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Adult daughter stuck as the 'capable one' – Mum's learned helplessness.

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:19

I’m a woman in my late 30s. My parents are both around and still married. I have an older sister (married, with two children) and a younger brother who lives with my parents.

For years, I’ve been the default 'capable one' in the family - not because my siblings aren’t capable, but because it’s the 'role' I’ve been put in. If something needs doing (usually for my Mum) - banking, bills, admin, planning trips - it lands on me. In fairness, my Dad is very capable and handles a lot, but my Mum is very secretive and suspicious and wants me to handle her admin and banking. She feels that if my Dad did it, he would get access to her money (which is money he gave her throughout the marriage).

She presents as very helpless. This isn’t due to any disability or cognitive issue - she’s physically well - but she has never worked and has no interest in learning basic admin because she knows someone (usually me) will step in. She’ll say things like 'I don’t know' or 'What can I do?' or 'My English isn’t good' - often followed by tears.

I have tried setting boundaries. I’ve been clear in the past that I can’t keep doing everything. She did listen for a while, but gradually slipped back into old patterns, asking again and again until I gave in or approaching things indirectly.

A good example is that she regularly asks me to plan holidays for her and my Dad but won’t offer a single preference, idea - or opinion. If I don’t plan it, nothing happens - and then she complains about never going anywhere.

What’s really started to bother me is how instrumental the contact feels. Recently I was very unwell - and she asked how I was feeling and whether I was off sick from work (I was), but it became clear she was really checking whether I was 'available' to do admin for her. She even offered to bring me soup, but it didn’t feel genuine - it felt like a way to keep me on side so I’d help her with her admin. Turns out, my gut was correct.

At home (which I’ve now stopped visiting because it makes me anxious), she would also do things like pinch me under the table to get my attention or ask me to 'help in the kitchen,' then shut the door and use it as an opportunity to quietly complain about my Dad or extended family. She will write a complaint in her Apple Notes and then present the screen to me as if I’m supposed to look at a photo, when really she wants me to read the words quietly. I find this very uncomfortable and manipulative, and it’s damaged my trust. I do not want to be around her anymore.

My father once asked me to buy a Ring camera on Amazon since I have Prime. That was no problem. When I later asked how it was working, he said, 'Haven’t opened it yet. Will wait for you to come and set it up.' So every visit, I was expected to be 'tech support.' This time I said no, and I haven’t been to see them in just under a year. I didn’t even see them this past Christmas.

There’s also a big imbalance in the wider picture. My brother lives in the family home rent-free and will inherit it. It’s been mortgage-free for over 20 years. He is in his 30s and has the entire top floor of the house. All his cooking, cleaning, and laundry are done for him, and he has never paid a bill in his life. He is 35. He only started working a few months ago, and his income is entirely his own. My sister and her children will inherit a large chunk of money. I’ll receive the smallest share - yet I’m the one expected to do the emotional and practical labour to keep everything running.

Since I’ve reduced contact and stopped going over as much, my life has been noticeably calmer, which has made me realise how stressful that role was. But the guilt is intense when I say no, especially as I know that if I don’t step in, things simply don’t get done. I’m now continuing to step back completely from helping with admin and banking and holding those boundaries firm, but I’m struggling with the feeling that I’m being 'cruel' or abandoning them, even though I know rationally I’m just refusing an unfair role I’ve been pushed into for years.

Has anyone dealt with learned helplessness like this in a parent? How do you hold boundaries when they’re initially respected but then slowly eroded - and how do you manage the guilt when you’re the one everyone relies on by default? I fear that when my Dad goes, I’ll become the full-time caretaker for my Mum - which would be reasonable if she were genuinely incapable, but not if this is simply learned helplessness.

OP posts:
Oioiqueen · 13/01/2026 12:09

In regard to the admin surely she isn't this useless? Computers have been around for a good 30 years minimum in workplaces and less in homes. What admin is she requiring that she hasn't been able to aquire in that time? Surely she has used computers and the like during her working life? The only age group I'd expect to be incompetent with it now is 80+

smallglassbottle · 13/01/2026 12:13

It's really difficult and I can empathise. Mil was like this with dh and his sibling (golden child) lived in another country so everything fell to him. She acted like a child and wouldn't express preferences or take control, nothing. In the end she fell and ended up in a care home because she couldn't be trusted not to be doing things she shouldn't in her flat, so was unsuitable for care at home. Sil wanted her home and we were on the verge of telling her to come and get mil and look after her abroad as we couldn't cope anymore. She behaved herself with sil, but not dh and wore him out. In the end he couldn't even face visiting her in the care home and he wasn't there when she died. There's only so much you can take.

