are teenage boys who are the same size as full grown men also trying to act like men and be older than they are. Whilst I don't condone the violence, if the teen grows up acting like he can say anything to anyone now he will eventually find out the hard way when he goes out on a night in a town or a city just what could happen to him if he says the wrong thing which could be a lot lot worse. The bullying does 100% need to be dealt with and unfortunately this time and for my son, they got in there before the school did, even after school saying they were dealing with it.

AmyJahabee · 13/01/2026 18:51

well done to your son. Emotional abuse he tolerated and racial abuse is too much and will harm his self esteem which is as serious as physical harm.

stand by your son and ask the school to provide you with all the incidents of the racial, physical abuse and harassment he was subjected to by this boy.

then ask the school what actions have they taken to punish the bully for it?

why is your son the only been punished?

The school could also be racist!!

lastly make a formal complaint about the whole situation.

look after your son self esteem and makesure he you tell him how proud you are of him

Feyra777 · 13/01/2026 18:51

I voted YANBU as I'd be secretly proud of my son too but his go to defence cannot be a kick to the head 🙈. You need to speak to him about that, he could of accidently killed the bully today

He was absolutely within his rights to defend himself but given his experience, a kick to the head was too much

aCatCalledFawkes · 13/01/2026 18:56

travellinglighter · 13/01/2026 18:49

I’d be going back to the school and saying my son has now been punished appropriately by me, he will be back in school tomorrow and I expect a more severe punishment for the bully given that he was initially violent and his violence was racially aggravated. If this isn’t the case then I feel we need to speak to the local authority and my MP regarding your failure to keep my child safe.

Having just been through this, I don't think it's unreasonable to take suspension as time out and a learning curve. When I picked my son up he was so angry and still coming down from it all. He went to stay with my parents for a couple of days and came back a lot more chilled out.

SeenItAllMostly · 13/01/2026 19:00

Good for your son. That’s exactly how a RACIST bully should be treated!!!
IMO he got what he deserved and it was well over due!!!

in terms of “schools non tolerance for bullying and violence” ask them for a full report and repercussions for the bullying and harassment your son has endured since this began.
i would write a full report using chat gpt upload all the school’s policies and procedures then all the texts screenshots or write in incidents and dates and then it will do it all for you. If they continue to single out your son I’d be escalating that stage one complaint.
sorry to say the school sounds racist too and if you feel they are then they need to be held accountable too.

MarmaladeWhiskers · 13/01/2026 19:03

That's one heck of a wall of text. My eyes gave up Grin

socrateswasrigthaboutvoting · 13/01/2026 19:08

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

There were not two wrongs. The OPs son drew a line.

Zanatdy · 13/01/2026 19:08

He could have killed him and unfortunately despite the fact he’s been bullied, the law doesn’t allow for that much force in retaliation. So i’d make sure he understands that this could have turned out very differently. Not sure i’d be angry, but more a teaching moment.

DailyEnergyCrisis · 13/01/2026 19:10

Well done to your DS but I agree with those saying to encourage a safer defence option than a kick to the head (preferably something more painful though). Even just to protect your DS from accusations of serious assault (though in my view that would be justified).

But he should be validated by the school for not accepting racist and physically aggressive behaviour and I would expect a lengthy suspension for the racist bully this time and permanent exclusive if it happens again.

Jeschara · 13/01/2026 19:13

Well done to your son. I know I would be proud of him if he was mine.
I would also be asking about the Schools inaction re the racism and bullying by the other child, and why your son was suspended when the other boy was not.

GreyCloudsAbove · 13/01/2026 19:13

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

Oh they do in case of bullies. That is literally the only way to teach bully a lesson!

OP well done to your son. I hate bullies and it will most likely deter others, not only from going after your son, but hopefully all others too.

ShowmetheMapletree · 13/01/2026 19:13

Namenamchange · 13/01/2026 17:05

I think it was fine to retaliate, but completely wrong to kick him in the head. Your son could have killed him, and the outcome for your son would now be very different.
The school should have safeguarded your son before this incident, and shoulder some responsibility, however your son was completely wrong and should have kicked him anywhere but his head

Edited

Yes, I completely agree with this. Always encourage mine to stick up for themselves, it is just the head that concerns me. I bet you can be certain the bully won't go near him again at least!

Definitely take the racism further; put that back on the school, and ask them why they haven't dealt with it, and if they had, the incident would not have even occurred in tbe first place!

Sophiablue95 · 13/01/2026 19:13

Good for him. I used to get horribly bullied by a little cretin. One day he tried to throw my school bag out of the top floor window and I lamped him one.

Never said a word again (except the cheeky fucker tried to ask me out on a date years later).

Your poor son. I would be taking the racial abuse further if the school aren’t dealing with it.

AmyDudley · 13/01/2026 19:17

hesaman · 13/01/2026 17:07

He was physically attacked and acted in self defence. Playground rules - that kid won't bother him again.

Tell him not to aim for the head. Liver shot.

Edited

I know a young lad who nearly died from a playful (not at all malicious) punch that ruptured his liver. Your suggestion is insane.

Thulpelly · 13/01/2026 19:21

I would be proud of him for standing up for himself against racist bullies but have a serious talk about the fact he kicked him in the head.
If he had done serious damage to the other boy it would impacted both their lives. Next time sweep the leg, Johnny!

PersephonePomegranate · 13/01/2026 19:21

Back him all the way, OP.

The school need to be questioned on their stance on racial abuse.

Lovetheschoolholidays · 13/01/2026 19:22

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

I also don’t condone violence but this bully kept on and on! For it to stop the kick, in this instance, was most certainly needed.

Sorry your son has had to go through this, hopefully now he can attend school in peace.

Aworldofwonder · 13/01/2026 19:23

When I was his age I punched someone in the head. This person was absolutely deserving. Nobody disagreed with that. However they flew backwards landed on the ground and didn't move.

Although it became a funny story after they got up and had a hysterical meltdown my mother has often reminded me that if they had hit their head and died my life would have been very very different.

I think you need to have a long talk about appropriate reactions and consequences.

Also my DC is mixed race and we are raising them to never overlook racism so I applaud him for that.

pikkumyy77 · 13/01/2026 19:24

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

Very naive to think that.

Wayk · 13/01/2026 19:25

I agree he should hit back but kicking someone in the head could kill him and destroy your son’s future. The boy is a bully but your son needs to be careful.

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