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Adult daughter stuck as the 'capable one' – Mum's learned helplessness.

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:19

I’m a woman in my late 30s. My parents are both around and still married. I have an older sister (married, with two children) and a younger brother who lives with my parents.

For years, I’ve been the default 'capable one' in the family - not because my siblings aren’t capable, but because it’s the 'role' I’ve been put in. If something needs doing (usually for my Mum) - banking, bills, admin, planning trips - it lands on me. In fairness, my Dad is very capable and handles a lot, but my Mum is very secretive and suspicious and wants me to handle her admin and banking. She feels that if my Dad did it, he would get access to her money (which is money he gave her throughout the marriage).

She presents as very helpless. This isn’t due to any disability or cognitive issue - she’s physically well - but she has never worked and has no interest in learning basic admin because she knows someone (usually me) will step in. She’ll say things like 'I don’t know' or 'What can I do?' or 'My English isn’t good' - often followed by tears.

I have tried setting boundaries. I’ve been clear in the past that I can’t keep doing everything. She did listen for a while, but gradually slipped back into old patterns, asking again and again until I gave in or approaching things indirectly.

A good example is that she regularly asks me to plan holidays for her and my Dad but won’t offer a single preference, idea - or opinion. If I don’t plan it, nothing happens - and then she complains about never going anywhere.

What’s really started to bother me is how instrumental the contact feels. Recently I was very unwell - and she asked how I was feeling and whether I was off sick from work (I was), but it became clear she was really checking whether I was 'available' to do admin for her. She even offered to bring me soup, but it didn’t feel genuine - it felt like a way to keep me on side so I’d help her with her admin. Turns out, my gut was correct.

At home (which I’ve now stopped visiting because it makes me anxious), she would also do things like pinch me under the table to get my attention or ask me to 'help in the kitchen,' then shut the door and use it as an opportunity to quietly complain about my Dad or extended family. She will write a complaint in her Apple Notes and then present the screen to me as if I’m supposed to look at a photo, when really she wants me to read the words quietly. I find this very uncomfortable and manipulative, and it’s damaged my trust. I do not want to be around her anymore.

My father once asked me to buy a Ring camera on Amazon since I have Prime. That was no problem. When I later asked how it was working, he said, 'Haven’t opened it yet. Will wait for you to come and set it up.' So every visit, I was expected to be 'tech support.' This time I said no, and I haven’t been to see them in just under a year. I didn’t even see them this past Christmas.

There’s also a big imbalance in the wider picture. My brother lives in the family home rent-free and will inherit it. It’s been mortgage-free for over 20 years. He is in his 30s and has the entire top floor of the house. All his cooking, cleaning, and laundry are done for him, and he has never paid a bill in his life. He is 35. He only started working a few months ago, and his income is entirely his own. My sister and her children will inherit a large chunk of money. I’ll receive the smallest share - yet I’m the one expected to do the emotional and practical labour to keep everything running.

Since I’ve reduced contact and stopped going over as much, my life has been noticeably calmer, which has made me realise how stressful that role was. But the guilt is intense when I say no, especially as I know that if I don’t step in, things simply don’t get done. I’m now continuing to step back completely from helping with admin and banking and holding those boundaries firm, but I’m struggling with the feeling that I’m being 'cruel' or abandoning them, even though I know rationally I’m just refusing an unfair role I’ve been pushed into for years.

Has anyone dealt with learned helplessness like this in a parent? How do you hold boundaries when they’re initially respected but then slowly eroded - and how do you manage the guilt when you’re the one everyone relies on by default? I fear that when my Dad goes, I’ll become the full-time caretaker for my Mum - which would be reasonable if she were genuinely incapable, but not if this is simply learned helplessness.

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BoredZelda · 12/01/2026 19:22

“I’m busy, ask brother to do it”

Problem solved.

One thing though, it is her money. The fact he gave to to her is irrelevant.

TimeForATerf · 12/01/2026 19:23

Why are you getting the smallest share of the inheritance and why have you accepted that, whilst doing the greatest amount if caring?

GreenGodiva · 12/01/2026 19:24

You need to keep on doing exactly what you are doing! Stay away from them and let them offload all of this admin onto their other two adult children. Stay away.

i would also consider getting some therapy to help you shore up your boundraries and keep them firm. And when you have built up some resilience I would start actively telling them WHY you are avoiding them.

