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Adult daughter stuck as the 'capable one' – Mum's learned helplessness.

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:19

I’m a woman in my late 30s. My parents are both around and still married. I have an older sister (married, with two children) and a younger brother who lives with my parents.

For years, I’ve been the default 'capable one' in the family - not because my siblings aren’t capable, but because it’s the 'role' I’ve been put in. If something needs doing (usually for my Mum) - banking, bills, admin, planning trips - it lands on me. In fairness, my Dad is very capable and handles a lot, but my Mum is very secretive and suspicious and wants me to handle her admin and banking. She feels that if my Dad did it, he would get access to her money (which is money he gave her throughout the marriage).

She presents as very helpless. This isn’t due to any disability or cognitive issue - she’s physically well - but she has never worked and has no interest in learning basic admin because she knows someone (usually me) will step in. She’ll say things like 'I don’t know' or 'What can I do?' or 'My English isn’t good' - often followed by tears.

I have tried setting boundaries. I’ve been clear in the past that I can’t keep doing everything. She did listen for a while, but gradually slipped back into old patterns, asking again and again until I gave in or approaching things indirectly.

A good example is that she regularly asks me to plan holidays for her and my Dad but won’t offer a single preference, idea - or opinion. If I don’t plan it, nothing happens - and then she complains about never going anywhere.

What’s really started to bother me is how instrumental the contact feels. Recently I was very unwell - and she asked how I was feeling and whether I was off sick from work (I was), but it became clear she was really checking whether I was 'available' to do admin for her. She even offered to bring me soup, but it didn’t feel genuine - it felt like a way to keep me on side so I’d help her with her admin. Turns out, my gut was correct.

At home (which I’ve now stopped visiting because it makes me anxious), she would also do things like pinch me under the table to get my attention or ask me to 'help in the kitchen,' then shut the door and use it as an opportunity to quietly complain about my Dad or extended family. She will write a complaint in her Apple Notes and then present the screen to me as if I’m supposed to look at a photo, when really she wants me to read the words quietly. I find this very uncomfortable and manipulative, and it’s damaged my trust. I do not want to be around her anymore.

My father once asked me to buy a Ring camera on Amazon since I have Prime. That was no problem. When I later asked how it was working, he said, 'Haven’t opened it yet. Will wait for you to come and set it up.' So every visit, I was expected to be 'tech support.' This time I said no, and I haven’t been to see them in just under a year. I didn’t even see them this past Christmas.

There’s also a big imbalance in the wider picture. My brother lives in the family home rent-free and will inherit it. It’s been mortgage-free for over 20 years. He is in his 30s and has the entire top floor of the house. All his cooking, cleaning, and laundry are done for him, and he has never paid a bill in his life. He is 35. He only started working a few months ago, and his income is entirely his own. My sister and her children will inherit a large chunk of money. I’ll receive the smallest share - yet I’m the one expected to do the emotional and practical labour to keep everything running.

Since I’ve reduced contact and stopped going over as much, my life has been noticeably calmer, which has made me realise how stressful that role was. But the guilt is intense when I say no, especially as I know that if I don’t step in, things simply don’t get done. I’m now continuing to step back completely from helping with admin and banking and holding those boundaries firm, but I’m struggling with the feeling that I’m being 'cruel' or abandoning them, even though I know rationally I’m just refusing an unfair role I’ve been pushed into for years.

Has anyone dealt with learned helplessness like this in a parent? How do you hold boundaries when they’re initially respected but then slowly eroded - and how do you manage the guilt when you’re the one everyone relies on by default? I fear that when my Dad goes, I’ll become the full-time caretaker for my Mum - which would be reasonable if she were genuinely incapable, but not if this is simply learned helplessness.

OP posts:
gamerchick · 14/01/2026 12:14

FOG. It can be very ingrained.

You sound a bit like me. One sibling settled, another still at home and me as far away from the toxic mother at all costs. You'll get to that point and it'll tip you over like it did me. NC is the only way to deal with these types of mothers.

Hopingtobeaparent · 14/01/2026 12:16

Enrichetta · 14/01/2026 10:55

No, don’t do this, @fireandice26

stepping right back and making it clear that you are not available or prepared to deal with stuff which is her responsibility to sort out is the way to go. Anything else will just lead to you getting the blame for ‘not helping’ and hurting her feelings.

@fireandice26

I agree with this post.

