Military conscription

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There is lots of talk about if ww3 happens then military conscription will happen

This is basically people who sit in an office safely saying we need to either send ourselves or out children to fight and die in horrible conditions

Am I unreasonable to think that anyone who thinks this is a good idea

They should be the first ones to sign up and to lead by example

Any politicians who think this is a good idea, there children should be the first to go

Russia is literally sending troops in wheel chairs and crunches to the front line

So age, disability and gender will not be a problem for anyone who supports any conscription policy's, they can go first

Also the UK will not be invaded, we are not Ukrainian, If we were more like Ukraine I would be more in favour of this as the country itself is under threat

If Germany had of actually invaded Britain would it really have worked and for how long?

First, the Royal Navy was very big , it would have took an awful lot of resources to penetrate through our naval defences.

It would have been a formidable task to defeat Britain by sea.

Secondly, the coast would have been defended by not just the Home Guard, but pretty much anyone who was capable of fighting. Your talking about potentially millions of civilians ready to fight.

Lastly, how would Germany have actually occupied Britain?

We are a very proud nation, we were tough when needed. The population left at home would have probably been 40 million or so ( at a guess).

I dont think the average British civilian would have taken kindly to the German forces invading us.

They simply wouldn’t have allowed it.

German only had an Army so big. How would they have had enough manpower to control us on our own soil?

Not much good though if you have enemy forces in your country. What else can you do but fight them ?

I think all of this could also be said (apart from the bit about the sea) for the other countries Hitler invaded, especially the larger ones - e.g. France, Poland, but he still invaded them, so that makes me think the sea and the Navy/RAF is the main thing that saved us. Our geography really did save us.

We are an island , granted so invading us would be different to countries with borders. The Germans literally rolled into other countries.
But even so our Navy was powerful and I do think our fighting spirit wouldn’t have allowed an easy surrender.

I think a famous saying was if you had the tactics of a German officer , and the fighting spirit of a British soldier , you’d have the perfect Army.

Even if your own side does leave you out of it, the enemy won't.

I think the pp comments on geography are relevant.

You sound all very brave. 👍

For those who would consider immigration, Uruguay is better to immigrate to as immigration requirements are not as stringent as NZ.

Conscription would probably only happen if the UK was being invaded, so I think 'if your own side leaves you out, the enemy won't' is relevant.

Conscription would probably only happen if UK were invaded. Your sons would probably have to fight (and you too). Hopefully we won't be invaded,, it certainly won't be first on Putin's list.

I'll make my decisions based on the likelihood of that happening. At the moment it seems lower, but France, Germany, and the UK army itself are clearly all worried.

Let’s say you get to Uruguay - how would you earn money there? To find a job, you’ll need work experience and probably need to speak Spanish - do you have Spanish skills and work experience?

Your posts worry me a bit, because they don’t seem very connected to reality and you’re up all hours of the night whilst studying for a degree. Please focus on your degree and enjoying university as best as you can.

Thank you . Don't worry, I certainly don't plan to move until I've got established in my job. Fingers crossed the situation has improved by then! I have studied Spanish and am keeping this up.

Exactly. In WW2 not everyone liked Churchill or even the Royal Family , but don’t for themselves and their families.
I don’t think anyone that would sign up would be doing it personally to defend Keir Starmer!

Hitler initially didn’t want to fight Britain. His idea was for Britain to keep out and keep its Empire, whilst Germany and the USSR would take over Europe.

D Day was in 1944 and was the beginning of the end of WW2. Once the Allied forces had broke through, it was only a matter of time for Hitlers plan to crumble.

This was the German General Staff's plan.

Hitler asked them in the mid/late 30s to draw contingencies for invading various parts of Europe, and they concluded that Germany would not be fully rearmed and geared sufficiently to conquer the Soviet Union and Western Europe by 1944 at the very earliest.

Hitler, being Hitler, completely ignored this and continually pressured a succession of CIC's and Chiefs of the General Staff to expedite these timescales, hence why Germany was completely unprepared to actually launch any sort of invasion of the UK in 1940, why they were entirely unprepared to mount an invasion of the Soviet Union in Spring 1941.

The fact they were so successful in Poland and the Low Countries came as a shock to most senior German commanders, because despite all of Hitler's bluster and hot air, they didn't actually expect conquest of these territories to happen as readily or as quickly as it did in reality. This, of course, just fed into Hitler's delusions about the German war machine being totally invincible and irresistible, which in turn led him to place increasingly unrealistic demands and expectations upon it for the remainder of the war.

The invasion of Poland in 1939 was a shock to them as they hadn’t seen it coming.

The UK's geography is an advantage but it's not a guarantee

Its not about being brave, its knowing there's no alternative, and there really isn't - only the rich and well connected will be able to flee if widespread war breaks out in Europe, and at some point even they won't be able to.

Both stand really, boat men & invaders so either felt suitable to use.

I'm sorry but i'd rather not send my beautiful dd to battle to fight for this country. She is mixed race anyway ( persian blood)..
What freedom do we have ? We are all wage slaves thanks to years of Tory austerity.
Pmsl at the left owning the arts etc. The arts have been decimated under austerity and im pretty sure the news is run by the right.

Those patriots should be first in the queue, but they’ll wheedle their way out.

I do wonder if those who have come here illegally would actually stay and fight. I’d say they wouldn’t as they have already ‘fled war torn countries’, allegedly.

Id imagine they’d leave as quickly as a rat up a drain pipe..

What makes them invaders? They haven’t taken over your country, have they?

The Saxons fought the Vikings. (Not having much choice, as they lived here)