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Adult daughter stuck as the 'capable one' – Mum's learned helplessness.

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:19

I’m a woman in my late 30s. My parents are both around and still married. I have an older sister (married, with two children) and a younger brother who lives with my parents.

For years, I’ve been the default 'capable one' in the family - not because my siblings aren’t capable, but because it’s the 'role' I’ve been put in. If something needs doing (usually for my Mum) - banking, bills, admin, planning trips - it lands on me. In fairness, my Dad is very capable and handles a lot, but my Mum is very secretive and suspicious and wants me to handle her admin and banking. She feels that if my Dad did it, he would get access to her money (which is money he gave her throughout the marriage).

She presents as very helpless. This isn’t due to any disability or cognitive issue - she’s physically well - but she has never worked and has no interest in learning basic admin because she knows someone (usually me) will step in. She’ll say things like 'I don’t know' or 'What can I do?' or 'My English isn’t good' - often followed by tears.

I have tried setting boundaries. I’ve been clear in the past that I can’t keep doing everything. She did listen for a while, but gradually slipped back into old patterns, asking again and again until I gave in or approaching things indirectly.

A good example is that she regularly asks me to plan holidays for her and my Dad but won’t offer a single preference, idea - or opinion. If I don’t plan it, nothing happens - and then she complains about never going anywhere.

What’s really started to bother me is how instrumental the contact feels. Recently I was very unwell - and she asked how I was feeling and whether I was off sick from work (I was), but it became clear she was really checking whether I was 'available' to do admin for her. She even offered to bring me soup, but it didn’t feel genuine - it felt like a way to keep me on side so I’d help her with her admin. Turns out, my gut was correct.

At home (which I’ve now stopped visiting because it makes me anxious), she would also do things like pinch me under the table to get my attention or ask me to 'help in the kitchen,' then shut the door and use it as an opportunity to quietly complain about my Dad or extended family. She will write a complaint in her Apple Notes and then present the screen to me as if I’m supposed to look at a photo, when really she wants me to read the words quietly. I find this very uncomfortable and manipulative, and it’s damaged my trust. I do not want to be around her anymore.

My father once asked me to buy a Ring camera on Amazon since I have Prime. That was no problem. When I later asked how it was working, he said, 'Haven’t opened it yet. Will wait for you to come and set it up.' So every visit, I was expected to be 'tech support.' This time I said no, and I haven’t been to see them in just under a year. I didn’t even see them this past Christmas.

There’s also a big imbalance in the wider picture. My brother lives in the family home rent-free and will inherit it. It’s been mortgage-free for over 20 years. He is in his 30s and has the entire top floor of the house. All his cooking, cleaning, and laundry are done for him, and he has never paid a bill in his life. He is 35. He only started working a few months ago, and his income is entirely his own. My sister and her children will inherit a large chunk of money. I’ll receive the smallest share - yet I’m the one expected to do the emotional and practical labour to keep everything running.

Since I’ve reduced contact and stopped going over as much, my life has been noticeably calmer, which has made me realise how stressful that role was. But the guilt is intense when I say no, especially as I know that if I don’t step in, things simply don’t get done. I’m now continuing to step back completely from helping with admin and banking and holding those boundaries firm, but I’m struggling with the feeling that I’m being 'cruel' or abandoning them, even though I know rationally I’m just refusing an unfair role I’ve been pushed into for years.

Has anyone dealt with learned helplessness like this in a parent? How do you hold boundaries when they’re initially respected but then slowly eroded - and how do you manage the guilt when you’re the one everyone relies on by default? I fear that when my Dad goes, I’ll become the full-time caretaker for my Mum - which would be reasonable if she were genuinely incapable, but not if this is simply learned helplessness.

OP posts:
H0ldmybeer · 14/01/2026 02:49

NigelFaragesFakeRoarofLaughter · 13/01/2026 01:59

I feel for you OP.