As tempting as it is to go down the passive aggressive responses route, in the long run it’s not the healthy, or helpful way to go forward. It would likely cause issues with the other relationships you have with immediate family members. Although granted, you may also go/be low contact with Bro as he’s not fallen too far from the mum tree.

Greenlandss · 14/01/2026 13:20

OP, your situation is not unusual.
My dear friend was the lesser sibling to her goldenballs brother always, and it continued into adulthood when he had children.
She too was being asked to do her admin, as Adam was too busy and his job too important, despite her mother providing childcare to his children.
She only heard from her mother when she needed something.

My friend could see the future and applied for a job 2 hours away and never told them until she had already left and taken up her new position.
Her mother called her as she needed something and my friend told her she had moved.
Her mother couldn't believe it.
Total disbelief.
She told her not to worry Adam would help.
She went very low contact and was the happier for it.
She met a lovely man, with a gorgeous family and she largely left her parents to goldenballs.
She had her own family and never regretted her move.

Goldenballs had zero difficulty saying NO he was too busy, and on the rare occasion her mother tried to complain that she rarely saw him or his family once the children no longer needed childcare, she was shut down firmly.
After 45 years my friend had zero interest.

rainonfriday · 14/01/2026 20:22

abracadabra1980 · 14/01/2026 06:25

@rainonfridayI have to disagree to a certain extent and in this case, she has a 'right' to know why it shall be so disproportionate as the family have obviously discussed it prior to anyone's death. She has a right to understand why she is being treated like shit.

She literally doesn't. She has an understandable desire to know why she's being treated like shit. It isn't a right though. Her parents don't owe her an explanation however much she may want one.

I doubt they have any reasonable explanations anyway, so what's the point in hearing a pile of bullshit? Is OP going to feel better being told that men are more important than women? Is her mother going to admit to being a narcissist and telling her she's doing this to her because she can and she likes it? And if she did tell OP that, would it make OP feel better?

I suspect you think that if OP is given the explanation, it'll give her something to argue against and persuade them with, for why their reasons are "wrong". Whereas in reality the leaving of inheritance is subjective based upon a person's beliefs and beliefs are subjective too, so there isn't really a definitive right/wrong about it, there's just what the person leaving the inheritance wants to do. Getting stuck on arguing the toss about it and trying to get them to change their behaviour or beliefs or admit they've been unfair or whatever else outcome is desired, would just be keeping OP stuck in the drama they've created, tangled in their toxic web, when she'd be much better off leaving them to it, not trying to understand them and walking away to get on with her own life in peace.

Her parents have the right to behave like arseholes if they want, so long as they're not doing anything illegal, which they aren't (assuming we're talking about the inheritance). And they have the right to keep their reasons for their behaviour to themselves if they wish. That's how personal autonomy works. And how ownership of possessions works.

I think her parents are totally despicable people, but I'll defend their right to be so, because we all have the right to be whatever we want/are. It's not illegal to be a knobhead and I wholeheartedly wish there were less of them in the world, but it's allowed, them's the rules.

OP has the right to decide she doesn't want to associate with arseholes and cut them out of her life. She can ask them to change, but she doesn't have the right to demand it and kick off if they don't, any more than they have the right to demand she continues in the role they've lined up for her.

This is why there's so much arguing around inheritance, people not actually understanding what their rights are. Expecting an inheritance, thinking they've a right to it or to an explanation they agree with about why they're not getting it, when no such rights exist. And one of the reasons why it's hard to walk away from toxic people, because so many people don't understand they have the right to do that and don't have to keep people in their life if those people are treating them badly, even if they're family.

fireandice26 · 21/01/2026 19:53

Hi all,

Sorry for the slow response. I left the country for a break as I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Back now... and sure enough, they tried again to get me to do their admin/booking flights. I said no.

OP posts:
fireandice26 · 21/01/2026 20:05

Greenlandss · 14/01/2026 13:20

OP, your situation is not unusual.
My dear friend was the lesser sibling to her goldenballs brother always, and it continued into adulthood when he had children.
She too was being asked to do her admin, as Adam was too busy and his job too important, despite her mother providing childcare to his children.
She only heard from her mother when she needed something.

My friend could see the future and applied for a job 2 hours away and never told them until she had already left and taken up her new position.
Her mother called her as she needed something and my friend told her she had moved.
Her mother couldn't believe it.
Total disbelief.
She told her not to worry Adam would help.
She went very low contact and was the happier for it.
She met a lovely man, with a gorgeous family and she largely left her parents to goldenballs.
She had her own family and never regretted her move.