HermioneGrangersHair · 12/01/2026 19:25

you haven’t seen them in a year. Are they still asking and calling for your help?

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:25

BoredZelda · 12/01/2026 19:22

“I’m busy, ask brother to do it”

Problem solved.

One thing though, it is her money. The fact he gave to to her is irrelevant.

Oh yes. I'm obviously well aware it's her money - we all are. She has a very suspicious nature of everyone (ok - my Dad largely) and keeps her money so close to her chest. Even if it is cash! She didn't even want the banking app on her iPhone because she feared my Dad would be able to access it. Bizarre behaviour.

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Tigerbalmshark · 12/01/2026 19:26

Your brother literally lives with them - he should be doing ALL of the admin and tech support that they can’t do themselves (though I would expect them to be able to do 99% of it themselves - they must only be in their 60s?)

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:28

HermioneGrangersHair · 12/01/2026 19:25

you haven’t seen them in a year. Are they still asking and calling for your help?

Yep! Still!

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:28

Tigerbalmshark · 12/01/2026 19:26

Your brother literally lives with them - he should be doing ALL of the admin and tech support that they can’t do themselves (though I would expect them to be able to do 99% of it themselves - they must only be in their 60s?)

Sorry, I should have specified ages. He is 73 and she is 63.

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fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:36

HermioneGrangersHair · 12/01/2026 19:25

you haven’t seen them in a year. Are they still asking and calling for your help?

Yep! They still keep in touch. In fairness, when my Dad calls, it's often to talk about work/life - and yes, admin too - but nothing as bad as her.

But the ONLY time I hear from my Mum is because she wants something. When I was very unwell, she asked how I was feeling/asked if I was going to work the following day (I wasn't) and offered to make chicken soup. I didn't respond because I was in/out of sleep due to the illness... so she sent another text asking me to help her with admin. She never really/truly cared about my health - and the chicken soup BS was just a way to get me alone so she could bitch about the family/have me do her admin. It was a hook to see if I was 'available' for her.

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BoredZelda · 12/01/2026 19:39

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:25

Oh yes. I'm obviously well aware it's her money - we all are. She has a very suspicious nature of everyone (ok - my Dad largely) and keeps her money so close to her chest. Even if it is cash! She didn't even want the banking app on her iPhone because she feared my Dad would be able to access it. Bizarre behaviour.

Not bizarre at all. She knows him best. She will have her reasons even if you don’t know what they are.

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:41

BoredZelda · 12/01/2026 19:39

Not bizarre at all. She knows him best. She will have her reasons even if you don’t know what they are.

You sound triggered. By bizarre, I mean more of her behaviour in general. She holds onto everything of 'hers' tightly. She grew up in poverty and is a hoarder - so there's clearly deep seated issues there. It also manifests in terms of money too, obviously - as per the post.

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Hadalifeonce · 12/01/2026 19:47

As pp said, tell them to ask your brother to sort out whatever needs doing.

fireandice26 · 12/01/2026 19:51

Hadalifeonce · 12/01/2026 19:47

As pp said, tell them to ask your brother to sort out whatever needs doing.

He often just shrugs his shoulders and grunts 'I don't know' - despite working in the City... weaponised incompetence.

He's cemented his role as the 'useless boy' (again, despite being able to hold down a good job) whereas I'm seen as the 'competent girl' - even though I don't live with them. My sister is seen as the 'settled' one (married with kids) so they couldn't possibly ask her(!) Sarcasm - in case that wasn't obvious. I've since said 'no' to helping them. If they want a trip planned (and they love a full/detailed itinerary) they can ask my brother. They literally scoffed at the thought!

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Elsvieta · 12/01/2026 21:53

If DB gets their house, he can do their care - now, and after one of them dies. (You can't know which one will go first). Say no, and keep saying it.

Why aren't they sharing inheritance equally?

herefortheclicks · 12/01/2026 22:03

I would ask my mother why she is bitching against my father and my siblings but would not give me more inheritance.

nomas · 12/01/2026 22:09

My brother lives in the family home rent-free and will inherit it. It’s been mortgage-free for over 20 years.

My sister and her children will inherit a large chunk of money. I’ll receive the smallest share

This is awful. They should treat all the same, Have you asked your dad why? I can see why you wouldn’t ask your mum.

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 12/01/2026 22:26

I fear that when my Dad goes, I’ll become the full-time caretaker for my Mum - which would be reasonable if she were genuinely incapable, but not if this is simply learned helplessness.