I've found it helpful to remind myself: "If it isn't important enough to X for her to do it for herself, then it certainly isn't important enough to me to do it for her."

Edited

I strongly agree with this. I would keep saying no. As difficult as it might be feel, you're in control of your boundaries.

I would also stop suggesting they ask one of your siblings. Who they ask is not your concern (as difficult as that feels). Your siblings have a choice about whether they respond to being asked or even if they volunteer without being asked.

I found it quite freeing to understand that volunteering or "stepping up" is a choice. Exercise it.

Again, if you saying "no, I can't help with this" means something isn't done. Fine. Your parents can choose not to try themselves or not to ask someone else - that's their choice.

Another way to look at it might be too ask yourself - why are you choosing to try and manage the natural consequences of the choices others make?

Changename12 · 14/01/2026 05:25

OP, your parents are still fairly young. As your mother seems incapable and your brother doesn’t want to step in, most of your mother’s money/ house may end up paying for her care in old age. Don’t give the inheritance any thought.
You are doing the right thing in stepping back and I agree that if you are asked to do things, you should defer to your brother. You may get more support if you post on the elderly parents section. I think they say on there that it is easier to deal with guilt than many years of regret. Good luck.

rickyrickygrimes · 14/01/2026 05:47

You say that your mum blames her poor English at times. Where is she from? Are there cultural reasons for her having such different expectations of her children? Are boys valued above girls, while also being indulged in every way? Are daughters that produce grandchildren valued above those that don’t? And childless (unmarried?) daughters are expected to shoulder the burden of ageing parents because they don’t have much rise of importance going on in their lives? Are elders expected to be revered irrespective of how they actually treat their children?

If your mum has certain cultural expectations of you, then that’s hard to change and all you can do is refuse to fall in line. She is unlikely to change.

DrossofthedUrbervilles · 14/01/2026 06:10

Good luck OP, you're doing really well.
Feeling guilt is better than feeling resentment, as Dr Ramani says.
If having a wobble look at a photo of your brother the prince and remember how he is treated compared to you.
Enjoy YOUR life.

abracadabra1980 · 14/01/2026 06:25

@rainonfridayI have to disagree to a certain extent and in this case, she has a 'right' to know why it shall be so disproportionate as the family have obviously discussed it prior to anyone's death. She has a right to understand why she is being treated like shit.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/01/2026 06:33

Group WhatsApp, and every time something comes up from her you post it on there -‘brother dad needs the ring doorbell set up, they write the manual for idiots so I know you can do it’
‘brother/sister mum needs help with her banking/ the house insurance’
brother mum wants chicken soup ingredients, you’re the one who lives there so she says can you please pick them up.’
‘mum says she is unhappy with your Christmas presents, everyone please try harder next year.’
’brother, sister, mum and dad think someone should organise them a holiday, I’ve organised all of them and I’ve retired from that, so over to you.’
You don’t owe her confidentiality and she will draw on you less if she thinks you’re immediately going to share it. Keep calling your dad a bit though, he sounds not too bad.

NigellaWannabe1 · 14/01/2026 07:27

Like others, I agree you’re completely right to set your boundaries. But I wonder if you’ve explained to your parents that you feel everything falls down to you, and that they treat you very differently from your siblings? I imagine you have but if you haven’t, I think it’s quite important to have that conversation. They need to hear it from you, spelled out to them, how you feel - even if they disagree with you entirely.

It will make them reflect, even if they never admit it. And then any further request from help could be met with “my brother will be delighted to do that for you since he lives at home” or similar.

thepariscrimefiles · 14/01/2026 07:36

fireandice26 · 13/01/2026 11:02

"Honestly would ignore everything to do with inheritance. If they are so unreasonable they cannot identify the very obvious unfairness themselves, nothing you can say or do will change that. Dont let it be used as a tool to make you comply. If you count on not getting anything, youve cut the string."