I'd advise you to draw some pretty strict boundaries and force her to do stuff and make decisions, or she can just get on with it. She should get a handyman in to do repairs and address the tech problems and who she could get to help with that. It's so demoralising to be met at the door with a never ending list of tasks and you end up not being able to face visits.

pikkumyy77 · 13/01/2026 12:16

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 04:33

She sounds like a narcissist. The "vulnerable" type that likes to play victim. Dad is the enabler. Golden balls bro is the revered golden child who can do no wrong. I guess you're the scapegoat, and your other sister is keeping her head down understandably.

There's not much you can do except go very very low contact or no contact because as you've discovered, trying to maintain boundaries against a manipulative narcissist is almost impossible and very exhausting trying.

For the guilt, realising you've been trained into the role of helper, fixer, rescuer since the day you were born and so will naturally feel guilty about giving up the role that you've been indoctrinated to believe is yours. It's misplaced though, because that's not actually your purpose in life, that was just lies told to you. So sit with the feeling as long as it takes for it to pass, which it will.

See the guilt as a symptom of your dysfunction and be kind to yourself, getting yourself any professional help you may need to get through it. Don't return to their toxicity just because it feels like normality. It isn't normal at all.

This is basically it. Work on these issues of family toxicity and stop worrying about whether you can change this dunamic. You can’t. You can only escape or stay trapped.

LoftyPlumLion · 13/01/2026 12:32

If it’s any consolation you aren’t alone MIL does this with us, although in our case FIL does everything for her but she still just complains about him.

BIL is golden boy but disengaged because she is so difficult.

we think it is part learned/enabled incompetence as you say but in our case we think she is on the spectrum

we worry that if FIL goes then we will have to do everything.

sorry, no real solutions there but you’re not alone facing this pressure.

ZenGarden89 · 13/01/2026 18:06

I hear you and sending you hugs @fireandice26. I’m going through something very similar myself currently and am in therapy for burnout. The process is enlightening, painful, guilt-ridden and liberating all at once.

For years I’ve always considered myself very close to my elderly mother but realise I’ve been the parentified daughter for far too long. She has unlimited access to me, I am her emotional support system. If I have something distressing happening in my life all my energy is spent comforting HER about it. She phones my crying, endlessly complaining and has, for years, told me I’m such a good daughter and am the only person she can turn to for support which is not actually a healthy parent-child dynamic irrespective of age. This in turn has caused me to have overly heightened levels of empathy and a desire to please. My siblings are never burdened with the endless emotional dumping.

Please read Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents and I can guarantee it will resonate.

Its hard putting boundaries in place and I’m still relatively new to it but I can already feeling calmer after years and years of my nervous system being on high alert in my ‘duty’ to fix, arrange, reassure and soothe.

You’ve got this xx

Kindling1970 · 13/01/2026 19:07

Gabor Maté's key quote on guilt and resentment advises choosing guilt over resentment when faced with a choice, stating,
If a refusal saddles you with guilt, while consent leaves resentment in its wake, opt for the guilt. Resentment is soul suicide". He explains that while guilt can be a signal of violating your truth (like setting boundaries), resentment, born from suppressing needs or saying "yes" when you mean "no," corrodes the self, leading to stress and illness, making guilt the healthier, albeit uncomfortable, choice.

Spirallingdownwards · 13/01/2026 19:15

You have taken the first step which is to stop seeing them. Now the next is complete NC and block them.

PearAndGingerCake · 13/01/2026 19:48

Don’t give in. It’s a new boundary and way of life for you so you are still learning but you are doing the healthy thing long term. Don’t turn back and undo all your hard work. Go through all the grief steps and eventually you’ll reach acceptance and be at peace with it. You can do it!

timetofight · 13/01/2026 20:17

Yes I have a similar situation where I am the capable one, I have been doing less and less. It’s always been me and I’m sick of it. The resentment I’m getting from my siblings despite them being in their 40s and 50s is laughable and I simply don’t care anymore. I also have a particularly useless brother in his 50s. Also if you aren’t inheriting as much as them despite you doing everything I think you should completely step away.

