Military conscription

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There is lots of talk about if ww3 happens then military conscription will happen

This is basically people who sit in an office safely saying we need to either send ourselves or out children to fight and die in horrible conditions

Am I unreasonable to think that anyone who thinks this is a good idea

They should be the first ones to sign up and to lead by example

Any politicians who think this is a good idea, there children should be the first to go

Russia is literally sending troops in wheel chairs and crunches to the front line

So age, disability and gender will not be a problem for anyone who supports any conscription policy's, they can go first

Also the UK will not be invaded, we are not Ukrainian, If we were more like Ukraine I would be more in favour of this as the country itself is under threat

We can't all leave our countries, and go where?

Hitler's plan was to take over Europe. If Britain hadn't declared war, that would probably have happened if he'd been successful at taking over the other countries.

No we can't..but I think everyone now should look at the situation and assess if they want to and are able to move to a country less likely to be directly involved in a conflict with Russia (and not seriously unstable in other ways). New Zealand is one, Uruguay another.

Thankfully 80% of people in my country don't think that way, and are instead willing to defend my country, otherwise life would be intolerable for all but the lucky few able to immigrate to somewhere like New Zealand.

Is that a serious question?

They leave our veterans to freeze to death on the streets and instead put illegal boat men in hotels & provide food. They deny our veterans housing but yet make illegal boat mens housing a priority. They don't provide aftercare or support to our veterans, as a result many are left to fight their demons alone which often results in addiction problems and many taking their own life. In some parts of the country they even failed to honour our veterans on remembrance Sunday last year finding ridiculous excuses.

Our veterans gave everything to this country and receive nothing in return. The country is a disgrace when it comes to how veterans are treated!!

With all the 'school mum', play date, birthday party angst, they unfriended on social media, left me on read but haven't replied, can you imagine if people were conscripted?

Women weren't in combat in WW2 either.

Women serve in combat now so this is different.

WW2 also had conscientious objectors. My grandmother remembers meeting a 'conchie' when she an evacuee. Yes, they had to do jobs to help.

There would still be that option now they said but you would have to convince a tribunal.

Yes, UK army bosses have been clear that if UK were invaded we would need conscription and drones are not sufficient, ad they clearly are not sufficient in Ukraine or anywhere else.

I agree that our treatment of veterans is shameful (partly because the public don't really seem to care about men's issues as much) but we wouldn't be fighting for our government. We'd be fighting to protect ourselves. It's not like Keir Starmer is going to go and kick their arses for us!

Do know what can happen to people when their country gets invaded? You and your family can't avoid the violence if that happens. It wouldn't just be Keir Starmer getting replaced by someone speaking in a foreign language.

It is no good saying whether or not your loved ones would go. If the worse would happen and the country was going to be invaded by enemy forces, there simply is no choice..

Gosh, that sounds dreadful.
I'm so glad it's not like that in the UK.
What country do you live in?

Hitler's plan was a war with Britain to start around 1944. He intended to have sufficient large warships and U-boats as well as other resources. The colonies would have been grabbed and Britain under nazi control. Whether as a slave state or a less willing ally would depend.

Perhaps just focus on your degree instead of moving to bloody Uruguay to avoid a war that probably won’t happen.

I live in the UK & it's exactly like that here!!

As a daughter, wife and mother of military veterans, in the UK, that is not my experience.

Tommy ten names and co like to pretend it is though, although the "patriots" wouldn't know if it was hanging off their noses.
They just piss me off by how they use and misrepresent veterans.

Why someone ends up on the street even if they were given a home to begin with. Serious mental health breakdown ,someone in the army would be very vulnerable to this if they had been through the trauma of war. There should be more mental health support for them .

I don't disagree with this. It has got much better over the last 15 years but like all services in the NHS funding is an issue.

I disagree with the bull shit the pp posted about service personnel being used to stir hatred. It is untrue. I'm not a fan of the last few tory governments, but even they didn't do that.

Anyone using a group of people to further their agenda can get to fuck, particularly this group of people. You come at my family, you come at me.

But as we now know, Hitler was absolutely delusional. And there was zero chance Operation Sealion would ever work.

The British people weren't aware of this. But the British government were.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing 😀

‘Illegal boat men’? You do have a way with words.

I do, apologies I should have said invaders.

Oh right. How come you didn’t say ‘invaders’ to start with?

I don’t know much about Hitler’s plans to invade Britain, but I always thought he’d planned to invade in 1940 - rather than 1944. I thought the Battle of Britain in 1940 then messed up his plans, because Britain’s air superiority helped them get an upper hand over Germany.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion

If they tried to conscript my sons (I have 6) they would have to pry them from my cold dead fingers.

Fuck them. These presidents/high ups that want to start dick swinging wars and playing boom boom military games, they can fight it out amongst each other, leave the rest of us out of it.