RE: your quote - which I've pasted above - I actually agree. I'm ok with walking away with nothing (not that anyone is entitled to any inheritance) as long as I can also not be their helper/caretaker. I've done this for 20+ years now. My brother can finally step up, especially given he will be benefitting the most anyway. It's actually bearable (with this past year of distance) with my Dad still being around - my fear is largely centred around my Mum. When he passes, I fear she will up the ante and will see me as her go-to for everything, since he won't be around to do ANY admin at all.

'When he passes, I fear she will up the ante and will see me as her go-to for everything, since he won't be around to do ANY admin at all.'

You can stop this in a couple of ways. You can go completely 'no contact' with your mum (and your siblings if they will try and guilt trip you into helping your mum). You can block her on everything and stop visiting. She has an adult child living with her so she will be fine.

Alternatively, you can go very low contact with her and push back on any demands for you to do stuff for her. Tell her to get your brother to sort stuff out as he lives with her and will be inheriting the house.

Going no contact is probably easier and simpler. If you remain in any sort of contact after the death of your dad, she will up the ante and massively guilt trip you and play the victim while protecting your brother from taking any sort of responsibility to help the mother that has done so much for him.

Orangesandlemons77 · 14/01/2026 07:47

Uhghg · 13/01/2026 20:19

I could have written this myself.

For years I’ve done everything, especially for my mum.

But it weaponised incompetence.

My mum is very good at making you feel very bad.

My final straw was when she begged me to drive an 80 mile round trip after work to help her fill in a job application the day before it was due.
She had known about the job for a month and I kept reminding her to do it before the deadline but she waited until the day before so I couldn’t say no.
I was tired from work so I just cracked on with it and I asked her details and she didn’t reply. I waited and looked for her but she wasn’t in the house - turns out she’d gone to the cinema!
I didn’t finish it and told her to finish it when she gets home - she didn’t and then blamed me for not getting the job.

After that I refuse to do it.
I will help but she has to sit there and do it herself. I will just tell her what to do.
Its amazing how many things she decides doesn’t need doing now she’s got to do something.

I would use the excuse that you want her to learn for herself incase anything happens to you.
You can talk her through it step by step but she needs to be physically doing it herself.

Oh that reminds me of something with an elderly relieve of mine. Refused to have the covid and flu jabs. When the flu got bad, changed their mind but all the slots were full.

Asked me for help with it. I told them they could ring the booking helpline 119 or something. They 'didn't want to' and also, can book things online but wanted me to do it.

So, I went online to the booking site and booked it, but they then gave me the wrong phone numbers so confirmation didn't go through.

Result- I had to chase them up about the appointment etc and it wa stressful as I wasn't sure if it was actually booked or not, if it was not it might have been hard to get another one.

Another thing they can do is if it doesn't work out you can get blamed. They act as if you are responsible.

I've really stepped back now, It's enabling them in a way as they can usually do it themselves, just lack confidence.

There was another time where they didn't want to go to the railway station to get a new rail card but wanted me to do that online but again didn't know their password so that wouldn't work.

As an aside I wonder about early cognitive decline with mine but don't think they would ever get tested.

Orangesandlemons77 · 14/01/2026 07:50

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 23:40

I even got 'she's your mum too' yesterday to...

😆 WTF. Where's the logic? So you're his sister now? Ask him why he's shagging his sister then! 💀 The weirdo.

Seriously though, watch out for him. He's her enabler and your secondary abuser. He's not just carelessly and thoughtlessly throwing you under the bus. You've planted your feet and crossed your arms nope, in response he's gone fetched a battering ram and is trying to shove you under it with all his might. You're right about stress making you ill. That includes the stress of continually shoring up your boundaries against people like your husband. Take care.

Thanks, I will. And I don't take any nonsense from him.

CauliflowerCheese00 · 14/01/2026 08:01

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:51

He often just shrugs his shoulders and grunts 'I don't know' - despite working in the City... weaponised incompetence.