Uhghg · 13/01/2026 20:19

I could have written this myself.

For years I’ve done everything, especially for my mum.

But it weaponised incompetence.

My mum is very good at making you feel very bad.

My final straw was when she begged me to drive an 80 mile round trip after work to help her fill in a job application the day before it was due.
She had known about the job for a month and I kept reminding her to do it before the deadline but she waited until the day before so I couldn’t say no.
I was tired from work so I just cracked on with it and I asked her details and she didn’t reply. I waited and looked for her but she wasn’t in the house - turns out she’d gone to the cinema!
I didn’t finish it and told her to finish it when she gets home - she didn’t and then blamed me for not getting the job.

After that I refuse to do it.
I will help but she has to sit there and do it herself. I will just tell her what to do.
Its amazing how many things she decides doesn’t need doing now she’s got to do something.

I would use the excuse that you want her to learn for herself incase anything happens to you.
You can talk her through it step by step but she needs to be physically doing it herself.

godmum56 · 13/01/2026 20:21

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 04:33

She sounds like a narcissist. The "vulnerable" type that likes to play victim. Dad is the enabler. Golden balls bro is the revered golden child who can do no wrong. I guess you're the scapegoat, and your other sister is keeping her head down understandably.

There's not much you can do except go very very low contact or no contact because as you've discovered, trying to maintain boundaries against a manipulative narcissist is almost impossible and very exhausting trying.

For the guilt, realising you've been trained into the role of helper, fixer, rescuer since the day you were born and so will naturally feel guilty about giving up the role that you've been indoctrinated to believe is yours. It's misplaced though, because that's not actually your purpose in life, that was just lies told to you. So sit with the feeling as long as it takes for it to pass, which it will.

See the guilt as a symptom of your dysfunction and be kind to yourself, getting yourself any professional help you may need to get through it. Don't return to their toxicity just because it feels like normality. It isn't normal at all.

This. All of this. You hold the boundaries by holding the boundaries. It won't be easy because as @rainonfriday says you have been trained since childhood but you CAN do it.

WtP · 13/01/2026 21:43

Oioiqueen · 13/01/2026 12:09

In regard to the admin surely she isn't this useless? Computers have been around for a good 30 years minimum in workplaces and less in homes. What admin is she requiring that she hasn't been able to aquire in that time? Surely she has used computers and the like during her working life? The only age group I'd expect to be incompetent with it now is 80+

I agree with all that, but I get the impression her mother has never worked.
Full-time housewife as born out by the money situation?
I feel for the OP as I have been the "fixer" in the family including In Laws though thankfully my sister-in-law has seen her parents were relying on me way too much, and we have both worked to put things in place. Though they are both in their late 80's.

Greenlandss · 13/01/2026 21:57

You have been used, controlled and manipulated for so long that guilt is your default mode.
Well done for not visiting.
Continue to be unavailable.
Keep saying no.
Don't respond to requests.
Be very busy at work.
Keep saying "ask your son".

Better to have little inheritance that years ahead of dealing with such abuse.

Counselling for you would be great to help resolve your unwarranted guilt.
You have done more than enough.
Don't allow your future to be controlled by her.

paimio · 13/01/2026 22:02

This sounds like my DM. The only way to stop it was to go NC. My lightening bolt moment was when she informed me something in her house was broken at 5am in the morning (the implication being I should do something to fix it) when she knew I was in hospital and very unwell (and stress would exacerbate my condition).

We’ve been NC/ LC for over a year now and remarkably she’s figured it all out!

Laurmolonlabe · 13/01/2026 22:11

I wouldn't do my parents admin unless they were suffering from dementia or over 80- you need to set boundaries and stick to them.
We would all like someone to take the burden of boring admin off us, but we have to buckle down and do it, having to do admin for one household is plenty.

chipsticksmammy · 13/01/2026 22:28

Elderly aunt of DH did this to me while visiting for Christmas.

A list will appear when she visits.

It became my fault when she couldn’t log into a website that said on the front page it was down for maintenance.

I then got abuse as she refuses to use online banking or a smart phone. Demanded I cancel her insurance as she doesn’t want to deal with web pages that go down.