Nope, because you wont accept it. Brother lives in the home which he will inherit. Just broken record- you will have to ask brother, ask brother, ask brother, etc etc etc.

Look up FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt). Its really helpful to understand.

fireandice26 · 13/01/2026 01:41

Elsvieta · 12/01/2026 21:53

If DB gets their house, he can do their care - now, and after one of them dies. (You can't know which one will go first). Say no, and keep saying it.

Why aren't they sharing inheritance equally?

They aren't sharing equally, because my sister has kids and I don't. Also, my brother doesn't even seem keen on buying his own place - given that he's treated like a King currently and got a great setup at their house.

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NigelFaragesFakeRoarofLaughter · 13/01/2026 01:59

I feel for you OP.

I've found it helpful to remind myself: "If it isn't important enough to X for her to do it for herself, then it certainly isn't important enough to me to do it for her."

Hufflemuff · 13/01/2026 03:24

fireandice26 · 13/01/2026 01:41

They aren't sharing equally, because my sister has kids and I don't. Also, my brother doesn't even seem keen on buying his own place - given that he's treated like a King currently and got a great setup at their house.

Wtf that is no excuse. You surely split inheritance 3 ways. Or even splitting it so the grandkids get a little chunk - so its 5 ways 25, 25, 25, 12, 12 or something?

To give one son an entire house is fucking bat shit and I'd be kicking the fuck off about that! When they die he needs to move out, sell, split it and move the fuck on with his life.

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 04:33

She sounds like a narcissist. The "vulnerable" type that likes to play victim. Dad is the enabler. Golden balls bro is the revered golden child who can do no wrong. I guess you're the scapegoat, and your other sister is keeping her head down understandably.

There's not much you can do except go very very low contact or no contact because as you've discovered, trying to maintain boundaries against a manipulative narcissist is almost impossible and very exhausting trying.

For the guilt, realising you've been trained into the role of helper, fixer, rescuer since the day you were born and so will naturally feel guilty about giving up the role that you've been indoctrinated to believe is yours. It's misplaced though, because that's not actually your purpose in life, that was just lies told to you. So sit with the feeling as long as it takes for it to pass, which it will.

See the guilt as a symptom of your dysfunction and be kind to yourself, getting yourself any professional help you may need to get through it. Don't return to their toxicity just because it feels like normality. It isn't normal at all.

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 04:38

Hufflemuff · 13/01/2026 03:24

Wtf that is no excuse. You surely split inheritance 3 ways. Or even splitting it so the grandkids get a little chunk - so its 5 ways 25, 25, 25, 12, 12 or something?

To give one son an entire house is fucking bat shit and I'd be kicking the fuck off about that! When they die he needs to move out, sell, split it and move the fuck on with his life.

Whilst I agree with you in theory, you're missing the part where the people with the assets (in this case OPs parents) can do whatever the fuck they like with their own possessions. Including leaving unfair inheritances. Kicking off about it is a) pointless and b) makes a person look like a twat - because inheritance isn't a "right" that anyone is owed.

In families like this it's often dangled as a carrot to get one person doing everything forever more in the hope of one day receiving "payment" in the form of an inheritance. At least OP is spared this side of things. In leaving her pretty much sod all, they've made it marginally easier for her to walk away.

rainonfriday · 13/01/2026 04:46

And when you have built up some resilience I would start actively telling them WHY you are avoiding them

What for? Have you tried it, with similar personality types? Did you enjoy being gaslit and berated for having boundaries or being manipulated with tears, all while being insulted about what a horrible person you are (which is what will happen)?

I can't see the point myself. Dignified silence all the way. Let them think what they want - they will anyway, regardless of what they're told. They're never going to accept responsibility for their actions, much less change their behaviour.

Blooperz · 13/01/2026 04:58

Surely you just keep redirecting to the brother when things are not done? No holiday? Oh well ask the brother! Still no holiday? Ask the brother for help. Damn you’ve not had a holiday this year? Oh well, should have asked the brother to help. Basically you need to let things fall apart and stop stepping in. Presently your mum knows you’ll step in and rescue so just stop rescuing. Yes things will be shit for them for a bit but they will figure it out eventually without you. Just let the shit hit the fan

Blooperz · 13/01/2026 05:00

They are only getting away with this because you keep moving your boundaries so just be consistent and immovable.