He's cemented his role as the 'useless boy' (again, despite being able to hold down a good job) whereas I'm seen as the 'competent girl' - even though I don't live with them. My sister is seen as the 'settled' one (married with kids) so they couldn't possibly ask her(!) Sarcasm - in case that wasn't obvious. I've since said 'no' to helping them. If they want a trip planned (and they love a full/detailed itinerary) they can ask my brother. They literally scoffed at the thought!

Have you considered your brother is doing this because he can see how agreeing to help is a never ending chore and doesn’t want to get dragged into being their carer?

Take a leaf out of his book. This is the behaviour you need to adopt.

MissDoubleU · 14/01/2026 08:23

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:25

Oh yes. I'm obviously well aware it's her money - we all are. She has a very suspicious nature of everyone (ok - my Dad largely) and keeps her money so close to her chest. Even if it is cash! She didn't even want the banking app on her iPhone because she feared my Dad would be able to access it. Bizarre behaviour.

Given how much your brother is favoured financially do you blame her? There is clearly a serious misogyny issue in her home and she is doing what she can to protect herself, by protecting her finances.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/01/2026 08:25

MissDoubleU · 14/01/2026 08:23

Given how much your brother is favoured financially do you blame her? There is clearly a serious misogyny issue in her home and she is doing what she can to protect herself, by protecting her finances.

The mum is the one doing the favouring here or just as much of it anyway!!

shuffleofftobuffalo · 14/01/2026 08:29

The only thing you can really do is withdraw. Don’t say you can’t do it, just don’t do it. Leave it to them to find someone else to do it, don’t arrange for your brother to do it.

Please bear in mind they will hate you for doing that and it is not an easy option. But if you’ve tried everything else it’s worth considering.

personally the unfair split in the will would be enough to make me withdraw! The reasoning is so disrespectful.

Guttted · 14/01/2026 08:30

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/01/2026 06:33

Group WhatsApp, and every time something comes up from her you post it on there -‘brother dad needs the ring doorbell set up, they write the manual for idiots so I know you can do it’
‘brother/sister mum needs help with her banking/ the house insurance’
brother mum wants chicken soup ingredients, you’re the one who lives there so she says can you please pick them up.’
‘mum says she is unhappy with your Christmas presents, everyone please try harder next year.’
’brother, sister, mum and dad think someone should organise them a holiday, I’ve organised all of them and I’ve retired from that, so over to you.’
You don’t owe her confidentiality and she will draw on you less if she thinks you’re immediately going to share it. Keep calling your dad a bit though, he sounds not too bad.

I seriously wouldn’t up the level of existing enmeshment and triangulation set by your parents amongst your siblings with this behaviour. That’s running right into a fire and a trap where you will be central perpetrator and blamed for the chaos.

Silence, physical distance, emotionally detachment, dignity. You already have covered a lot of ground by not seeing them for a year. Write out all of their expectations and demands and see how over the next few months you can rid yourself of each of these tasks once and for all. A simple ‘No. That doesn’t work for me’ - will do the trick. Rinse and repeat just the once then ignore. No excuses no defending yourself. Don’t get drawn in to the manipulation. I suspect they will set up the siblings or other relatives as ‘flying monkeys’ to berate and lure you back. Ignore them. Also expect a made up drama around health to get you running back. Don’t react to that. Anything sinister she will be in good hands with healthcare - don’t fall for the false alarms.

Physically pivot the focus of your life and turn your back on them all - are you very busy and emotionally fulfilled in the rest of your life? Need to keep pushing to nourish and build that for yourself - so that you are so busy with fun people, activities etc that your mind is distracted from the FOG.

Agapornis · 14/01/2026 10:09

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you might find the South Asian Mumsnetters board helpful. I'm sorry they're treating you as a skivvy. Good on you for not visiting.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/south-asian-mumsnetters

There was a similar post some time in the last 6 months - I think that OP found it helpful to reduce the amount of phone calls, e.g. once a day/week. As in, let them (her) know and then don't pick up if they call more often.