Goldenballs had zero difficulty saying NO he was too busy, and on the rare occasion her mother tried to complain that she rarely saw him or his family once the children no longer needed childcare, she was shut down firmly.
After 45 years my friend had zero interest.

Wow. This is my situation - pretty much down to a T. I'm please to hear your friend is in happier spirits. I'm sure it must have taken a lot/a long time to get there!

OP posts:
gamerchick · 21/01/2026 20:08

Excellent news OP. Keep saying no.

Greenlandss · 21/01/2026 20:12

You are brave, and you can be unavailable and simply don't answer for days.
Leave it longer and longer to answer.
Be busy at work, on a loop.
You can do this.
Mute them.
It gets easier the more you practice it.
My lovely friend accepted that only she could change things for herself and she did.
You can do it too.
Don't answer the phone, send a text after a few days that you are too busy, best you sort it out or ask dad, brother.

Don't give them the power to destroy your mental health, you can do this.

Guttted · 22/01/2026 11:52

Rooting for you @fireandice26- you have sacrifice so much already. Please emotionally detach as a lost cause and actively fill your life with busy plans and reciprocal friendships that will sustain you and stop you ruminating on your parents and the FOG that traps you in your mind and drains you even when you say NO and are not with them. You need to seek out activities and people who will emotionally enrich and fulfil you.

Nantescalling · 01/02/2026 21:19

What a bizarre situation. I really feel for you and am so pleased that you have taken a big step back. I can see what a relief it must be no to be their Admin. Just don't let you Mum drag you back into her net. Your entitled brother should be the one taking responsibility for this kind of thing and even you sister though married, could help with holiday planning?

Bonkers1966 · 01/02/2026 21:23

Become too busy
Phone on silent. Out for the day. You are enabling this behaviour. Just text brother to step up then disappear off to an appointment. Keep doing that. Then do it some more. Do you actually hate yourself?

Otterdrunk · 02/02/2026 16:52

Well done OP for not only realising how you’ve been conditioned to occupy the role in the family as caretaker but further kudos to you for then having the strength to step away & prioritise your own needs more. It is so not easy & the guilt can become overwhelming. I too know difficult it can be to navigate the role of confidante, support & emotional outlet for your mother, which can lead to resentment, an intense sense of protectiveness & also frustration as the person despite all your advice & support will never (or is incapable of) change. Or in her case standing on her own 2 feet.

Some questions - did your mother ever work? Was she allowed to by your DF or did she occupy a traditional stay at home mother role? Does she speak English & did she never develop this fully because of being relegated to the house in the domestic role? Is this common or unusual for other women of her age & possible ethnicity?

Sorry to ask but are her suspicion & fears over your DF because her access to money is actually withheld or controlled by him? Is she actually being abused? I know how difficult a position this puts you in & how it (control, abuse) may not be overt. Have you ever found yourself encouraging her to leave your DD? Apologies for asking but…

It sounds so fustrating & hurtful to see how much her level of dependence on you is so completely enmeshed in her genuine feelings of care for you. That her offering to bring you soup when ill is laced by her own needs & fears of your support no longer being forthcoming from you. I don’t doubt that she loves you but is incapable of separating herself from you as an extension of her. Well done for making the break as it were & putting your needs first.

I think the only thing to do is to continue with the boundaries. I know only too well the pressure that if things aren’t done by me, they won’t get done at all & so it feels quicker to just to do them rather than wait for the shit show to inevitably have to clean up, or sort out, if certain things are not addressed in the here & now. As they both age & their care needs increase this will become even more of a problem & her dependence on you will become more pronounced. All the more reason to reinforce your stance now & to try to maintain it -as in old age it can become suffocating & all encompassing.

Amy chance of setting up a family what’s app & outlining tasks & things that need to be “done” & enlisting your sister & brother to get involved? Or a family chat? Just you siblings? Taking turns? The difficulty you have is that your mother has manipulated you into being her confidante. And I doubt your brother will not give a shit if he is equally dependent & avoidant of any life responsibility.

Sympathies OP I relate a lot to what you’re experiencing. Good luck.

Otterdrunk · 02/02/2026 17:03

I also noticed that my siblings’s marital status meant my own parents viewed them as more adult & impacted how they continued to view me as more like their child still - despite being equally independent & settled with my own partner. For them marriage seemed to equal fully adult & was a helpful boundary for my siblings when it came to filial expectations & responsibility. So not something I’d encourage often - but get married OP & your obligations in your parents’ eyes may change!

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