I am nothing to this woman really but I have been singled out as the competent helper. I suspect everyone else has given up over the years.

This year was different though. The abuse was then followed by a sulk and she ruined pudding with her bad mood. I went and sat in my bedroom until she went to bed.

She will not be invited back and all help is now refused.

Good luck OP, it’s horrible to feel used but continue to keep your distance. It’s not worth the torment.

2021x · 13/01/2026 22:35

No advice but I have a similar situation with my mum, where I was the default "therapist". It all came to a head last year. I tried to set boundaries but she just walked compelely through them, so have gone very very low contact.

I still had so much hope that if I started to behave differently then she would learn to respect me, until the therapist said very clearly that her view of me will never change and it hit me in the chest like a canonball. I then grieved the loss of hope that I would be seen as a person by her and only be seen as a tool to make her feel better. Why this is the dynamic I don't know.

When people say "their children cut them off" its important to remember that sometimes it isnt because of their childhood, but how they are treated as an adult. I have read a book "Adult Children of Emmotionally Immature Parents" and it helped understand what emmotional maturity is and isn't (i.e. its not narcisssim) and also realise that despite all the work I have done, I am emmotionally immature as well. That is what I am focusing on now so I can stop going around in these insane circles of self-pity.

MaddestGranny · 13/01/2026 22:50

GreenGodiva · 12/01/2026 19:24

You need to keep on doing exactly what you are doing! Stay away from them and let them offload all of this admin onto their other two adult children. Stay away.

i would also consider getting some therapy to help you shore up your boundraries and keep them firm. And when you have built up some resilience I would start actively telling them WHY you are avoiding them.

exactly this

MaddestGranny · 13/01/2026 22:53

Greenlandss · 13/01/2026 21:57

You have been used, controlled and manipulated for so long that guilt is your default mode.
Well done for not visiting.
Continue to be unavailable.
Keep saying no.
Don't respond to requests.
Be very busy at work.
Keep saying "ask your son".

Better to have little inheritance that years ahead of dealing with such abuse.

Counselling for you would be great to help resolve your unwarranted guilt.
You have done more than enough.
Don't allow your future to be controlled by her.

this

ShakespeareInTurmoil · 13/01/2026 23:02

My DM’s helplessness has been present all my life but I only realised in the last couple of decades, since my father has been unwell, quite how willfully helpless she is.

I have no siblings so it’s just me. I’ve felt like tech support, chauffeur, handyman, administrator and general dogsbody for years. She would produce a list of jobs every time I went round and I really, really, really resented it. It’s got better because I see much less of her now (many guilt trips) but it was crushing me, and still does at times. I still drive her once a week to see my father in his carehome (she can drive but won’t go anywhere within a very close radius) and order things off the internet for her (she has never learnt despite explaining it hundreds and hundreds of times) and deal with various admin but I’ve put in boundaries. I don’t react to her mournful monologues about things that need doing. As a solvent, educated fit and healthy woman she is capable of finding a solution.

I’ve enabled this, as did my father. She can’t even order a taxi by herself. I remember having to teach her how to use a cash machine. She won’t call companies on the phone and can’t even get an insurance quote. She truly believes all these things should be done by someone else as it’s not her responsibility.

I feel your pain.

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 23:40

I even got 'she's your mum too' yesterday to...

😆 WTF. Where's the logic? So you're his sister now? Ask him why he's shagging his sister then! 💀 The weirdo.

Seriously though, watch out for him. He's her enabler and your secondary abuser. He's not just carelessly and thoughtlessly throwing you under the bus. You've planted your feet and crossed your arms nope, in response he's gone fetched a battering ram and is trying to shove you under it with all his might. You're right about stress making you ill. That includes the stress of continually shoring up your boundaries against people like your husband. Take care.

GreenJeIIy · 14/01/2026 00:39

Christ how much admin do they have? Examples?
Stop doing it FGS!

pineapplesundae · 14/01/2026 02:33

Looks like you did a good job saving yourself, keep it up! Let brother know that mom will be his responsibility when and if dad goes first.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/01/2026 02:46

It’s not entirely her fault, she fell through the cracks raising children and most likely lost any ambition there.
Technology is daunting for a lot of people.
You have to pull back, let them rely on your other siblings.

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