South Asian Mumsnetters | Mumsnet

A forum for South Asian parents to chat and discuss issues.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/south-asian-mumsnetters

HappyMamma2023 · 14/01/2026 10:17

How can your siblings just carry on and expect you to do everything. Just boggles my mind.

Skybunnee · 14/01/2026 10:32

I had a brother who constantly needed help with life, constantly asking .constantly being badly treated by others (in his mind) -for years and years. I finally just stepped back -‘oh,dear’ if he had a problem, gave no help. In the end our relationship was much better, pleasanter all round.

i would say your DM is putting you in the role of someone from her past (the fact she can’t see how good you are). Did she have a domineering older sibling, was there a controlling DGM or Aunty.
Anyway,I suspect you will not get a penny from her. She is too bitter and twisted towards you.
But at only 60 years - it is ridiculous. If you end up doing the caring over the next 20 years -well more fool you.
Im over 70 and don’t plan to make any demands on my adult DC, barring dementia or similar.

Gossipisgood · 14/01/2026 10:47

Only help if you want to & have the time to & minimise what you do. If your Mum asks you about a holiday, have a look at some holidays online & send her links so she can decide for herself & book it herself. If she doesn't get booked up & doesn't get away it's not your fault as you've done what you can. If you do start to visit again if she put pressure on you to go into another room to bitch about others simply say 'no I'm fine here thanks' & Don't go with her. don't let her manipulate you. If you decide not to visit because it's too stressful then don't but ring now & then to check in with them. Keep the conversations light & if your Mum start to moan or complain about your Dad or others simply ignore her & chat about your day, the weather etc & don't engage.

Enrichetta · 14/01/2026 10:55

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/01/2026 06:33

Group WhatsApp, and every time something comes up from her you post it on there -‘brother dad needs the ring doorbell set up, they write the manual for idiots so I know you can do it’
‘brother/sister mum needs help with her banking/ the house insurance’
brother mum wants chicken soup ingredients, you’re the one who lives there so she says can you please pick them up.’
‘mum says she is unhappy with your Christmas presents, everyone please try harder next year.’
’brother, sister, mum and dad think someone should organise them a holiday, I’ve organised all of them and I’ve retired from that, so over to you.’
You don’t owe her confidentiality and she will draw on you less if she thinks you’re immediately going to share it. Keep calling your dad a bit though, he sounds not too bad.

No, don’t do this, @fireandice26

stepping right back and making it clear that you are not available or prepared to deal with stuff which is her responsibility to sort out is the way to go. Anything else will just lead to you getting the blame for ‘not helping’ and hurting her feelings.

Hopingtobeaparent · 14/01/2026 11:52

@fireandice26

Wow. Just wow. (Even though I suspect there is some cultural differences here, it’s still a hard read!)

The last year sounds like it’s been a very insightful experiment. I would seriously consider going full NC with mum. It may be the best gift you ever give yourself!!

Some great responses and advice so far, books and resources, but just to put my vote in to add the weight.

  1. If brother is staying at home and inheriting the house, he inherits the jobs with it. ‘Sorry ask your useless man baby you’ve created son. Repeat. Grey rock style.
  2. Truly reach acceptance that this is a ‘her’ thing, that she really is this manipulative. She’ll never see it this way. You can’t reason with unreasonable people. You can’t choose your family. But you can choose who you have in it/your life.
  3. If you haven’t already had some, have some therapy. Compassion focused may be helpful. Even if you’ve already had some, have some more. It’s a bit like servicing a car…
  4. It is awful situation to have to deal with. Allow yourself some space to mourn the mum you don’t have.

Wishing you all the best!!

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 14/01/2026 11:58

Hufflemuff · 13/01/2026 03:24

Wtf that is no excuse. You surely split inheritance 3 ways. Or even splitting it so the grandkids get a little chunk - so its 5 ways 25, 25, 25, 12, 12 or something?

To give one son an entire house is fucking bat shit and I'd be kicking the fuck off about that! When they die he needs to move out, sell, split it and move the fuck on with his life.

I agree.
My DM is mortgage free and has been talking about leaving the house to me for me and my family.
We, my family and I, DP, 2DC 11 and 7 are in temporary accommodation and are having to rely on social housing for our forever home.

My mum's house is a three bedroom mid-terrace house but sadly needs a shit load of work doing to it and it will cost a fuck lot of money to fix up that it is doubtful that my partner and I will ever afford to get it all done.

My brother has his own rented place in Wales and I don't think he'd ever move back down to London. He has two adult children who live their own lives: one has a mortgage and kids, the other doesn't have any children and is quite detached from the rest of us.

I've told our DM that I won't accept the house and that she should leave it to DB and me and we will split it 50/50.
She says "but it's a 3 bedroom house!", and yes we need a three bedroom property but it's a project really.
She doesn't see all that needs doing.
It's too big for her and the upkeep of it just isn't happening. It's too much for me to tackle by myself and I'm the closest and do her admin etc.
She was born in the house so she wants to die there.

But there's no way I'm not sharing the house. DB may not do much for her but he's still her DS and they have a good relationship so it's fair to split it.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 14/01/2026 11:59

Hopingtobeaparent · 14/01/2026 11:52

@fireandice26

Wow. Just wow. (Even though I suspect there is some cultural differences here, it’s still a hard read!)

The last year sounds like it’s been a very insightful experiment. I would seriously consider going full NC with mum. It may be the best gift you ever give yourself!!

Some great responses and advice so far, books and resources, but just to put my vote in to add the weight.

  1. If brother is staying at home and inheriting the house, he inherits the jobs with it. ‘Sorry ask your useless man baby you’ve created son. Repeat. Grey rock style.
  2. Truly reach acceptance that this is a ‘her’ thing, that she really is this manipulative. She’ll never see it this way. You can’t reason with unreasonable people. You can’t choose your family. But you can choose who you have in it/your life.
  3. If you haven’t already had some, have some therapy. Compassion focused may be helpful. Even if you’ve already had some, have some more. It’s a bit like servicing a car…
  4. It is awful situation to have to deal with. Allow yourself some space to mourn the mum you don’t have.

Wishing you all the best!!

Edited

Absolutely this

TreeDudette · 14/01/2026 12:03

My DP has a parent like this and his only remedy is to keep far away. She still sucks him in to do her admin now and then but mostly his is very low contact. I think you need to read the book "let them". So your mum wants to not have a holiday because she won't organise it - let her. She wants to be upset that you won't drop everything and rush over to sort her banking - let her. It's tough and takes practice but according to DP it gets easier.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 14/01/2026 12:13

CauliflowerCheese00 · 14/01/2026 08:01

Have you considered your brother is doing this because he can see how agreeing to help is a never ending chore and doesn’t want to get dragged into being their carer?

Take a leaf out of his book. This is the behaviour you need to adopt.

Agree with this also.

I don't have much to say what hasn't been said already OP.

It's an absolute piss take.
I do more for my DM than my DB but I have insisted on her leaving the house to us both as she's offered to give it to me because I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing that he got nothing; although today she said that she would maybe take a loan out so he got something...!?!?? Yeah I stopped that one right in its tracks (I hope).

Absolutely cut off completely if you feel to. You're going to need time for yourself to practice self love and healing and like someone else said, possibly grieving as it's still a loss.

Try not to feel guilty, it's false guilt and you are taking care of you and you are the most important person in your life.
You deserve to put yourself first.

If a conversation with your DB should arise about your withdrawal of help, you can tell him that you have had enough of the abuse demands of DM and that as he'll be forever living at the house like a man baby he needs to start doing it. He's more than capable because you're done with it for the foreseeable future.

How will you do it?
Will you tell them all in the group and then leave? Or just stop responding?

Good luck. I think we are all rooting for you x

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